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On August 20 2012 06:43 1godless wrote:
On the topic of consulting TL, I am looking for a new jungler. I play mundo udyr alistar lee sin and lately amumu malphite. Who should I add? I have naut even though I don't play him that much. So basically who should I add? Maokai, Sej, Shy, Riven, Diana, Hec, Jarvan. Skarner or Volibear? It seems like a long list but I kinda want to be slightly hipsterish and add a slightly un orthodox jungler. Suggestions? Comments on their various strengths? thanks guys
Jax man, jungle jax stomps face
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Nunu is a sick jungle. Great mana sustain with his passive, don't even need a pot forever long because of his q, sick slow, blood boil OP in bot lane, go for him!
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Jungle Jax steals your wraiths then Leapstrikes on your mid laner pushed to his turret and kills him before running in the sunset.
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On August 20 2012 09:04 Dalguno wrote:
Nunu is a sick jungle. Great mana sustain with his passive, don't even need a pot forever long because of his q, sick slow, blood boil OP in bot lane, go for him!
I always think Nunu jungle is garbage. His clear is actually pretty slow because he is single target, his sustain can be good at the cost of his ganks, his ganks are poor, and the only thing he is good at is counterjungling. However, if you can't really gank much and exert map presence, it's difficult to counterjungle safely.
Nunu should be played on the top lane.
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On August 20 2012 09:06 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 09:04 Dalguno wrote:
Nunu is a sick jungle. Great mana sustain with his passive, don't even need a pot forever long because of his q, sick slow, blood boil OP in bot lane, go for him! I always think Nunu jungle is garbage. His clear is actually pretty slow because he is single target, his sustain can be good at the cost of his ganks, his ganks are poor, and the only thing he is good at is counterjungling. However, if you can't really gank much and exert map presence, it's difficult to counterjungle safely. Nunu should be played on the top lane.
At my ELO, Nunu is a sick jungle, I should say 
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OMG I finally figured out where I heard the name Darius for the first time!
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It was bugging me since he got announced.
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On August 20 2012 09:06 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 09:04 Dalguno wrote:
Nunu is a sick jungle. Great mana sustain with his passive, don't even need a pot forever long because of his q, sick slow, blood boil OP in bot lane, go for him! I always think Nunu jungle is garbage. His clear is actually pretty slow because he is single target, his sustain can be good at the cost of his ganks, his ganks are poor, and the only thing he is good at is counterjungling. However, if you can't really gank much and exert map presence, it's difficult to counterjungle safely. Nunu should be played on the top lane.
His ganks actually pretty good Imo. Run real fast, they run real slow, he really good at diving with Ult and the potential to Q a minion.
Auto kill on top lane errytime, same with Bot lane if you can get there without it being warded, although that is easier said than done (go oracles?).
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Do you guys think that Rengar will be an instabuy for most people? He will be for me, definitely, but I want to know how common he will be for awhile.
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On August 20 2012 09:25 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 09:06 Sufficiency wrote:On August 20 2012 09:04 Dalguno wrote:
Nunu is a sick jungle. Great mana sustain with his passive, don't even need a pot forever long because of his q, sick slow, blood boil OP in bot lane, go for him! I always think Nunu jungle is garbage. His clear is actually pretty slow because he is single target, his sustain can be good at the cost of his ganks, his ganks are poor, and the only thing he is good at is counterjungling. However, if you can't really gank much and exert map presence, it's difficult to counterjungle safely. Nunu should be played on the top lane. His ganks actually pretty good Imo. Run real fast, they run real slow, he really good at diving with Ult and the potential to Q a minion. Auto kill on top lane errytime, same with Bot lane if you can get there without it being warded, although that is easier said than done (go oracles?).
Nah, his ganks are pretty bad compared to pretty much every other jungler. He brings hardly any damage after his snowball early on. He is also very far from a kill on top lane "errytime". Anyone with an escape will just shrug his ganks off and might have to blow flash.
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On August 20 2012 09:43 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Do you guys think that Rengar will be an instabuy for most people? He will be for me, definitely, but I want to know how common he will be for awhile.
If his first blood top lane is as easy and guaranteed as it looks in that one YouTube video then I'm sure he'll be seen in lots of games. I don't play top lane though so I don't see myself buying him ever. If he's strong outside of lane phase then it'll be annoying to have someone that can just leap from bushes like that be fotm.
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On August 20 2012 09:46 Perplex wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 09:25 iCanada wrote:On August 20 2012 09:06 Sufficiency wrote:On August 20 2012 09:04 Dalguno wrote:
Nunu is a sick jungle. Great mana sustain with his passive, don't even need a pot forever long because of his q, sick slow, blood boil OP in bot lane, go for him! I always think Nunu jungle is garbage. His clear is actually pretty slow because he is single target, his sustain can be good at the cost of his ganks, his ganks are poor, and the only thing he is good at is counterjungling. However, if you can't really gank much and exert map presence, it's difficult to counterjungle safely. Nunu should be played on the top lane. His ganks actually pretty good Imo. Run real fast, they run real slow, he really good at diving with Ult and the potential to Q a minion. Auto kill on top lane errytime, same with Bot lane if you can get there without it being warded, although that is easier said than done (go oracles?). Nah, his ganks are pretty bad compared to pretty much every other jungler. He brings hardly any damage after his snowball early on. He is also very far from a kill on top lane "errytime". Anyone with an escape will just shrug his ganks off and might have to blow flash.
How so? Snowball is actually a better slow than Cripple. I mean, obviously his ganks aren't as good as say a LeeSin or a Meowkai, but they are far from bad.
EDIT: Look, Saintvicious has three assists kills on three ganks bottom lane with Nunu jungles against TSM. Not saying that Nunu's ganks OP or really good, but they definitely at or above average.
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I'll just be over here collecting free wins as jungle Nunu. Don't mind me.
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On August 20 2012 09:43 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Do you guys think that Rengar will be an instabuy for most people? He will be for me, definitely, but I want to know how common he will be for awhile.
I'm definitely going to be buying him immediately as well. I see him being very popular at first, not sure about past the first few days.
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Or you could be top nunu and have lee gank for you
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On August 20 2012 10:04 101toss wrote:
Or you could be top nunu and have lee gank for you
You could be a lee sin top and have a nunu gank for you.
I don't get your point.
o.O
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On August 20 2012 06:43 1godless wrote:
On the topic of consulting TL, I am looking for a new jungler. I play mundo udyr alistar lee sin and lately amumu malphite. Who should I add? I have naut even though I don't play him that much. So basically who should I add? Maokai, Sej, Shy, Riven, Diana, Hec, Jarvan. Skarner or Volibear? It seems like a long list but I kinda want to be slightly hipsterish and add a slightly un orthodox jungler. Suggestions? Comments on their various strengths? thanks guys
Maokawaii and Nunu each have their own semi-unique twists that can let you mix up your standard jungle playstyle.
If Maokai isn't invaded, he can get a v.v.fast L3 with a sapling stack at wraiths/blue/wolves/wraiths/gank mid, and his point-and-click blink/root + knockup means he can punish midlaners without escapes fairly brutally. His ult is good for making you pay attention to your team's positioning in teamfights, and saplings can be fun to poke with/use as free wards. If you're a good jungle Alistar, he can exert similar early-game pressure, but with different approaches to lanes due to the non-positional nature of his skills.
Nunu's deceptively strong - he can exert a lot of map pressure,has a lot of cute L1 tricks/starts (with Consume, v.easy to start boots/ward/pot) and gives your AD carry a fantastic lategame. At the recent IEM Cologne, he was v.frequently banned or first-picked, and never showed up toplane (sadly). He's surprisingly decent at counterganking, and if the enemy jungler shows top, Consume + Blood Boil on the carry can give you a fairly quick dragon.
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Oh damn, westrice playing mundo top?! :O
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On August 20 2012 10:03 Craton wrote:
I'll just be over here collecting free wins as jungle Nunu. Don't mind me.
I've said it multiple times. But apparently people don't believe me. You can hit (fake) plat with jungle nunu (that's 1900). Sadly the format has moved away from all the junglers nunu completely shits on (any bruiser for the most part), to one that nunu is only even with others, but he still is an amazing jungler.
Is nunu's jungling slow? That depends on how you measure speed. Killing mobs in the jungle and finishing without dying, there are other junglers who do that. Nunu effectively always has full health in the jungle. He kills blue before any other champion can. And I just did a "full" clear (wolves,blue,wraiths,red,golems) which was 3:21 (obviously that's without any help in a custom game). He's effectively udyr, except instead of a stun he has e and w and r. He's the only tanky bruiser jungler who I'm actually positive with. My win rate has fallen from 70% to 62%, but that's still fucking amazing. With his buffs he now doesn't straight lose to any enemy champions in the jungle. Nunu can't be counter jungled unless the enemy is really really far ahead. He can dragon earlier than shaco (unless you're doing some cheesey first spawn dragon thing). Nunu is very easy to play early game, and very hard to play correctly late game (which is why lots of people do really poorly unless they are really far ahead). Nunu doesn't fall off no matter how many items the enemy has, he in fact scales more with the more items they have.
Too many people watching nunu being jungled wrong by the pros (though some of them are starting to figure him out).
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How come nobody plays Sona? Once I stopped going faerie first and rushed a chalice, it was amazing how effective you could be. The first few levels are hard due to having only one ward, but the amount of pressure you could put on is ridiculous. Best thing is you can really react to how the lane is going with your skill choices. Not to mention you have that ult for team fights.
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On August 20 2012 09:21 TheKefka wrote:OMG I finally figured out where I heard the name Darius for the first time! + Show Spoiler +It was bugging me since he got announced.
Oh. For me its this one.+ Show Spoiler +
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