EPTPeople whine and whine about how it's filled with inmature douches and when Riot makes an example of a pro douche then everyone still whines. It's mildly infuriating.
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
People whine and whine about how it's filled with inmature douches and when Riot makes an example of a pro douche then everyone still whines. It's mildly infuriating. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On December 05 2012 08:58 onlywonderboy wrote: I just find it hard to accept this behavior when they want eSports to be taken as seriously as real sports. The NHL and NFL have defined rules, there is not clause anywhere that gives them nearly as much power as the one Riot has. Plus they have defined player unions that aren't controlled by the league. Maybe that's just the nature of eSports versus real sports. Oh well, I guess in the end Riot can do what they want and we can agree or disagree all we want but it won't make a difference. I lost a little respect for Riot, but hopefully nothing as controversial will happen in the future. On the contrary, I feel this is EXACTLY what eSports needs in order to be taken seriously. Riot has pretty much declared that this kind of behavior (which was not an isolated incident, mind you) will not be tolerated, ESPECIALLY if you're someone participating in the Championship Series, and made an example of IWD, the worst of the pros. People get on KESPA's butt about its stringent rules, but I also felt that those rules were necessary (I just had a bit of a problem with the execution of the rules). Does this mean that players will be just robots with no personality? Not at all! There are plenty of ways to be a player with personality without being a huge dick, as IWD was. | ||
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remedium
United States939 Posts
Anyone questioning Riot's "right" to do this is pretty naive. | ||
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
My only question is: if he shows up at LAN events or participates in international online tournaments will they attempt to prohibit this? Because he will obviously just change IP addresses and create a new account but it would be a first time thing if and when Dig qualify for an important LAN tournament and riot officials show up to attempt to disqualify this player. Complete bullshit where the only objective in mind is to scare "toxic" players into being less "toxic" so noobies and immature kids will be more likely to get hooked and spend their pocket money in the Riot store. This shit makes me sick, whatever happened to freedom of speech? I mean there is a goddamn mute feature, why don't they just advertise that? zzzzzzzz | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 05 2012 09:07 jpak wrote: On the contrary, I feel this is EXACTLY what eSports needs in order to be taken seriously. Riot has pretty much declared that this kind of behavior (which was not an isolated incident, mind you) will not be tolerated, ESPECIALLY if you're someone participating in the Championship Series, and made an example of IWD, the worst of the pros. People get on KESPA's butt about its stringent rules, but I also felt that those rules were necessary (I just had a bit of a problem with the execution of the rules). Does this mean that players will be just robots with no personality? Not at all! There are plenty of ways to be a player with personality without being a huge dick, as IWD was. Specifically I meant this raises a larger question about LoL player's rights, and how they are much better player's right are protected in traditional sports where they have a defined set of rules as well as a union to fight for them. Cracking down on professionals raging in solo q isn't the problem, I totally agree they should do that. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On December 05 2012 09:12 MyTHicaL wrote: This is ridiculous and is a direct attack on someone's financial wellbeing; a recognised legal offence in most if not all countries under tort law. My only question is: if he shows up at LAN events or participates in international online tournaments will they attempt to prohibit this? Because he will obviously just change IP addresses and create a new account but it would be a first time thing if and when Dig qualify for an important LAN tournament and riot officials show up to attempt to disqualify this player. Complete bullshit where the only objective in mind is to scare "toxic" players into being less "toxic" so noobies and immature kids will be more likely to get hooked and spend their pocket money in the Riot store. This shit makes me sick, whatever happened to freedom of speech? I mean there is a goddamn mute feature, why don't they just advertise that? zzzzzzzz Freedom of speech doesn't apply to a private entity like Riot or its servers. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On December 05 2012 09:12 MyTHicaL wrote: This is ridiculous and is a direct attack on someone's financial wellbeing; a recognised legal offence in most if not all countries under tort law. My only question is: if he shows up at LAN events or participates in international online tournaments will they attempt to prohibit this? Because he will obviously just change IP addresses and create a new account but it would be a first time thing if and when Dig qualify for an important LAN tournament and riot officials show up to attempt to disqualify this player. Complete bullshit where the only objective in mind is to scare "toxic" players into being less "toxic" so noobies and immature kids will be more likely to get hooked and spend their pocket money in the Riot store. This shit makes me sick, whatever happened to freedom of speech? I mean there is a goddamn mute feature, why don't they just advertise that? zzzzzzzz Any LANs associated with Riot's championship series he wouldn't be allowed to play in. As far as I know that means pretty much every LAN. I guess he could still play in small tournaments like the solomid weekly stuff? He's been dropped from the Dig roster already though. And Riot didn't IP ban him. They banned his main account and his smurfs. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On December 05 2012 09:12 MyTHicaL wrote: This is ridiculous and is a direct attack on someone's financial wellbeing; a recognised legal offence in most if not all countries under tort law. My only question is: if he shows up at LAN events or participates in international online tournaments will they attempt to prohibit this? Because he will obviously just change IP addresses and create a new account but it would be a first time thing if and when Dig qualify for an important LAN tournament and riot officials show up to attempt to disqualify this player. Complete bullshit where the only objective in mind is to scare "toxic" players into being less "toxic" so noobies and immature kids will be more likely to get hooked and spend their pocket money in the Riot store. This shit makes me sick, whatever happened to freedom of speech? I mean there is a goddamn mute feature, why don't they just advertise that? zzzzzzzz First of all, their house, their rules. A TLer, of all people, should know about that! 2nd of all, if he tries to circumvent his ban, Riot will probably just ban him again for longer, just like TL. Dignitas will just have to find a new jungler now (poor Odee, his house burned down, now he has to find a new jungler because IWD couldn't keep his mouth shut in solo que. | ||
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fearpLug
Germany153 Posts
No matter how good you are, you should still be held accountable for your actions taken against others. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On December 05 2012 09:18 Slow Motion wrote: This might be amazing for Dignitas if they can find a decent top laner. Crumbz is a way better jungler than IWD. Recruit Reapered from Korea :D But he's committed to commentating for OGN for the Winter season... | ||
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
On December 05 2012 09:16 jpak wrote: First of all, their house, their rules. A TLer, of all people, should know about that! 2nd of all, if he tries to circumvent his ban, Riot will probably just ban him again for longer, just like TL. Dignitas will just have to find a new jungler now (poor Odee, his house burned down, now he has to find a new jungler because IWD couldn't keep his mouth shut in solo que. I think all of you are confusing his ban for something bigger than it really is. They banned his main account permanently, because it was filled with toxic behavior accounts. The only reason, as clarified by lyte, that all of his smurfs were banned, is because he was displaying the same amount of toxic behavior across all of his accounts. They aren't prohibiting him from making a new account at level 1, to start "fresh." They banned him from their own sponsored championship series, not competitive play from other lans or private events. Although now that he isn't on dignitas he won't be going to those regardless. He already stated that he's making a new account in order to not diminish his mechanics, and that when the year ban is up, he plans on joining a team again to participate in the championship series/other events. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On December 05 2012 08:57 overt wrote: I still stand by the belief that what someone does in pub play shouldn't impact their ability to play competitively. This doesn't make any sense. IWD is a public figure for the game and for Riot in general. The way he acts in solo queue has an impact on what people think of the game, and he should be punished appropriately. Preventing him from participating in tournaments is an appropriate punishment just like it would be appropriate for a Disneyland employee to get fired from Disneyland for going around and telling people Disneyland is a terrible place. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On December 05 2012 09:20 smOOthMayDie wrote: I think all of you are confusing his ban for something bigger than it really is. They banned his main account permanently, because it was filled with toxic behavior accounts. The only reason, as clarified by lyte, that all of his smurfs were banned, is because he was displaying the same amount of toxic behavior across all of his accounts. They aren't prohibiting him from making a new account at level 1, to start "fresh." They banned him from their own sponsored championship series, not competitive play from other lans or private events. Although now that he isn't on dignitas he won't be going to those regardless. He already stated that he's making a new account in order to not diminish his mechanics, and that when the year ban is up, he plans on joining a team again to participate in the championship series/other events. I meant his ban from Championship series events, like the guy I quoted implied. Sorry if that wasn't clear. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On December 05 2012 07:35 3 Lions wrote: At least it will scare other professional players into behaving better in solo-queue Which is a problem, Riot prioritizes solo Q over the careers of players that create the pro scene in the first place. Really odd that people like this development. Solo Q players rejoicing? | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Also glad to know I'm not the only Dignitas fan whose first thought was "maybe they'll get someone who is a better fit." xD | ||
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iinsom
Australia339 Posts
He was warned sufficient times (8 is massive, at work i get 3 verbal warnings, 1 written warning them im out) and this is his job, then he should treat it as such and be a professional about it. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On December 05 2012 09:25 iinsom wrote: I cant see how this is an issue? He was warned sufficient times (8 is massive, at work i get 3 verbal warnings, 1 written warning them im out) and this is his job, then he should treat it as such and be a professional about it. Solo queue isn't his job. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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