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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 26 2012 11:12 GMT
#1621
On March 26 2012 19:36 iCanada wrote:
Anyone else find it amusing how all the Koreans think SV is the best LeeSin in the world?

Every single korean team I've seen CLG scrim against has banned LS.

I don't think he's all that special, he himself said he's going to step away from the champion a little, given the opportunity.
currently rooting for myself.
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
March 26 2012 12:09 GMT
#1622
On March 26 2012 17:33 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 17:26 JackDino wrote:
Is clg scrimming or doing rankeds 5? Their opponents kind of a joke.


it is loco's team i believe and they just shat on clg in that skirmish

also i am supper impressed by chausters leona and galio


"scrim" is actually short for scrimmage, not skirmish
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 26 2012 12:11 GMT
#1623
On March 26 2012 21:09 Thermia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 17:33 jadoth wrote:
On March 26 2012 17:26 JackDino wrote:
Is clg scrimming or doing rankeds 5? Their opponents kind of a joke.


it is loco's team i believe and they just shat on clg in that skirmish

also i am supper impressed by chausters leona and galio


"scrim" is actually short for scrimmage, not skirmish

''skirmish'' is actually defined as a minor short-lived military engagement, which might just be what he was referring to.
currently rooting for myself.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
March 26 2012 12:16 GMT
#1624
On March 26 2012 21:11 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 21:09 Thermia wrote:
On March 26 2012 17:33 jadoth wrote:
On March 26 2012 17:26 JackDino wrote:
Is clg scrimming or doing rankeds 5? Their opponents kind of a joke.


it is loco's team i believe and they just shat on clg in that skirmish

also i am supper impressed by chausters leona and galio


"scrim" is actually short for scrimmage, not skirmish

''skirmish'' is actually defined as a minor short-lived military engagement, which might just be what he was referring to.


ya i was referring to the fight where double and jiji got 2v2 by ali and ahri and then the rest colapsed on hotshoot and sv after they chased nid.
Brockster
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany82 Posts
March 26 2012 13:10 GMT
#1625
just some random thoughts i had at the start of the week:
We absolutely need and should enforce an Origami Anivia Skin, I dunno why thats not yet implemented.
If you are unsure what to ban, ban the Sh-champs, Shaco Shen Shyvana, my bans are all in a straight line, awesome.

Apart from that, I have huge problems against Mordekaisers Mid. My goto-ap is Katarina or Ryze, with both i didnt do terrible well against es numero #1. Talking about ranked games in a 1500 elo range. With Katarina i cannot poke through the shield fast enough, and when he hits revolver my harass never sticks. ryze just gets heavily outpushed and when i m under my tower morde farms both wraiths camps while i m busy last hitting.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 26 2012 13:16 GMT
#1626
On March 26 2012 22:10 Brockster wrote:
just some random thoughts i had at the start of the week:
We absolutely need and should enforce an Origami Anivia Skin, I dunno why thats not yet implemented.
If you are unsure what to ban, ban the Sh-champs, Shaco Shen Shyvana, my bans are all in a straight line, awesome.

Apart from that, I have huge problems against Mordekaisers Mid. My goto-ap is Katarina or Ryze, with both i didnt do terrible well against es numero #1. Talking about ranked games in a 1500 elo range. With Katarina i cannot poke through the shield fast enough, and when he hits revolver my harass never sticks. ryze just gets heavily outpushed and when i m under my tower morde farms both wraiths camps while i m busy last hitting.

Kat is my go-to champ aswell, so.. Iknowthatfeelbro.jpg

Mordekaiser is weak early, pushes all game and becomes really hard to stop if he gets to his soft spot. Early duelists like Cassio work really well, LeBlanc shits on him if you play it smart and I honestly really like Ryze against him, too, just because QWQ tears through him like he's butter early on.
currently rooting for myself.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 26 2012 13:19 GMT
#1627
Basicly any champ beats morde early on, Katarina might even be the worst choise since E puts you in range for his Q and W. Herass the dude. Alot. AP Lulu mid also shits on Morde since your E sticks long enough for a free Q hit
KCCO!
Miiike
Profile Joined July 2010
United States141 Posts
March 26 2012 14:03 GMT
#1628
So I just noticed on the PAX East Schedule that this year's LoL tournament is 5v5.

I may need a 5th for my team -- just a bunch of 1400-1600 decent players with good communication between each other. Last year I hooked up with a team from here and everything worked out great. Most teams are pretty garbage at events like these, it would be nice to tryhard it up just a little.

PM me if you're interested in that.
gdoOso.448 | LoL NA: Osogrande | DotA 2: GDO.Oso
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 15:46:53
March 26 2012 15:45 GMT
#1629
On March 26 2012 16:46 Lancer723 wrote:
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On March 26 2012 13:48 Bambipwnsu wrote:
Ok so we just pretty much got destroyed bot lane and i'd like to ask for some feedback/ideas into the picks and how to play the lane. I don't remember the exact order of the picks so yeah...not very accurate.

First game they had janna/kog, we had lulu/ashe
I felt like i couldn't harass kog very effectively because of kog w punishing quite hard and also janna shield. As soon as kog hit 6-7 the harass was really hard for us to handle.

Second game they had taric/graves, we picked sona/ez. I felt like our sona pick was completely destroyed here since taric could just zone me (sona) with stun and the damage from graves was like a pot every single time. The armor off of graves+taric was really too much to handle as well.

btw im speaking by my point of view (support)


Game 1

I don't know if there is anything you could have done. Ashe's lane phase is pretty rough to begin with and I find that she doesn't mesh well with Lulu. And unfortunately I don't believe that just taking it to a farm war is advantageous especially if they had a good "protect the Kog" team, in which case a farmed Kow'Maw is going to rip through your team like a hot knife through butter. You pretty much have to get ahead before Janna hits 6, and I mean REALLY ahead. Jungler intervention probably needed if only to try and get Kog off the creeps. If your AD manages to abuse her range and get some crits while arcane barrage is down maybe you can force him off the creeps and zone, but Janna shield plus the fact that Lulu similarly can't sustain makes it iffy.

Now that I think about there might be a chance to get aggressive against them level's 2-4, but I dunno you'd have to execute really well and hope to get lucky.

Game 2

Sounds like poor brush control to me. You probably need to buy a pink ward level 1 and make sure you keep his brush warded and yours unwarded. Force taric to be on the back foot. As long as you have vision of him you can play mindgames and always sit at the edge of his stun range. Basically you can bait him into walking into Ez q's and have to level his heal and waste his mana, making his armor buff less and making him unable to become aggressive. Graves is the wildcard here, if he decides to dash +Q you early you will take a ton of damage, but note that when he does this to you, he blew his cooldowns and Ez should be able to punish him for it. At worst if you can't do that, Sona and Ez early game burst should be enough to outright kill graves or Taric if they want to make an issue of you farming, and taking it to a farm war is to your advantage because Taric's lategame is awful.

Hmmm, I think the gist of it is that you have to be on the same page as your Ez like all the time. My roomate mains Ezreal and I've played more Sona/Ez than I care to admit, but basically you bait and kite as much as possible and force Taric to be passive either by making him level heal to deal with your harass or by denying him vision and forcing a farm war.


yeah the ashe matchup was really rough since it seemed like we really couldnt do much other than cc kog and run whenever he turned on his W.

For the Sona one, i was trying really hard to avoid the taric who is zoning me hard with the stun. To be honest the first few exchanges were done outside of the bush. I can get my Q off on graves if im lucky with no damage, but by the time I land my powerchord taric is usually able to run in range and stun me ;;.

Thanks for the tips though, I will try buying pink wards vs taric next time and see if I can abuse that more.
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 26 2012 16:42 GMT
#1630
On March 26 2012 22:19 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Basicly any champ beats morde early on, Katarina might even be the worst choise since E puts you in range for his Q and W. Herass the dude. Alot. AP Lulu mid also shits on Morde since your E sticks long enough for a free Q hit

kat has always been a strong pick against morde, she doesn't win lanes by spamming E and giving any hero free harass on her. She wins by spamming Q and getting free harass on them
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 26 2012 16:46 GMT
#1631
Saints ls DID win wcg pretty much singlehandedly. He probably is the best ls in the world atm, and ls is a real annoting champ to play vs.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 26 2012 17:00 GMT
#1632
Bought Shyvana. God is she strong oO
The legend of Darien lives on
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 26 2012 17:01 GMT
#1633
On March 27 2012 02:00 mr_tolkien wrote:
Bought Shyvana. God is she strong oO

Top or jungle? I've been listening to SV going on a rant about how there's no reason to pick her over Mundo in the jungle and to be honest, I sort of get that notion.
currently rooting for myself.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 26 2012 17:04 GMT
#1634
On March 27 2012 02:01 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:00 mr_tolkien wrote:
Bought Shyvana. God is she strong oO

Top or jungle? I've been listening to SV going on a rant about how there's no reason to pick her over Mundo in the jungle and to be honest, I sort of get that notion.

I don't care what saint says, she's still strong as fuck in the jungle and a better counterjungler earlier, atleast from my experience she doesn't get as low in the jungle.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 26 2012 17:06 GMT
#1635
so are any TLers going to PAX East and looking to do the LoL tourney? Just looked at the schedule and am thinking I'd like to play in it if I could get a decent team together.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
March 26 2012 17:07 GMT
#1636
On March 27 2012 01:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
Saints ls DID win wcg pretty much singlehandedly. He probably is the best ls in the world atm, and ls is a real annoting champ to play vs.

i kept reading ls as a capitalized is and i was so confused
:)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 26 2012 17:09 GMT
#1637
Cell phone keyboard. What can I say.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 26 2012 17:11 GMT
#1638
On March 27 2012 02:06 Mogwai wrote:
so are any TLers going to PAX East and looking to do the LoL tourney? Just looked at the schedule and am thinking I'd like to play in it if I could get a decent team together.

On March 26 2012 23:03 Miiike wrote:
So I just noticed on the PAX East Schedule that this year's LoL tournament is 5v5.

I may need a 5th for my team -- just a bunch of 1400-1600 decent players with good communication between each other. Last year I hooked up with a team from here and everything worked out great. Most teams are pretty garbage at events like these, it would be nice to tryhard it up just a little.

PM me if you're interested in that.

currently rooting for myself.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
March 26 2012 17:12 GMT
#1639
On March 27 2012 02:07 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 01:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
Saints ls DID win wcg pretty much singlehandedly. He probably is the best ls in the world atm, and ls is a real annoting champ to play vs.

i kept reading ls as a capitalized is and i was so confused

you and me both.

is is is confusing.
boomer hands
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 26 2012 17:25 GMT
#1640
On March 27 2012 02:01 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:00 mr_tolkien wrote:
Bought Shyvana. God is she strong oO

Top or jungle? I've been listening to SV going on a rant about how there's no reason to pick her over Mundo in the jungle and to be honest, I sort of get that notion.

Jungle. Mundo might be better in a broader way, but he doesn't have Shyvana's mobility early on and the crazy engages late game, as well as the godlike nashor pressure.

Both are good tbh, but I prefer Shyv's skillset in the jungle. The W destroys small camps, the Q destroys objectives, that's all you need :p
The legend of Darien lives on
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