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remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
October 22 2012 23:13 GMT
#2281
On October 23 2012 07:52 Praetorial wrote:
Have you ever had deja, deja, deja, deja, deja vu? The headphone goes on the bottom...

Good lord these Twitch Samsung commercials are so annoying and badly written.


Oh, don't think they are solely the province of Twitch. Watching football yesterday was brutal.
Stay positive!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 22 2012 23:14 GMT
#2282
On October 23 2012 08:07 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 07:49 misirlou wrote:
anyone saw a karthus jungle trolling and flaming frogen really hard on stream?
On October 23 2012 07:05 Alaric wrote:
The hardest part of playing Talon isn't in the actual playing, but in getting mid without being first pick or finding somebody else who has him to swap in drafts, or clicking fast enough in blinds.


when i was sub 1.1k (lol) I would FP him anw and still the other mid picked some ap to get pwned. lost very few games (1 every 10) to counters

Froggen gets ridiculously butthurt when junglers take bluebuff or tax his lane, so it's not really hard to troll him.


which mid doesnt?
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 23:14:45
October 22 2012 23:14 GMT
#2283
On October 23 2012 08:07 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 07:49 misirlou wrote:
anyone saw a karthus jungle trolling and flaming frogen really hard on stream?
On October 23 2012 07:05 Alaric wrote:
The hardest part of playing Talon isn't in the actual playing, but in getting mid without being first pick or finding somebody else who has him to swap in drafts, or clicking fast enough in blinds.


when i was sub 1.1k (lol) I would FP him anw and still the other mid picked some ap to get pwned. lost very few games (1 every 10) to counters

Froggen gets ridiculously butthurt when junglers take bluebuff or tax his lane, so it's not really hard to troll him.


Generally he gets annoyed if people take his blue buff, even by accident but the karthus picked karthus jungle AFTER he picked swain mid and saved smite for EVERY blue buff just so that froggen never got it unless he killed someone with blue. The karthus also went to his lane to turn on defile and Q all the creeps and leave. He was intentionally trying to annoy froggen
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 23:23:17
October 22 2012 23:22 GMT
#2284
On October 23 2012 07:44 kongoline wrote:
do u guys think after dfg nerf diana still will be good or im better buying something like karthus,orianna,zyra for mid?


Without seeing the itemization and jungle changes, it's really hard to call.

On October 23 2012 08:14 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 08:07 SagaZ wrote:
On October 23 2012 07:49 misirlou wrote:
anyone saw a karthus jungle trolling and flaming frogen really hard on stream?
On October 23 2012 07:05 Alaric wrote:
The hardest part of playing Talon isn't in the actual playing, but in getting mid without being first pick or finding somebody else who has him to swap in drafts, or clicking fast enough in blinds.


when i was sub 1.1k (lol) I would FP him anw and still the other mid picked some ap to get pwned. lost very few games (1 every 10) to counters

Froggen gets ridiculously butthurt when junglers take bluebuff or tax his lane, so it's not really hard to troll him.


which mid doesnt?


This. Playing without blue buff against a lane opponent that does is a nightmare.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 22 2012 23:35 GMT
#2285
Nah, when they have blue, they always get cocky and think they're hot shit.
Makes it easier to kill them.

#1 tactics
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
October 22 2012 23:37 GMT
#2286
On October 23 2012 08:07 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 07:49 misirlou wrote:
anyone saw a karthus jungle trolling and flaming frogen really hard on stream?
On October 23 2012 07:05 Alaric wrote:
The hardest part of playing Talon isn't in the actual playing, but in getting mid without being first pick or finding somebody else who has him to swap in drafts, or clicking fast enough in blinds.


when i was sub 1.1k (lol) I would FP him anw and still the other mid picked some ap to get pwned. lost very few games (1 every 10) to counters

Froggen gets ridiculously butthurt when junglers take bluebuff or tax his lane, so it's not really hard to troll him.


Yeah actually I think its definitely more than the average mid. I was jungling Skarner in a ranked game where Froggen was Lee Sin mid - we were massively ahead, every lane winning, all dragons, everyone happy and getting along - but as soon as my bladed armor accidentally takes the bluff buff from him its like a switch goes off and he just completely flips out. Keep in mind that at no point before or after this 1 buff did our team ever even come close to losing (he killed their mid for their blue buff minutes later) and it just seems like a bit of an overreaction.

Frustrated me a bit at the time but I can understand the basic idea of where he's coming from. It actually made me rethink the importance of blue buff when I play mid - I make an extra effort to get it / steal it now.
Writerman what
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 23:49:49
October 22 2012 23:48 GMT
#2287
On October 23 2012 08:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
Nah, when they have blue, they always get cocky and think they're hot shit.
Makes it easier to kill them.

#1 tactics


i laned as ziggs without a single blue against a malz who got every blue, because rengar 'needed it more'

....


edit: at above, Lee Sin doesn't really need the cdr though, although I guess Froggen loves his kick nukes with 100000 arpen
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
October 22 2012 23:54 GMT
#2288
not having blue really isn't that bad though if you can conserve your mana well enough in general. I mean at the highest levels it probably makes a difference but not where i'm at lol. whenever the jungler takes blue i'm just usually like whatever and just concentrate on not getting poked.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
October 23 2012 00:00 GMT
#2289
Apparently Gragas top is good vs. Khazix.

Disclaimer: Gragas needs to be played by Froggen. 2-0 in 6 minutes.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
October 23 2012 00:01 GMT
#2290
On October 23 2012 08:54 wussleeQ wrote:
not having blue really isn't that bad though if you can conserve your mana well enough in general. I mean at the highest levels it probably makes a difference but not where i'm at lol. whenever the jungler takes blue i'm just usually like whatever and just concentrate on not getting poked.

Depends on champion. Anivia without the 2nd blue is a neutered Anivia. Morgana can just continue farming no problem (limit yourself to one soil per wave). Pretty sure Cassioepia needs her blue too.

Just play Vladimir if you do not want to give a fuck about blue buff, I guess.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 23 2012 00:04 GMT
#2291
On October 23 2012 08:54 wussleeQ wrote:
not having blue really isn't that bad though if you can conserve your mana well enough in general. I mean at the highest levels it probably makes a difference but not where i'm at lol. whenever the jungler takes blue i'm just usually like whatever and just concentrate on not getting poked.

Well blue buff on mids is a lot more about wave control. If the enemy mid has blue and you don't then if they're smart they are going to push your lane like crazy forcing you to miss CS and wraiths and miss opportunities to gank/countergank. It can be huge, but not on Lee Sin lol. That's just Froggen's ego getting to him.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 23 2012 00:12 GMT
#2292
Well blue buff does give energy regen + CDR. LS with blue buff is pretty beast, especially when it's in the hands of Froggen l0l.

But yeah, nowadays it's just a natural thing to get really butthurt if you don't get blue. Sometimes it really can be detrimental, but other times it's just complaining for the sake of complaining.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
October 23 2012 00:24 GMT
#2293
Tank Gragas really looks strong, with his AD steroid he can go full tank and still do ze damages. Or rather, Froggen can.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 23 2012 00:31 GMT
#2294
Tank Gragas is miles better in lategame.
AP is better early/mid.

tho you get flamed if you do tank in soloQ.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 23 2012 01:00 GMT
#2295
I find that if you're doing really well in mid, letting the jungler have blue can be pretty damn helpful, since the cdr is usually great for them. Of course, it also depends heavily on the champion you're using. I find that whenever I play Ahri, blue buff is helpful but it's something I can live without even if the enemy has blue buff.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 23 2012 01:07 GMT
#2296
On October 23 2012 09:04 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 08:54 wussleeQ wrote:
not having blue really isn't that bad though if you can conserve your mana well enough in general. I mean at the highest levels it probably makes a difference but not where i'm at lol. whenever the jungler takes blue i'm just usually like whatever and just concentrate on not getting poked.

Well blue buff on mids is a lot more about wave control. If the enemy mid has blue and you don't then if they're smart they are going to push your lane like crazy forcing you to miss CS and wraiths and miss opportunities to gank/countergank. It can be huge, but not on Lee Sin lol. That's just Froggen's ego getting to him.


Shake #1 froggen hater now that he's popularized Lee Sin mid.

Btw I'm GP vs Lee sin mid now. FML I h8 Froggen too.
Retvrn to Forvms
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 23 2012 01:23 GMT
#2297
On October 23 2012 10:07 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:04 HazMat wrote:
On October 23 2012 08:54 wussleeQ wrote:
not having blue really isn't that bad though if you can conserve your mana well enough in general. I mean at the highest levels it probably makes a difference but not where i'm at lol. whenever the jungler takes blue i'm just usually like whatever and just concentrate on not getting poked.

Well blue buff on mids is a lot more about wave control. If the enemy mid has blue and you don't then if they're smart they are going to push your lane like crazy forcing you to miss CS and wraiths and miss opportunities to gank/countergank. It can be huge, but not on Lee Sin lol. That's just Froggen's ego getting to him.


Shake #1 froggen hater now that he's popularized Lee Sin mid.

Btw I'm GP vs Lee sin mid now. FML I h8 Froggen too.

Nah I like him but I do believe Skarner, Hecarim, and Amumu should have priority over the 2nd blue but Froggen thinks he deserves it on heroes like Lee.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 23 2012 01:26 GMT
#2298
Is it odd to anyone else that all of the champions that change into animals are female in their human form? (nidalee, shyvana, elise)
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
October 23 2012 01:27 GMT
#2299
On October 23 2012 08:22 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 07:44 kongoline wrote:
do u guys think after dfg nerf diana still will be good or im better buying something like karthus,orianna,zyra for mid?


Without seeing the itemization and jungle changes, it's really hard to call.

I'm kinda hoping its the starting to steering her to Tanky Aura AP.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
October 23 2012 01:43 GMT
#2300
Yo there was this one amazing LiquidParty game a while ago where I was tank gragas top and someone (can't remember who) was playing Veigar. Everyone except brave Veigar did awful in lane phase and we were behind ~10 kills, but we managed to stay in it until we got to the point where everyone was fat enough to live the 2 seconds it took Veig to blow up the entire enemy team. It was intenserad.
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