• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:38
CET 11:38
KST 19:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement4BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains16Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series21
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains GSL CK - New online series BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT
Tourneys
[GSL CK] #2: Team Classic vs. Team Solar [GSL CK] #1: Team Maru vs. Team herO 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 517 Distant Threat The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3039 users

IWillDominate banned from Season 3 - Page 20

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 Next All
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 05 2012 23:58 GMT
#381
Good riddance, this guy was just the epitome of toxic players just by seeing his attitude on other pro player's streams and in soloQ.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 05 2012 23:59 GMT
#382
@bly: perhaps "shitting up the subforum" is taking it a step too far but you and I both know how unyieldingly stubborn you can be sometimes and this is one of those times. I'm glad JBright finally got through to you. Riot's main goal is to mold the community to their expectation. To everyone who thinks this is "carebear" mentality, stop being such a jackass. No one is saying all LoL players need to pander each other and compliment every good thing they do. "Don't be a douche" is not asking for too much.
IWD was appropriately punished. If you think a year is too long, then you have an issue with severity, which is ok by me. But IWD losing out on the money from being a pro is a consequence of his own actions. He had ample warning. When does it become his own fault for not heeding Riot when they came at him 9 times with temp bans?

@Shake: there are a bunch of pros who have been assholes in the past and many of them have reformed. The main big one is really HotShotgg. Even TSM members like Regi and Dyrus have moments of rage still. I know Dyrus has been temp banned in the past as well. But in the end, pretty much all their behavior have been on an upswing and I highly doubt they've been reported at the rate or frequency that IWD was. You can argue that your personal experience with IWD was not as bad as with TSM but your experience is a small sample and in all, IWD was consider more toxic by a panel of his peers.

@VayneAuthority: I meant "no kidding". Please check my profile and zulu's profile for our TL join dates. We're probably two of the oldest TL users in this subforum. bly and I butt heads when it comes to our opinions but I still hold him in esteem. Just because he's a TL vet does not mean I won't keep him in check when he's running his mouth. bly also knows that when I do so, it's not out of malice.
So when you make comments about how TL LoL mods are power hungry, you're just embarassing yourself. Apparently you don't have a clue what I have personally contributed in making this subforum what it is today.

To everyone else, we can continue talking in circles about this debacle but frankly I think it's run its course. Keep in mind two things: 1) Riot's expectations of their game and its users, 2) IWD's willingness to ignore warnings and bans on 9 different instances. This includes Riot department heads contacting IWD and dig outside of the game.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 06 2012 00:04 GMT
#383
Good Post Neo

Personally I was very amused when he wrote:"is that really how moderators act now?" coming from someone who has been a member of this forum for not even 2 month it is kinda funny since I doubt he knows mods "used" to act.

you watched "whose league is it anyway" earlier, didn't you? What did Odee say regarding this?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 00:19:50
December 06 2012 00:19 GMT
#384
Odee said that dig didn't know about the perm ban until recently (don't know how recent exactly) but they were informed of all of IWD's past transgression, many of which was during his coL/pre-dig days. But dig realize those warnings carried over when IWD joined dig.

Over all, he supported Riot's decision. I am very happy to hear both Odee and Torch's straight arrow approach to eSports. No room for BS or preferential treatment if you're a pro. As a pro or pro team, set an example for the community. No excuses.

Like the 10th time I've said it in this thread, "don't be a douche".
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 02:21:43
December 06 2012 02:21 GMT
#385
Artest beat up a spectator, he didn't even get a year ban on basketball, muchless NBA.
liftlift > tsm
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 02:30:40
December 06 2012 02:25 GMT
#386
On December 06 2012 11:21 wei2coolman wrote:
Artest beat up a spectator, he didn't even get a year ban on basketball, muchless NBA.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_banned_or_suspended_by_the_NBA
On November 20, 2004, Artest was suspended indefinitely by NBA commissioner David Stern for his involvement in the Pacers–Pistons brawl. On the following day, the length of his suspension was determined to last for the remainder of the season; a suspension which eventually totaled 86 games (73 regular season and 13 playoff games).[26]


He was banned the entire NBA season (73/82 regular season games and all playoff games). The NBA can't ban him from basketball, because the NBA doesn't own the game of basketball, and the NBA doesn't own all the arenas in which basketball is played. That's not true with Riot.

I apologize that this is really tangential, but your point is actually wrong, haha.

EDIT: Will take the rest of this nitpicking to PMs.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 06 2012 02:29 GMT
#387
Rest of the season =/= 1 year, and they didn't ban him from playing basketball*, which is also a point. They pretty much left his career intact.

IWD, can't even practice LoL for a year. That's the point of how severe Riot's punishment is, in comparison.

Have the punishment fit the crime. Whatever IWD did, was in no way anywhere close to what Artest did, and yet he got a much heftier punishment.
liftlift > tsm
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 02:32:17
December 06 2012 02:29 GMT
#388
IWD deserved to be punished. But I do think the punishment may not exactly fit the crime.

Has he been punished before? Like from tournaments and stuff, for this kind of behavior.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
December 06 2012 02:32 GMT
#389
On December 06 2012 11:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Rest of the season =/= 1 year, and they didn't ban him from playing basketball*, which is also a point. They pretty much left his career intact.

IWD, can't even practice LoL for a year. That's the point of how severe Riot's punishment is, in comparison.

Have the punishment fit the crime. Whatever IWD did, was in no way anywhere close to what Artest did, and yet he got a much heftier punishment.


Yes he can, he's not banned from making a smurf. Good God, get your facts straight.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 06 2012 02:34 GMT
#390
On December 06 2012 11:32 Pooshlmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 11:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Rest of the season =/= 1 year, and they didn't ban him from playing basketball*, which is also a point. They pretty much left his career intact.

IWD, can't even practice LoL for a year. That's the point of how severe Riot's punishment is, in comparison.

Have the punishment fit the crime. Whatever IWD did, was in no way anywhere close to what Artest did, and yet he got a much heftier punishment.


Yes he can, he's not banned from making a smurf. Good God, get your facts straight.

His smurfs will be banned if found out.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 06 2012 02:35 GMT
#391
pretty sure he is.. it means he can't play league for a year unless he does so in secret.
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 02:40:41
December 06 2012 02:38 GMT
#392
"In addition, all other existing known accounts used by IWillDominate are permanently banned."

I don't think they put that 'existing' word randomly. The reason for it was that, surprise surprise, he was being an asshole on them too.

I'm sure if he streams on a smurf and acts up they'll be quicker to ban him, but I don't think they will track his IP.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
December 06 2012 02:38 GMT
#393
On December 06 2012 11:35 zulu_nation8 wrote:
pretty sure he is.. it means he can't play league for a year unless he does so in secret.


Neo or anyone else, do we know for sure if he's allowed to make another account? I was under the impression that he would be allowed to, but just not compete for a year. Or, is he completely black listed from LoL for a year?
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 02:43:54
December 06 2012 02:43 GMT
#394
On December 06 2012 11:38 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 11:35 zulu_nation8 wrote:
pretty sure he is.. it means he can't play league for a year unless he does so in secret.


Neo or anyone else, do we know for sure if he's allowed to make another account? I was under the impression that he would be allowed to, but just not compete for a year. Or, is he completely black listed from LoL for a year?

I'm gonna make an assumption and say yes, he is allowed. Especially since he said he's going to practice hard for a year to keep his mechanics in shape. That sounds like he's allowed to make a new account.

AFAIK no one has ever been perma-perma banned.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 06 2012 02:46 GMT
#395
well even if they IP track him he can play with a proxy, etc, but it would be against Riot's will, so basically he's blacklisted for a year, can't imagine the punishment meaning anything different. Obviously no team is gonna pick up someone who can't practice, and assuming he can play on the tourney client or something, no team is gonna pick up someone who can only play MLG or something.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 06 2012 02:51 GMT
#396
Teams aren't going to pick him up on their main rosters.
He'll probably be able to make a new smurf, they'll know it's him but all they'll do is remember his old bans (so if he lands in tribunal again he'll get perma'd the first time).

For MLG etc. he will probably get tapped to sub for teams who are missing members, he won't be able to play as much as a regular pro but it won't be like he'll be completely out for a year.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 05:06:10
December 06 2012 05:05 GMT
#397
It sounds like he got what he deserved. What comes around goes around. I imagine he will just level up a new smurf though.....
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 05:20:04
December 06 2012 05:18 GMT
#398
On December 06 2012 11:34 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 11:32 Pooshlmer wrote:
On December 06 2012 11:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Rest of the season =/= 1 year, and they didn't ban him from playing basketball*, which is also a point. They pretty much left his career intact.

IWD, can't even practice LoL for a year. That's the point of how severe Riot's punishment is, in comparison.

Have the punishment fit the crime. Whatever IWD did, was in no way anywhere close to what Artest did, and yet he got a much heftier punishment.


Yes he can, he's not banned from making a smurf. Good God, get your facts straight.

His smurfs will be banned if found out.

no they won't. cite where you heard that because that's untrue as far as I know. the punishment was that Riot banned all known accounts of IWD. Not "prevent IWD from playing LoL for one year"

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2864421

It specifically says:
Penalties:
IWillDominate is ineligible to play in the League of Legends Championship Series for a period of one year. This suspension shall commence immediately.

In addition, all other existing known accounts used by IWillDominate are permanently banned.

Nowhere does it say he's banned from playing for a year.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 06 2012 05:46 GMT
#399
On December 06 2012 08:59 NeoIllusions wrote:
@bly: perhaps "shitting up the subforum" is taking it a step too far but you and I both know how unyieldingly stubborn you can be sometimes and this is one of those times. I'm glad JBright finally got through to you. Riot's main goal is to mold the community to their expectation. To everyone who thinks this is "carebear" mentality, stop being such a jackass. No one is saying all LoL players need to pander each other and compliment every good thing they do. "Don't be a douche" is not asking for too much.
IWD was appropriately punished. If you think a year is too long, then you have an issue with severity, which is ok by me. But IWD losing out on the money from being a pro is a consequence of his own actions. He had ample warning. When does it become his own fault for not heeding Riot when they came at him 9 times with temp bans?

@Shake: there are a bunch of pros who have been assholes in the past and many of them have reformed. The main big one is really HotShotgg. Even TSM members like Regi and Dyrus have moments of rage still. I know Dyrus has been temp banned in the past as well. But in the end, pretty much all their behavior have been on an upswing and I highly doubt they've been reported at the rate or frequency that IWD was. You can argue that your personal experience with IWD was not as bad as with TSM but your experience is a small sample and in all, IWD was consider more toxic by a panel of his peers.

@VayneAuthority: I meant "no kidding". Please check my profile and zulu's profile for our TL join dates. We're probably two of the oldest TL users in this subforum. bly and I butt heads when it comes to our opinions but I still hold him in esteem. Just because he's a TL vet does not mean I won't keep him in check when he's running his mouth. bly also knows that when I do so, it's not out of malice.
So when you make comments about how TL LoL mods are power hungry, you're just embarassing yourself. Apparently you don't have a clue what I have personally contributed in making this subforum what it is today.

To everyone else, we can continue talking in circles about this debacle but frankly I think it's run its course. Keep in mind two things: 1) Riot's expectations of their game and its users, 2) IWD's willingness to ignore warnings and bans on 9 different instances. This includes Riot department heads contacting IWD and dig outside of the game.


I have been posting in this subforum since it existed and have been at TL just as long.
I come in for the scraps
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
December 06 2012 05:55 GMT
#400
On December 06 2012 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 05:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On December 06 2012 05:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 06 2012 05:30 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On December 06 2012 05:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 06 2012 04:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
bly, stop shitting the subforum. No kid.
This has nothing to do with mob mentality.

Edit: I've played with IWD in 3s a bunch of times and he was inflammatory towards my team, constantly spamming "how did you guys get to this elo" in a slightly more profane way.
Edit2: Listening to SotL, will comment here in a moment. Let's just say people are reporting you by the handful, bly. Sometimes you just don't know when to let go.



haha "no kid"

is that really how moderators act now? riot is not the only one power hungry I see

People have a difference in opinion, your opinion is not any more correct than his.


As Neo says in a later post, it's because he was getting a ton of reports about bly's posts, not because of his own personal opinions. Also, TL moderators have always acted with that kind of tone, and it isn't a bad thing. Just look at the Ban List. That was also a warning, not an outright forum-level-action, so power-hungry is not the word you're looking for.


I just find it ironic that he is talking about IWD being toxic and then using that to address some one, which is just as condescending.


"No kid" = "no kidding." As in, he was giving a serious warning. I feel like you're saying that Neo was calling him a kid. He wasn't.


that is the worst abbreviation ive ever seen if thats true lol. completely changes the tone and meaning


What, have you never heard it phrased as "I kid you not"? It's not actually an abbreviation, kid can be used just like kidding, it's only that the in progress "I am kiddding" is more common than the regular "I kid". If he were calling him a kid it would need a comma to be properly interpreted that way, as in "No, kid. It's actually like this, etc etc." It's a misreading on your part, neo said it fine, the -ing form isn't necessary.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
08:00
GSL CK #2: Team Classic vs Team Solar
herO (Afreeca)210
CranKy Ducklings SOOP60
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
herO (Afreeca) 210
Rex 27
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 5122
Sea 3085
GuemChi 1034
Hm[arnc] 458
Killer 447
Larva 411
BeSt 313
Pusan 206
Soma 203
Mini 193
[ Show more ]
Stork 183
Light 178
EffOrt 102
hero 98
ZerO 90
PianO 69
sorry 66
Rush 66
NotJumperer 58
Snow 57
Aegong 49
sSak 39
Mind 30
IntoTheRainbow 25
ggaemo 17
soO 15
Barracks 15
Noble 15
Purpose 11
scan(afreeca) 10
GoRush 10
SilentControl 8
Bale 8
Shinee 7
Terrorterran 7
Britney 1
Dota 2
XaKoH 516
XcaliburYe163
NeuroSwarm118
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss868
zeus526
allub163
edward78
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King175
Other Games
singsing1534
ceh9661
Pyrionflax194
Fuzer 159
crisheroes103
ZerO(Twitch)11
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream572
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 69
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt501
• HappyZerGling148
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
1h 22m
Monday Night Weeklies
6h 22m
WardiTV Team League
1d 1h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 13h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-15
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.