EPTIWillDominate banned from Season 3 - Page 20
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
IWD was appropriately punished. If you think a year is too long, then you have an issue with severity, which is ok by me. But IWD losing out on the money from being a pro is a consequence of his own actions. He had ample warning. When does it become his own fault for not heeding Riot when they came at him 9 times with temp bans? @Shake: there are a bunch of pros who have been assholes in the past and many of them have reformed. The main big one is really HotShotgg. Even TSM members like Regi and Dyrus have moments of rage still. I know Dyrus has been temp banned in the past as well. But in the end, pretty much all their behavior have been on an upswing and I highly doubt they've been reported at the rate or frequency that IWD was. You can argue that your personal experience with IWD was not as bad as with TSM but your experience is a small sample and in all, IWD was consider more toxic by a panel of his peers. @VayneAuthority: I meant "no kidding". Please check my profile and zulu's profile for our TL join dates. We're probably two of the oldest TL users in this subforum. bly and I butt heads when it comes to our opinions but I still hold him in esteem. Just because he's a TL vet does not mean I won't keep him in check when he's running his mouth. bly also knows that when I do so, it's not out of malice. So when you make comments about how TL LoL mods are power hungry, you're just embarassing yourself. Apparently you don't have a clue what I have personally contributed in making this subforum what it is today. To everyone else, we can continue talking in circles about this debacle but frankly I think it's run its course. Keep in mind two things: 1) Riot's expectations of their game and its users, 2) IWD's willingness to ignore warnings and bans on 9 different instances. This includes Riot department heads contacting IWD and dig outside of the game. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
 Personally I was very amused when he wrote:"is that really how moderators act now?" coming from someone who has been a member of this forum for not even 2 month it is kinda funny since I doubt he knows mods "used" to act. you watched "whose league is it anyway" earlier, didn't you? What did Odee say regarding this? | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Over all, he supported Riot's decision. I am very happy to hear both Odee and Torch's straight arrow approach to eSports. No room for BS or preferential treatment if you're a pro. As a pro or pro team, set an example for the community. No excuses. Like the 10th time I've said it in this thread, "don't be a douche". | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On December 06 2012 11:21 wei2coolman wrote: Artest beat up a spectator, he didn't even get a year ban on basketball, muchless NBA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_banned_or_suspended_by_the_NBA On November 20, 2004, Artest was suspended indefinitely by NBA commissioner David Stern for his involvement in the Pacers–Pistons brawl. On the following day, the length of his suspension was determined to last for the remainder of the season; a suspension which eventually totaled 86 games (73 regular season and 13 playoff games).[26] He was banned the entire NBA season (73/82 regular season games and all playoff games). The NBA can't ban him from basketball, because the NBA doesn't own the game of basketball, and the NBA doesn't own all the arenas in which basketball is played. That's not true with Riot. I apologize that this is really tangential, but your point is actually wrong, haha. EDIT: Will take the rest of this nitpicking to PMs. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
IWD, can't even practice LoL for a year. That's the point of how severe Riot's punishment is, in comparison. Have the punishment fit the crime. Whatever IWD did, was in no way anywhere close to what Artest did, and yet he got a much heftier punishment. | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Has he been punished before? Like from tournaments and stuff, for this kind of behavior. | ||
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Pooshlmer
United States1001 Posts
On December 06 2012 11:29 wei2coolman wrote: Rest of the season =/= 1 year, and they didn't ban him from playing basketball*, which is also a point. They pretty much left his career intact. IWD, can't even practice LoL for a year. That's the point of how severe Riot's punishment is, in comparison. Have the punishment fit the crime. Whatever IWD did, was in no way anywhere close to what Artest did, and yet he got a much heftier punishment. Yes he can, he's not banned from making a smurf. Good God, get your facts straight. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 06 2012 11:32 Pooshlmer wrote: Yes he can, he's not banned from making a smurf. Good God, get your facts straight. His smurfs will be banned if found out. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Pooshlmer
United States1001 Posts
I don't think they put that 'existing' word randomly. The reason for it was that, surprise surprise, he was being an asshole on them too. I'm sure if he streams on a smurf and acts up they'll be quicker to ban him, but I don't think they will track his IP. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On December 06 2012 11:35 zulu_nation8 wrote: pretty sure he is.. it means he can't play league for a year unless he does so in secret. Neo or anyone else, do we know for sure if he's allowed to make another account? I was under the impression that he would be allowed to, but just not compete for a year. Or, is he completely black listed from LoL for a year? | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On December 06 2012 11:38 Takkara wrote: Neo or anyone else, do we know for sure if he's allowed to make another account? I was under the impression that he would be allowed to, but just not compete for a year. Or, is he completely black listed from LoL for a year? I'm gonna make an assumption and say yes, he is allowed. Especially since he said he's going to practice hard for a year to keep his mechanics in shape. That sounds like he's allowed to make a new account. AFAIK no one has ever been perma-perma banned. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
He'll probably be able to make a new smurf, they'll know it's him but all they'll do is remember his old bans (so if he lands in tribunal again he'll get perma'd the first time). For MLG etc. he will probably get tapped to sub for teams who are missing members, he won't be able to play as much as a regular pro but it won't be like he'll be completely out for a year. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 06 2012 11:34 wei2coolman wrote: His smurfs will be banned if found out. no they won't. cite where you heard that because that's untrue as far as I know. the punishment was that Riot banned all known accounts of IWD. Not "prevent IWD from playing LoL for one year" http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2864421 It specifically says: Penalties: IWillDominate is ineligible to play in the League of Legends Championship Series for a period of one year. This suspension shall commence immediately. In addition, all other existing known accounts used by IWillDominate are permanently banned. Nowhere does it say he's banned from playing for a year. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On December 06 2012 08:59 NeoIllusions wrote: @bly: perhaps "shitting up the subforum" is taking it a step too far but you and I both know how unyieldingly stubborn you can be sometimes and this is one of those times. I'm glad JBright finally got through to you. Riot's main goal is to mold the community to their expectation. To everyone who thinks this is "carebear" mentality, stop being such a jackass. No one is saying all LoL players need to pander each other and compliment every good thing they do. "Don't be a douche" is not asking for too much. IWD was appropriately punished. If you think a year is too long, then you have an issue with severity, which is ok by me. But IWD losing out on the money from being a pro is a consequence of his own actions. He had ample warning. When does it become his own fault for not heeding Riot when they came at him 9 times with temp bans? @Shake: there are a bunch of pros who have been assholes in the past and many of them have reformed. The main big one is really HotShotgg. Even TSM members like Regi and Dyrus have moments of rage still. I know Dyrus has been temp banned in the past as well. But in the end, pretty much all their behavior have been on an upswing and I highly doubt they've been reported at the rate or frequency that IWD was. You can argue that your personal experience with IWD was not as bad as with TSM but your experience is a small sample and in all, IWD was consider more toxic by a panel of his peers. @VayneAuthority: I meant "no kidding". Please check my profile and zulu's profile for our TL join dates. We're probably two of the oldest TL users in this subforum. bly and I butt heads when it comes to our opinions but I still hold him in esteem. Just because he's a TL vet does not mean I won't keep him in check when he's running his mouth. bly also knows that when I do so, it's not out of malice. So when you make comments about how TL LoL mods are power hungry, you're just embarassing yourself. Apparently you don't have a clue what I have personally contributed in making this subforum what it is today. To everyone else, we can continue talking in circles about this debacle but frankly I think it's run its course. Keep in mind two things: 1) Riot's expectations of their game and its users, 2) IWD's willingness to ignore warnings and bans on 9 different instances. This includes Riot department heads contacting IWD and dig outside of the game. I have been posting in this subforum since it existed and have been at TL just as long. | ||
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
On December 06 2012 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote: that is the worst abbreviation ive ever seen if thats true lol. completely changes the tone and meaning What, have you never heard it phrased as "I kid you not"? It's not actually an abbreviation, kid can be used just like kidding, it's only that the in progress "I am kiddding" is more common than the regular "I kid". If he were calling him a kid it would need a comma to be properly interpreted that way, as in "No, kid. It's actually like this, etc etc." It's a misreading on your part, neo said it fine, the -ing form isn't necessary. | ||
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