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On October 23 2012 10:26 Phrost wrote: Is it odd to anyone else that all of the champions that change into animals are female in their human form? (nidalee, shyvana, elise)
champion designers are obviously doing this to imply women are actually two faced creatures. Lawsuit against Riot incoming.
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What do you guys think of Nunu support? Apparently Maknoon said Nunu is not played in Korea?
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On October 23 2012 11:15 dukethegold wrote: What do you guys think of Nunu support? Apparently Maknoon said Nunu is not played in Korea? I thought it was generally only good with like vayne/kog(or where its most played atleast)
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On October 23 2012 11:15 dukethegold wrote: What do you guys think of Nunu support? Apparently Maknoon said Nunu is not played in Korea?
Nunu is A fantastic support for hyper carries like kog and vayne spiking their dps fairly early. Korean adc meta doesn't really factor in these hyper carries because they play a much more aggressive style that would end the game before kog came into his own.
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Nunu/Caitlyn is also amazing.
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On October 23 2012 11:21 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 11:15 dukethegold wrote: What do you guys think of Nunu support? Apparently Maknoon said Nunu is not played in Korea? Nunu is A fantastic support for hyper carries like kog and vayne spiking their dps fairly early. Korean adc meta doesn't really factor in these hyper carries because they play a much more aggressive style that would end the game before kog came into his own.
Don't you need to pick a support better at protecting their carries with carries who need to just not lose lane? I would think Janna goes better with Vayne than Nunu does, same for Kog.
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On October 23 2012 10:26 Phrost wrote: Is it odd to anyone else that all of the champions that change into animals are female in their human form? (nidalee, shyvana, elise)
cause it provides more of a contrast between their two forms imo. They go from pretty lady to horrible monster instead of just like buff guy to horrible monster.
it's still dumb imo, but so are lots of things about league's general character design so w/e
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On October 23 2012 11:15 dukethegold wrote: What do you guys think of Nunu support? Apparently Maknoon said Nunu is not played in Korea? For what it is worth I like running Draven while my friend goes Nunu support. With Bloodboil and W I get plenty of attack speed so I just build IE and Bloodthirster before Phantom Dancer. Probably not viable at higher levels of play, but it is a lot of fun dealing Tons of Damage
Snowball + Stand Aside is also really nice in lane to punish your opponent for over extending, especially if they are someone squishy like Sona at early levels.
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I think its safe to say Nunu is good with any ad carry
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On October 23 2012 11:29 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 11:21 Sermokala wrote:On October 23 2012 11:15 dukethegold wrote: What do you guys think of Nunu support? Apparently Maknoon said Nunu is not played in Korea? Nunu is A fantastic support for hyper carries like kog and vayne spiking their dps fairly early. Korean adc meta doesn't really factor in these hyper carries because they play a much more aggressive style that would end the game before kog came into his own. Don't you need to pick a support better at protecting their carries with carries who need to just not lose lane? I would think Janna goes better with Vayne than Nunu does, same for Kog.
Nunu is more of an investment to the later game with bloodboil than janna, and he's not bad at protecting either, snowball is a ton of slow and its easy to run away with BB.
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On October 23 2012 10:23 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 10:07 Chrispy wrote:On October 23 2012 09:04 HazMat wrote:On October 23 2012 08:54 wussleeQ wrote: not having blue really isn't that bad though if you can conserve your mana well enough in general. I mean at the highest levels it probably makes a difference but not where i'm at lol. whenever the jungler takes blue i'm just usually like whatever and just concentrate on not getting poked. Well blue buff on mids is a lot more about wave control. If the enemy mid has blue and you don't then if they're smart they are going to push your lane like crazy forcing you to miss CS and wraiths and miss opportunities to gank/countergank. It can be huge, but not on Lee Sin lol. That's just Froggen's ego getting to him. Shake #1 froggen hater now that he's popularized Lee Sin mid. Btw I'm GP vs Lee sin mid now. FML I h8 Froggen too. Nah I like him but I do believe Skarner, Hecarim, and Amumu should have priority over the 2nd blue but Froggen thinks he deserves it on heroes like Lee.
Do you think this applies to all mids? I've been telling people so and I get 2nd blues with my school team. I might not play enough mid but I can't imagine if this wasn't better for the team especially 2nd blue gives those junglers lv6 90% o the time if they haven't reached it before.
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Lol, on Froggens stream: Fiddle support Ezreal ad Karthus solo bot Amumu jungle Froggen mid with Lux
Froggen: "this game will be ... Interesting"
Well, their teamfights schould at least be short...
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On October 23 2012 11:37 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 10:23 HazMat wrote:On October 23 2012 10:07 Chrispy wrote:On October 23 2012 09:04 HazMat wrote:On October 23 2012 08:54 wussleeQ wrote: not having blue really isn't that bad though if you can conserve your mana well enough in general. I mean at the highest levels it probably makes a difference but not where i'm at lol. whenever the jungler takes blue i'm just usually like whatever and just concentrate on not getting poked. Well blue buff on mids is a lot more about wave control. If the enemy mid has blue and you don't then if they're smart they are going to push your lane like crazy forcing you to miss CS and wraiths and miss opportunities to gank/countergank. It can be huge, but not on Lee Sin lol. That's just Froggen's ego getting to him. Shake #1 froggen hater now that he's popularized Lee Sin mid. Btw I'm GP vs Lee sin mid now. FML I h8 Froggen too. Nah I like him but I do believe Skarner, Hecarim, and Amumu should have priority over the 2nd blue but Froggen thinks he deserves it on heroes like Lee. Do you think this applies to all mids? I've been telling people so and I get 2nd blues with my school team. I might not play enough mid but I can't imagine if this wasn't better for the team especially 2nd blue gives those junglers lv6 90% o the time if they haven't reached it before. Practically speaking, it's just awkward to pick blue-dependent junglers and mids together. Asian teams tried to avoid pairing Skarner+Karthus or the like together, while CLG.Eu just willingly pick themselves into it.
If you're not playing something awkward like Skarner+Karthus, blue priority should be more or less straightforward.
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On October 23 2012 11:43 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 11:37 zulu_nation8 wrote:On October 23 2012 10:23 HazMat wrote:On October 23 2012 10:07 Chrispy wrote:On October 23 2012 09:04 HazMat wrote:On October 23 2012 08:54 wussleeQ wrote: not having blue really isn't that bad though if you can conserve your mana well enough in general. I mean at the highest levels it probably makes a difference but not where i'm at lol. whenever the jungler takes blue i'm just usually like whatever and just concentrate on not getting poked. Well blue buff on mids is a lot more about wave control. If the enemy mid has blue and you don't then if they're smart they are going to push your lane like crazy forcing you to miss CS and wraiths and miss opportunities to gank/countergank. It can be huge, but not on Lee Sin lol. That's just Froggen's ego getting to him. Shake #1 froggen hater now that he's popularized Lee Sin mid. Btw I'm GP vs Lee sin mid now. FML I h8 Froggen too. Nah I like him but I do believe Skarner, Hecarim, and Amumu should have priority over the 2nd blue but Froggen thinks he deserves it on heroes like Lee. Do you think this applies to all mids? I've been telling people so and I get 2nd blues with my school team. I might not play enough mid but I can't imagine if this wasn't better for the team especially 2nd blue gives those junglers lv6 90% o the time if they haven't reached it before. Practically speaking, it's just awkward to pick blue-dependent junglers and mids together. Asian teams tried to avoid pairing Skarner+Karthus or the like together, while CLG.Eu just willingly pick themselves into it.
This is true but there are some mids that are less blue dependent than others, and there are some combos like karthus/amumu that are too good to pass up. For example I think anyone who rushes chalice can do without a 2nd blue unless it's anivia.
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On October 23 2012 10:23 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 10:07 Chrispy wrote:On October 23 2012 09:04 HazMat wrote:On October 23 2012 08:54 wussleeQ wrote: not having blue really isn't that bad though if you can conserve your mana well enough in general. I mean at the highest levels it probably makes a difference but not where i'm at lol. whenever the jungler takes blue i'm just usually like whatever and just concentrate on not getting poked. Well blue buff on mids is a lot more about wave control. If the enemy mid has blue and you don't then if they're smart they are going to push your lane like crazy forcing you to miss CS and wraiths and miss opportunities to gank/countergank. It can be huge, but not on Lee Sin lol. That's just Froggen's ego getting to him. Shake #1 froggen hater now that he's popularized Lee Sin mid. Btw I'm GP vs Lee sin mid now. FML I h8 Froggen too. Nah I like him but I do believe Skarner, Hecarim, and Amumu should have priority over the 2nd blue but Froggen thinks he deserves it on heroes like Lee.
Oh if it's Lee Sin mid then I think the jungler should have the blue =\
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On October 23 2012 11:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 11:43 TheYango wrote:On October 23 2012 11:37 zulu_nation8 wrote:On October 23 2012 10:23 HazMat wrote:On October 23 2012 10:07 Chrispy wrote:On October 23 2012 09:04 HazMat wrote:On October 23 2012 08:54 wussleeQ wrote: not having blue really isn't that bad though if you can conserve your mana well enough in general. I mean at the highest levels it probably makes a difference but not where i'm at lol. whenever the jungler takes blue i'm just usually like whatever and just concentrate on not getting poked. Well blue buff on mids is a lot more about wave control. If the enemy mid has blue and you don't then if they're smart they are going to push your lane like crazy forcing you to miss CS and wraiths and miss opportunities to gank/countergank. It can be huge, but not on Lee Sin lol. That's just Froggen's ego getting to him. Shake #1 froggen hater now that he's popularized Lee Sin mid. Btw I'm GP vs Lee sin mid now. FML I h8 Froggen too. Nah I like him but I do believe Skarner, Hecarim, and Amumu should have priority over the 2nd blue but Froggen thinks he deserves it on heroes like Lee. Do you think this applies to all mids? I've been telling people so and I get 2nd blues with my school team. I might not play enough mid but I can't imagine if this wasn't better for the team especially 2nd blue gives those junglers lv6 90% o the time if they haven't reached it before. Practically speaking, it's just awkward to pick blue-dependent junglers and mids together. Asian teams tried to avoid pairing Skarner+Karthus or the like together, while CLG.Eu just willingly pick themselves into it. This is true but there are some mids that are less blue dependent than others, and there are some combos like karthus/amumu that are too good to pass up. For example I think anyone who rushes chalice can do without a 2nd blue unless it's anivia. Actually this probably explains the Orianna picks in WCS, could afford to lose blues, but not be too royally screwed by it.
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ShakeDrizzle on WingsofDeathX's team. Let's see how this goes....
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If you want to see nunu support turn on naht's stream to see him nunu/cait with DoubleLift
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On October 23 2012 11:37 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 10:23 HazMat wrote:On October 23 2012 10:07 Chrispy wrote:On October 23 2012 09:04 HazMat wrote:On October 23 2012 08:54 wussleeQ wrote: not having blue really isn't that bad though if you can conserve your mana well enough in general. I mean at the highest levels it probably makes a difference but not where i'm at lol. whenever the jungler takes blue i'm just usually like whatever and just concentrate on not getting poked. Well blue buff on mids is a lot more about wave control. If the enemy mid has blue and you don't then if they're smart they are going to push your lane like crazy forcing you to miss CS and wraiths and miss opportunities to gank/countergank. It can be huge, but not on Lee Sin lol. That's just Froggen's ego getting to him. Shake #1 froggen hater now that he's popularized Lee Sin mid. Btw I'm GP vs Lee sin mid now. FML I h8 Froggen too. Nah I like him but I do believe Skarner, Hecarim, and Amumu should have priority over the 2nd blue but Froggen thinks he deserves it on heroes like Lee. Do you think this applies to all mids? I've been telling people so and I get 2nd blues with my school team. I might not play enough mid but I can't imagine if this wasn't better for the team especially 2nd blue gives those junglers lv6 90% o the time if they haven't reached it before. It doesn't apply to most mids but it also doesn't apply to most junglers for me, if that makes sense. Like you said, it has a lot to do with hitting 6 early on junglers that have game changing ults, such as Skarn, Hec and Amumu but it also helps that they need the buff. I'd probably give up blue to Anivia no matter what I'm jungling, which is probably where Froggen got this idea from. Yango is right in the idea that you should pick non-blue dependent mids with blue dependent junglers, which I have been saying for a long time now.
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