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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 21:07:29
September 13 2012 21:07 GMT
#441
On September 14 2012 06:02 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 05:58 kainzero wrote:
so speaking of sona...

she has these two gigantic

hands.

seriously if you look at her in-game model it's pretty nasty looking.


That's not the issue. The issue is that the community has always had a special place for Lux. Just look at the shitstorm over renaming her ultimate.


No, the community just loves pointing out flaws in art. Lux isn't the only champion who has caused stirs with her splash art.

I mean, who can forget Riven?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 13 2012 21:09 GMT
#442
Ugh. Just played against Mordekaiser Vladimir Soraka Sivir Amumu. Too much pushing, too much sustain, shit was so boring, and we had no burst nor survivability ("invading" Shyvana gives fb and red to Vlad who proceeds to kill dring start WW at level 2, and then WW ends lane with 80 farm to 150+ Vlad, was downhill from there).

Janna is so hard to play in lane too. Q_Q I can see how you "don't lose" by playing defensive and shielding premptively so your AD can farm, but how can you win lane?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 21:12:43
September 13 2012 21:10 GMT
#443
OMG Rune pages are now 3150IP each? God I need to start grinding some IP.... I have been needing runepages for a while now.


On September 14 2012 06:09 Alaric wrote:
Ugh. Just played against Mordekaiser Vladimir Soraka Sivir Amumu. Too much pushing, too much sustain, shit was so boring, and we had no burst nor survivability ("invading" Shyvana gives fb and red to Vlad who proceeds to kill dring start WW at level 2, and then WW ends lane with 80 farm to 150+ Vlad, was downhill from there).

Janna is so hard to play in lane too. Q_Q I can see how you "don't lose" by playing defensive and shielding premptively so your AD can farm, but how can you win lane?


You won't be winning in kills unless they overcommit. It is possible to zone them once you are ahead in CS though.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 13 2012 21:13 GMT
#444
Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.

I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 13 2012 21:17 GMT
#445
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote:
Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.

I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.


Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 21:20:20
September 13 2012 21:18 GMT
#446
random janna zephyrs+shields can help your AD carry poke, too.

against soraka the best you can do is to wear both of them down so that she has to choose who to heal.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#447
On September 14 2012 05:52 Ferrose wrote:

He sounds so much more chill without the monotone
Also I'm glad he's honest about being a big troll
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#448
On September 14 2012 06:17 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote:
Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.

I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.


Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.

I'd tend to agree about her being easier, but I think Janna can be better overall if your team is about getting kills over being tanky and survival. She's really brutal in a lock-down comp.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 13 2012 21:32 GMT
#449
On September 14 2012 06:21 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 06:17 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote:
Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.

I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.


Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.

I'd tend to agree about her being easier, but I think Janna can be better overall if your team is about getting kills over being tanky and survival. She's really brutal in a lock-down comp.


It's just that a spell that costs no mana, does damage, and have no ammo on a champion that has mana is very odd.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 13 2012 21:33 GMT
#450
On September 14 2012 06:32 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 06:21 Requizen wrote:
On September 14 2012 06:17 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote:
Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.

I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.


Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.

I'd tend to agree about her being easier, but I think Janna can be better overall if your team is about getting kills over being tanky and survival. She's really brutal in a lock-down comp.


It's just that a spell that costs no mana, does damage, and have no ammo on a champion that has mana is very odd.

Oh no, it's bullshit, I agree. Was worse when she could use it on herself and huehue mid.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 13 2012 21:37 GMT
#451
On September 14 2012 06:33 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 06:32 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 14 2012 06:21 Requizen wrote:
On September 14 2012 06:17 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote:
Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.

I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.


Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.

I'd tend to agree about her being easier, but I think Janna can be better overall if your team is about getting kills over being tanky and survival. She's really brutal in a lock-down comp.


It's just that a spell that costs no mana, does damage, and have no ammo on a champion that has mana is very odd.

Oh no, it's bullshit, I agree. Was worse when she could use it on herself and huehue mid.


Right. When the spell gave herself mana, I can understand E having no cost. But honestly, this has to stop now.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 13 2012 21:43 GMT
#452
On September 14 2012 06:33 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 06:32 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 14 2012 06:21 Requizen wrote:
On September 14 2012 06:17 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 14 2012 06:13 Requizen wrote:
Should have built MR and focus Sivir, so much AP damage hue.

I win lane as Janna by being balls-to-the-wall annoying. Against any melee support, auto their shit constantly and harass with Q + W. Against Soraka or Lulu, it's a bit trickier, but you can set up kills better than them as well (imo). You have sick peeling and good aggressiveness, just make sure your AD takes advantage of it.


Janna vs Soraka is absolutely brutal. You time your shields perfectly trying to avoid as much damage as possible while managing your mana while Soraka press W and solves all the problems. I really think Soraka's E needs to cost mana.

I'd tend to agree about her being easier, but I think Janna can be better overall if your team is about getting kills over being tanky and survival. She's really brutal in a lock-down comp.


It's just that a spell that costs no mana, does damage, and have no ammo on a champion that has mana is very odd.

Oh no, it's bullshit, I agree. Was worse when she could use it on herself and huehue mid.

idk why people kept asking for a manaless support when they already had one huehuehue
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23464 Posts
September 13 2012 21:44 GMT
#453
Sorakas heal is really mana intensive; in any case, don't blame soraka, she has plenty of weaknesses. You're playing a support with probably the worst laning phase or at least pretty bad pre 6 so you shouldn't complain because any other support does the same thing.
aka Teutonica
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 21:51:11
September 13 2012 21:50 GMT
#454
Janna vs Soraka is largely up to the skill of your AD carry. The only way you can win that lane is to successfully burst someone twice in a short span of time (Get a bunch of free shots, janna shield AD buffed Q on most ad carries etc), bait a heal and then all-in once you have cooldowns again but before soraka gets her heal back. If you can initiate while the heal is down you can sometimes get a kill. The other way is to harass them both down and force soraka to heal herself or negate her ability to infuse harass safely.

Somewhat unrelated but my janna has the highest KDA out of my 3 main supports (sona/raka/janna) but the lowest winrate (55% to sorakas 61% and sona's 64%)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 13 2012 21:56 GMT
#455
Janna best KS support imoimo, slowing burds always murder, never not murder.
It's your boy Guzma!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 13 2012 21:58 GMT
#456
i feel like support is my best role, yet according to this snazzy new lolking thing my support is 1-6 in the past 7 days.

the strange thing is that i don't remember ever playing support poorly. i don't recall losing any lane or getting caught and throwing the game, and i have a high kda ratio...
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 13 2012 22:01 GMT
#457
On September 14 2012 06:58 kainzero wrote:
i feel like support is my best role, yet according to this snazzy new lolking thing my support is 1-6 in the past 7 days.

the strange thing is that i don't remember ever playing support poorly. i don't recall losing any lane or getting caught and throwing the game, and i have a high kda ratio...


My jungle was 2-7 during the last week, lol.

My top lane not that much better, 4-7.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
September 13 2012 22:10 GMT
#458
According to lolking's new thing I'm a terrible jungle and top. 0-4 overall in those roles. I'm rather far in the positive range for mid/support though, 7-3 overall. Gotta lock mid/support more I guess, carry myself up. Assuming I can play 3 games a day, in 40 days 120 games, I need to win 70-50 to hit platinum. GLHF to me I guess =(.
JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
September 13 2012 22:10 GMT
#459
omg why is morgana so constipated....
when did mf become a geisha....
LoL: Soles | forever 1600
Glaceau
Profile Joined February 2012
Wales333 Posts
September 13 2012 22:11 GMT
#460
sorakas only good matchup left is vs janna, so thats all she really has going for her. Definitely a frustrating support matchup if your jungler is clueless.
Cmon, swing it
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