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Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 14:55:26
September 08 2012 14:54 GMT
#4341
On September 08 2012 23:48 Eladir wrote:
Hate rumor bullshit. Untill something negative happens, Azubu are great for helping eSports.


Korean communities are cautious because of how fragile E-sports scene in Korea is right now. If this "rumor" turned out to be true, it'd be the end of E-sports in Korea without fail. It doesn't help that Azubu's background has been very shady...
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
September 08 2012 15:02 GMT
#4342
On September 08 2012 23:36 Frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 23:35 Schnake wrote:
On September 08 2012 23:27 Frost wrote:
On September 08 2012 23:25 jpak wrote:
On September 08 2012 23:23 Celial wrote:
what kind of company is azubu anyways, assumed they are korean, but they have an european division led by what seems to be a german and the chairman of the whole thing is american...

I thought Azubu was a German Company.


Nope. Their servers are situated in Korea and the company itself was created with money from Korea.

Well, the Azubu Europe AG seems to be German.


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On September 08 2012 15:07 Frost wrote:
Some interesting thing is happening in Korea. From what I gathered, there's a consensus among Korean gaming communities that Azubu is merely a dummy corporation. The most popular "rumor" that is going around in the communities is that a unknown Korean who's run into "issues" in financial investments in stocks created Azubu for the purpose of money laundering and make it look like Azubu is investing in E-sports. It seems that any topics regarding this issue in popular korean websites such as naver and daum are shut down immediately as soon as they pop up. Many in the communities are asking for answers but with Azubu threatening to use legal powers to stop these so-called "rumors", people are hesitant to pursue the issue.


There you go. Also, many are linking the unknown Korean to one named Kim Suk Ki who is apparently on the interpol's wanted person list for the above mentioned "issues" in financial investments.

Interesting, according to the Bundesanzeiger, the majority shareholder of Azubu is the "SYSK Limited, Road Town" (at least since Feb 2012). Googling that leads to this info from trademarkia where some keywords are definitely financial services.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 08 2012 15:13 GMT
#4343
just came back from the finals! There were so many people there ~8000.
Was good but sadly clg lost :<
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snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
September 08 2012 15:16 GMT
#4344
Pretty sick games, feel bad for CLG.EU, thought they had it in the bag

Here's some pictures I took from the cosplayers

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Eladir
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece467 Posts
September 08 2012 15:23 GMT
#4345
Korean communities are cautious because of how fragile E-sports scene in Korea is right now. If this "rumor" turned out to be true, it'd be the end of E-sports in Korea without fail. It doesn't help that Azubu's background has been very shady...
It's good they are cautious but there's a limit that if you cross it's paranoia. Azubu is the main sponsor of the OGN LoL tournaments, they sponsor the 2 most successful Korean teams and Violet in SC2. I don't think their involvement is SO BIG that if they had to pull out the Korean eSports scene would die.
There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance. -Socrates
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
September 08 2012 15:36 GMT
#4346
On September 09 2012 00:23 Eladir wrote:
Show nested quote +
Korean communities are cautious because of how fragile E-sports scene in Korea is right now. If this "rumor" turned out to be true, it'd be the end of E-sports in Korea without fail. It doesn't help that Azubu's background has been very shady...
It's good they are cautious but there's a limit that if you cross it's paranoia. Azubu is the main sponsor of the OGN LoL tournaments, they sponsor the 2 most successful Korean teams and Violet in SC2. I don't think their involvement is SO BIG that if they had to pull out the Korean eSports scene would die.


E-sports in Korea will be severely diminished and will eventually die if the rumor is true. I don't think you really understand anything about how E-sports in Korea works. Let's say the rumor is true. In the case that the rumor is true, the fact that OGN, the most popular gaming channel in Korea and the primary contributor to the growth of E-sports in Korea, let a relatively unknown company (Azubu) that turned out to be just a dummy corporation used for money laundering sponsor two of their tournaments will be a big blow to the integrity of OGN and the legitimacy of E-sports in Korea. Just in case you also didn't know about a certain Ministry of Gender Equality threatening to shut down E-sports already in Korea, if the rumor turned out to be true, it will certainly happen so damn right Koreans are going to be cautious.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 08 2012 15:40 GMT
#4347
@snowbird the weapon from the sivir cosplay is the best I've ever seen O_O
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
September 08 2012 16:17 GMT
#4348
Nice cosplays indeed
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 16:22:16
September 08 2012 16:21 GMT
#4349
Frost, credible source and translation or just drop it because unless you do, your posts about azubu are as credible as me saying that the finals was matchfixed.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
September 08 2012 16:27 GMT
#4350
Lol, no way esports would die. Just take a hit. It has done so before at the hands of WC3 map editing ;-)
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 08 2012 16:42 GMT
#4351
On September 09 2012 01:27 Beyonder wrote:
Lol, no way esports would die. Just take a hit. It has done so before at the hands of WC3 map editing ;-)

The thing is, E-sports then was arguably much more stable than it is right now, given that BW was still alive and well.
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JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
September 08 2012 16:48 GMT
#4352
On September 09 2012 00:16 snowbird wrote:
Pretty sick games, feel bad for CLG.EU, thought they had it in the bag

Here's some pictures I took from the cosplayers

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That Caitlyn
Would love to meet her T_T
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
September 08 2012 18:14 GMT
#4353
On September 09 2012 01:27 Beyonder wrote:
Lol, no way esports would die. Just take a hit. It has done so before at the hands of WC3 map editing ;-)

Can you give some insight on the WC3 thingy?
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
September 08 2012 18:20 GMT
#4354
On September 09 2012 03:14 napo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 01:27 Beyonder wrote:
Lol, no way esports would die. Just take a hit. It has done so before at the hands of WC3 map editing ;-)

Can you give some insight on the WC3 thingy?

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/9111-MBC_Map_Scandal_Update

Think this covers it..
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
September 08 2012 21:03 GMT
#4355
It disgusts me that they do blind pick for deciding matches.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 21:08:45
September 08 2012 21:08 GMT
#4356
I LOVE the blind pick idea actually it's hilarious. Give both teams their best comps let em duke it out. It's a good change just for 1 game, I think, but everyone seems to hate it and automatically assume that I SHOULD hate it and i'm retarded for not hating it but I don't understand it.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 08 2012 21:28 GMT
#4357
On September 09 2012 06:08 Slayer91 wrote:
I LOVE the blind pick idea actually it's hilarious. Give both teams their best comps let em duke it out. It's a good change just for 1 game, I think, but everyone seems to hate it and automatically assume that I SHOULD hate it and i'm retarded for not hating it but I don't understand it.

It's because there are a lot of people like me who consider the draft phase and ability to outpick the enemy team extremely crucial and a great display of skill and knowledge. Blind pick robs me of the joy of watching the draft happening, not to mention it introduces certain amount of luck as far as picks go (just randomly get a teamcomp that is specifically good against the opposing teams one).
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
September 08 2012 21:33 GMT
#4358
I actually think it allows for greater mind games in champ select. But so far noone has been ballsy to come up with some insanely gay comp just for the Blind Pick in mind. meh
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
September 08 2012 21:36 GMT
#4359
On September 09 2012 06:28 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 06:08 Slayer91 wrote:
I LOVE the blind pick idea actually it's hilarious. Give both teams their best comps let em duke it out. It's a good change just for 1 game, I think, but everyone seems to hate it and automatically assume that I SHOULD hate it and i'm retarded for not hating it but I don't understand it.

It's because there are a lot of people like me who consider the draft phase and ability to outpick the enemy team extremely crucial and a great display of skill and knowledge. Blind pick robs me of the joy of watching the draft happening, not to mention it introduces certain amount of luck as far as picks go (just randomly get a teamcomp that is specifically good against the opposing teams one).


You had 4 games of draft mode. Besides, you have every other game of every tournament to watch ppl draft. Blind picking in a skill as well.

Also, they basically pick the same comps anyway, with some minor variations based on bans.
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
September 08 2012 21:51 GMT
#4360
On September 09 2012 01:48 JerKy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 00:16 snowbird wrote:
Pretty sick games, feel bad for CLG.EU, thought they had it in the bag

Here's some pictures I took from the cosplayers

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That Caitlyn
Would love to meet her T_T

I'd meat her.
:) I play zerg. FOX AND KT ROLSTER COASTER FAN! Because I love everyone. Except bisu.
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