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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
April 24 2012 23:43 GMT
#1641
On April 25 2012 08:40 Seuss wrote:
By the time I post this Treadmill will have added three more champion to his list.

Nah, I'm done. Well, Nunu is a good catch. Also Lee Sin honestly counts (tank? cc? caster?). Maybe I can stretch it to include Nocturne and Blitzcrank. Thats probably most of them though.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 24 2012 23:49 GMT
#1642
On April 25 2012 08:43 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 08:40 Seuss wrote:
By the time I post this Treadmill will have added three more champion to his list.

Nah, I'm done. Well, Nunu is a good catch. Also Lee Sin honestly counts (tank? cc? caster?). Maybe I can stretch it to include Nocturne and Blitzcrank. Thats probably most of them though.


Your ability to stretch a definition is beyond that of Mr. Fantastic, given that this topic of discussion was explicitly concerning AP casters in the jungle.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 24 2012 23:54 GMT
#1643
As far as I am concerned, it's not an AP caster jungle unless you actually build some goddamn AP on them. Philo stone -> HoG -> Shurelya/FH does not = caster jungle, even for Maokai.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 24 2012 23:56 GMT
#1644
And somebody mentioned Galio. You don't jungle Galio, do you? I mean, I guess Bulwark would make it doable, but...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 00:06:46
April 25 2012 00:04 GMT
#1645
I think a caster jungle would be a champion that only gets ap ratio's on their skills, but doesn't build ap because they jungle and want to win games. Technically that would make amumu a caster jungler. Naut, singed, maokai, nunu, karthus, fiddle, (fizz but hardly anyone ever jungle fizz), (yi technically only gets ap ratio's also), amumu, and I think that covers them all. Looking at the list, my definition is almost right, except in some weird circumstances, but for the common junglers seems to fit.

edit: cow also, and technically mundo only gets ap ratios also. I think you might have to increase it to ap ratios on all the damage spells, which would still include yi, but would remove mundo.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
April 25 2012 00:09 GMT
#1646
Cho'gath and Malphite?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 00:34:55
April 25 2012 00:09 GMT
#1647
watching Team Green Forest scrim Dirtnap Gaming (both extremely high elo, low-profile teams) from LovelyChris's point of view:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/239935/DnG_LovelyChris_2400__ELO_Jungler_AP_Mid

TGF jungler is going renekton with teleport smite. and not falling incredibly far behind. that's what's up. super excited to see how this turns out

edit: it's definitely working. didn't think renek jungle was viable, let alone with a summoner like teleport.
you guys should all watch chris's stream btw, he's super nice and answers questions if you ask him while he's playing


edit2: fuck my life SG queues into them in ranked 5s
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 25 2012 00:16 GMT
#1648
On April 25 2012 09:09 gtrsrs wrote:
watching Team Green Forest scrim Dirtnap Gaming (both extremely high elo, low-profile teams) from LovelyChris's point of view:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/239935/DnG_LovelyChris_2400__ELO_Jungler_AP_Mid

TGF jungler is going renekton with teleport smite. and not falling incredibly far behind. that's what's up. super excited to see how this turns out

edit: it's definitely working. didn't think renek jungle was viable, let alone with a summoner like teleport.
you guys should all watch chris's stream btw, he's super nice and answers questions if you ask him while he's playing


pink ward brushes, tp in, big plays all day every day.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 25 2012 00:18 GMT
#1649
http://www.reignofgaming.net/tier-lists/draft-tier-list/support-champions/20093-support-tier-list

dunno how annie fits into support, except for the stun.
liftlift > tsm
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
April 25 2012 00:26 GMT
#1650
On April 25 2012 09:09 gtrsrs wrote:
watching Team Green Forest scrim Dirtnap Gaming (both extremely high elo, low-profile teams) from LovelyChris's point of view:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/239935/DnG_LovelyChris_2400__ELO_Jungler_AP_Mid

TGF jungler is going renekton with teleport smite. and not falling incredibly far behind. that's what's up. super excited to see how this turns out

edit: it's definitely working. didn't think renek jungle was viable, let alone with a summoner like teleport.
you guys should all watch chris's stream btw, he's super nice and answers questions if you ask him while he's playing



Guitar getting the 37 viewer props. The sound on their voice chat sounds alien or mechanized but aside from that problem it's a good game.

They're very reasonable to listen to while they play. The sound is a major turn off from an otherwise enjoyable stream.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 00:29:20
April 25 2012 00:27 GMT
#1651
On April 25 2012 09:18 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/tier-lists/draft-tier-list/support-champions/20093-support-tier-list

dunno how annie fits into support, except for the stun.


Top 3 is accurate enough, but it's not a very good list when you have Karma as a viable support but not Orianna. Lulu way too low, Taric too high. Blitz should 1-up Lux.

Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
April 25 2012 00:29 GMT
#1652
On April 25 2012 09:27 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 09:18 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/tier-lists/draft-tier-list/support-champions/20093-support-tier-list

dunno how annie fits into support, except for the stun.


Top 3 is accurate enough, but it's not a very good list when you have Karma as a viable support but not Orianna. Lulu way too low, Taric too high.

Someone said annie was there just to show how poor of a support Karma is
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 25 2012 00:31 GMT
#1653
I find it funny his AP tierlist has heimer infront of swain
liftlift > tsm
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 00:34:45
April 25 2012 00:33 GMT
#1654
On April 25 2012 08:49 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 08:43 Treadmill wrote:
On April 25 2012 08:40 Seuss wrote:
By the time I post this Treadmill will have added three more champion to his list.

Nah, I'm done. Well, Nunu is a good catch. Also Lee Sin honestly counts (tank? cc? caster?). Maybe I can stretch it to include Nocturne and Blitzcrank. Thats probably most of them though.


Your ability to stretch a definition is beyond that of Mr. Fantastic, given that this topic of discussion was explicitly concerning AP casters in the jungle.

The point was that someone was saying "hey, naut and maokai are the best junglers, and they're also the only caster-tanks". So I just wanted to point out that there are a lot of characters you can call caster tanks. Some of which ARE good in the jungle, some of which are not. I was more responding to
On April 25 2012 08:28 Kaneh wrote:
The only pure caster/tank/cc are maokai/naut, and well, that's why they are junglers.

Though, to be fair, many of my examples are definitely not pure caster-tanks. But Galio, Malphite, Amumu, Cho'Gath, Leona, Alistar, and a couple others are.
Nafaltar
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany302 Posts
April 25 2012 00:33 GMT
#1655
Hey don't be hating on Taric. Superb armour aura with armour shred and a short CD stun+a solid team steroid from ultimate, on top of nice personal damage. Sure he's not an all-rounder like Janna that you can basically never go wrong with, but when he's good he's great.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 00:36:15
April 25 2012 00:35 GMT
#1656
Taric does not deserve to be fourth on the list though.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 25 2012 00:35 GMT
#1657
On April 25 2012 09:31 wei2coolman wrote:
I find it funny his AP tierlist has heimer infront of swain

I've seen Heimerdingers do fairly well on high ELO streams and rarely see Swain

His tierlists are strictly his opinion btw, whether its wrong or not doesn't matter
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 00:38:17
April 25 2012 00:37 GMT
#1658
Guitar link your stream!

Never mind a quick look on the 1st page of this sub forum found it! I'm dumb

Aww you aren't streaming this game

2 edits
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 25 2012 00:42 GMT
#1659
On April 25 2012 09:37 Bladeorade wrote:
Guitar link your stream!

Never mind a quick look on the 1st page of this sub forum found it! I'm dumb

Aww you aren't streaming this game

2 edits

his team straight getting shit on

its pathetic
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
April 25 2012 00:43 GMT
#1660
Meh all good practice. As far as I knew though treebeard was like the best player on his team. Not sure whats happening down dur
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