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On April 25 2012 08:40 Seuss wrote: By the time I post this Treadmill will have added three more champion to his list. Nah, I'm done. Well, Nunu is a good catch. Also Lee Sin honestly counts (tank? cc? caster?). Maybe I can stretch it to include Nocturne and Blitzcrank. Thats probably most of them though.
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On April 25 2012 08:43 Treadmill wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 08:40 Seuss wrote: By the time I post this Treadmill will have added three more champion to his list. Nah, I'm done. Well, Nunu is a good catch. Also Lee Sin honestly counts (tank? cc? caster?). Maybe I can stretch it to include Nocturne and Blitzcrank. Thats probably most of them though.
Your ability to stretch a definition is beyond that of Mr. Fantastic, given that this topic of discussion was explicitly concerning AP casters in the jungle.
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As far as I am concerned, it's not an AP caster jungle unless you actually build some goddamn AP on them. Philo stone -> HoG -> Shurelya/FH does not = caster jungle, even for Maokai.
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And somebody mentioned Galio. You don't jungle Galio, do you? I mean, I guess Bulwark would make it doable, but...
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I think a caster jungle would be a champion that only gets ap ratio's on their skills, but doesn't build ap because they jungle and want to win games. Technically that would make amumu a caster jungler. Naut, singed, maokai, nunu, karthus, fiddle, (fizz but hardly anyone ever jungle fizz), (yi technically only gets ap ratio's also), amumu, and I think that covers them all. Looking at the list, my definition is almost right, except in some weird circumstances, but for the common junglers seems to fit.
edit: cow also, and technically mundo only gets ap ratios also. I think you might have to increase it to ap ratios on all the damage spells, which would still include yi, but would remove mundo.
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watching Team Green Forest scrim Dirtnap Gaming (both extremely high elo, low-profile teams) from LovelyChris's point of view: http://www.own3d.tv/live/239935/DnG_LovelyChris_2400__ELO_Jungler_AP_Mid
TGF jungler is going renekton with teleport smite. and not falling incredibly far behind. that's what's up. super excited to see how this turns out
edit: it's definitely working. didn't think renek jungle was viable, let alone with a summoner like teleport. you guys should all watch chris's stream btw, he's super nice and answers questions if you ask him while he's playing
edit2: fuck my life SG queues into them in ranked 5s
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On April 25 2012 09:09 gtrsrs wrote:watching Team Green Forest scrim Dirtnap Gaming (both extremely high elo, low-profile teams) from LovelyChris's point of view: http://www.own3d.tv/live/239935/DnG_LovelyChris_2400__ELO_Jungler_AP_MidTGF jungler is going renekton with teleport smite. and not falling incredibly far behind. that's what's up. super excited to see how this turns out edit: it's definitely working. didn't think renek jungle was viable, let alone with a summoner like teleport. you guys should all watch chris's stream btw, he's super nice and answers questions if you ask him while he's playing
pink ward brushes, tp in, big plays all day every day.
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On April 25 2012 09:09 gtrsrs wrote:watching Team Green Forest scrim Dirtnap Gaming (both extremely high elo, low-profile teams) from LovelyChris's point of view: http://www.own3d.tv/live/239935/DnG_LovelyChris_2400__ELO_Jungler_AP_MidTGF jungler is going renekton with teleport smite. and not falling incredibly far behind. that's what's up. super excited to see how this turns out edit: it's definitely working. didn't think renek jungle was viable, let alone with a summoner like teleport. you guys should all watch chris's stream btw, he's super nice and answers questions if you ask him while he's playing
Guitar getting the 37 viewer props. The sound on their voice chat sounds alien or mechanized but aside from that problem it's a good game.
They're very reasonable to listen to while they play. The sound is a major turn off from an otherwise enjoyable stream.
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Top 3 is accurate enough, but it's not a very good list when you have Karma as a viable support but not Orianna. Lulu way too low, Taric too high. Blitz should 1-up Lux.
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On April 25 2012 09:27 Juicyfruit wrote:Top 3 is accurate enough, but it's not a very good list when you have Karma as a viable support but not Orianna. Lulu way too low, Taric too high. Someone said annie was there just to show how poor of a support Karma is
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I find it funny his AP tierlist has heimer infront of swain
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On April 25 2012 08:49 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 08:43 Treadmill wrote:On April 25 2012 08:40 Seuss wrote: By the time I post this Treadmill will have added three more champion to his list. Nah, I'm done. Well, Nunu is a good catch. Also Lee Sin honestly counts (tank? cc? caster?). Maybe I can stretch it to include Nocturne and Blitzcrank. Thats probably most of them though. Your ability to stretch a definition is beyond that of Mr. Fantastic, given that this topic of discussion was explicitly concerning AP casters in the jungle. The point was that someone was saying "hey, naut and maokai are the best junglers, and they're also the only caster-tanks". So I just wanted to point out that there are a lot of characters you can call caster tanks. Some of which ARE good in the jungle, some of which are not. I was more responding to
On April 25 2012 08:28 Kaneh wrote: The only pure caster/tank/cc are maokai/naut, and well, that's why they are junglers. Though, to be fair, many of my examples are definitely not pure caster-tanks. But Galio, Malphite, Amumu, Cho'Gath, Leona, Alistar, and a couple others are.
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Hey don't be hating on Taric. Superb armour aura with armour shred and a short CD stun+a solid team steroid from ultimate, on top of nice personal damage. Sure he's not an all-rounder like Janna that you can basically never go wrong with, but when he's good he's great.
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Taric does not deserve to be fourth on the list though.
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On April 25 2012 09:31 wei2coolman wrote: I find it funny his AP tierlist has heimer infront of swain
I've seen Heimerdingers do fairly well on high ELO streams and rarely see Swain
His tierlists are strictly his opinion btw, whether its wrong or not doesn't matter
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Guitar link your stream!
Never mind a quick look on the 1st page of this sub forum found it! I'm dumb
Aww you aren't streaming this game 
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On April 25 2012 09:37 Bladeorade wrote:Guitar link your stream! Never mind a quick look on the 1st page of this sub forum found it! I'm dumb Aww you aren't streaming this game  2 edits his team straight getting shit on
its pathetic
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Meh all good practice. As far as I knew though treebeard was like the best player on his team. Not sure whats happening down dur
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