Ugh. Just played against Mordekaiser Vladimir Soraka Sivir Amumu. Too much pushing, too much sustain, shit was so boring, and we had no burst nor survivability ("invading" Shyvana gives fb and red to Vlad who proceeds to kill dring start WW at level 2, and then WW ends lane with 80 farm to 150+ Vlad, was downhill from there).
Janna is so hard to play in lane too. Q_Q I can see how you "don't lose" by playing defensive and shielding premptively so your AD can farm, but how can you win lane?
OMG Rune pages are now 3150IP each? God I need to start grinding some IP.... I have been needing runepages for a while now.
On September 14 2012 06:09 Alaric wrote: Ugh. Just played against Mordekaiser Vladimir Soraka Sivir Amumu. Too much pushing, too much sustain, shit was so boring, and we had no burst nor survivability ("invading" Shyvana gives fb and red to Vlad who proceeds to kill dring start WW at level 2, and then WW ends lane with 80 farm to 150+ Vlad, was downhill from there).
Janna is so hard to play in lane too. Q_Q I can see how you "don't lose" by playing defensive and shielding premptively so your AD can farm, but how can you win lane?
You won't be winning in kills unless they overcommit. It is possible to zone them once you are ahead in CS though.
Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.
I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote: Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.
I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.
Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote: Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.
I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.
Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.
I'd tend to agree about her being easier, but I think Janna can be better overall if your team is about getting kills over being tanky and survival. She's really brutal in a lock-down comp.
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote: Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.
I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.
Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.
I'd tend to agree about her being easier, but I think Janna can be better overall if your team is about getting kills over being tanky and survival. She's really brutal in a lock-down comp.
It's just that a spell that costs no mana, does damage, and have no ammo on a champion that has mana is very odd.
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote: Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.
I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.
Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.
I'd tend to agree about her being easier, but I think Janna can be better overall if your team is about getting kills over being tanky and survival. She's really brutal in a lock-down comp.
It's just that a spell that costs no mana, does damage, and have no ammo on a champion that has mana is very odd.
Oh no, it's bullshit, I agree. Was worse when she could use it on herself and huehue mid.
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote: Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.
I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.
Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.
I'd tend to agree about her being easier, but I think Janna can be better overall if your team is about getting kills over being tanky and survival. She's really brutal in a lock-down comp.
It's just that a spell that costs no mana, does damage, and have no ammo on a champion that has mana is very odd.
Oh no, it's bullshit, I agree. Was worse when she could use it on herself and huehue mid.
Right. When the spell gave herself mana, I can understand E having no cost. But honestly, this has to stop now.
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote: Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.
I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.
Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.
I'd tend to agree about her being easier, but I think Janna can be better overall if your team is about getting kills over being tanky and survival. She's really brutal in a lock-down comp.
It's just that a spell that costs no mana, does damage, and have no ammo on a champion that has mana is very odd.
Oh no, it's bullshit, I agree. Was worse when she could use it on herself and huehue mid.
idk why people kept asking for a manaless support when they already had one huehuehue
Sorakas heal is really mana intensive; in any case, don't blame soraka, she has plenty of weaknesses. You're playing a support with probably the worst laning phase or at least pretty bad pre 6 so you shouldn't complain because any other support does the same thing.
Janna vs Soraka is largely up to the skill of your AD carry. The only way you can win that lane is to successfully burst someone twice in a short span of time (Get a bunch of free shots, janna shield AD buffed Q on most ad carries etc), bait a heal and then all-in once you have cooldowns again but before soraka gets her heal back. If you can initiate while the heal is down you can sometimes get a kill. The other way is to harass them both down and force soraka to heal herself or negate her ability to infuse harass safely.
Somewhat unrelated but my janna has the highest KDA out of my 3 main supports (sona/raka/janna) but the lowest winrate (55% to sorakas 61% and sona's 64%)
i feel like support is my best role, yet according to this snazzy new lolking thing my support is 1-6 in the past 7 days.
the strange thing is that i don't remember ever playing support poorly. i don't recall losing any lane or getting caught and throwing the game, and i have a high kda ratio...
On September 14 2012 06:58 kainzero wrote: i feel like support is my best role, yet according to this snazzy new lolking thing my support is 1-6 in the past 7 days.
the strange thing is that i don't remember ever playing support poorly. i don't recall losing any lane or getting caught and throwing the game, and i have a high kda ratio...
According to lolking's new thing I'm a terrible jungle and top. 0-4 overall in those roles. I'm rather far in the positive range for mid/support though, 7-3 overall. Gotta lock mid/support more I guess, carry myself up. Assuming I can play 3 games a day, in 40 days 120 games, I need to win 70-50 to hit platinum. GLHF to me I guess =(.
sorakas only good matchup left is vs janna, so thats all she really has going for her. Definitely a frustrating support matchup if your jungler is clueless.