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The Champions Feedback Thread

General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 18 2012 11:27 GMT
#2721
On April 18 2012 20:25 Slusher wrote:
is surrender even legal in IEM events I've seen some really lopsided games but I've never seen a surrender in a pro match.

You can always /ff. It's just that normally the game isn't so lopsided that teams still feel they can win. But that game, MiG just flattened Najin. Also, Koreans have a very defeatist mentality where if they feel there's no point dragging out a game when it's inevitable they just surrender. Happens a lot in Korea solo queue. Also, that game was completely over for Najin. MiG could just right click their way to the Nexus and had a full minute to do so. This just made the win 40 seconds faster.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
April 18 2012 11:27 GMT
#2722
A happy mig frost team just stepped outside for a quick smoke
washed
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 18 2012 11:27 GMT
#2723
On April 18 2012 20:24 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 20:22 DanielZKlein wrote:
MiG didn't do THAT much with baron, did they? Two towers, right? Looks like NaJin wants to force a late game, still don't think that's going to save them.

It's very hard for MiG to siege towers with the massive wave clearing Najin has. They get very little time to damage the tower since there's always the risk of Skarner Flash-Ult and they want to play it safe. They don't need to rush it and throw the game.

Bad fight near Baron. MiG so ahead, Urgot just swaps himself into the other team and MiG flatten Najin. Surrender comes out! GEE GEEE.


Yeah, I agree. It didn't look like MiG did much with Baron but it wasn't for a lack of trying.

Remember that MiG decided to go with an nontraditional AD carry. Urgot has rather abysmal range for his auto, as bad as Vayne or Graves. But Vayne tries to build AS, Graves has Quick Draw. If anything Urgot tries to build up his CDR first his EQQQ combo. Come mid game, a team with a farmed Urgot will still have subpar sieging capabilities.

As as Lunar said, surprise Skarner initiate would have been a blow MiG didn't want to take.
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Sicariidae
Profile Joined May 2011
50 Posts
April 18 2012 11:28 GMT
#2724
On April 18 2012 20:25 Slusher wrote:
is surrender even legal in IEM events I've seen some really lopsided games but I've never seen a surrender in a pro match.


Some events have weird tiebreaker rules where the team that won their games faster go through; so, I suppose the teams just try to draw out the game to give themselves a chance should it come to a tiebreak.
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
April 18 2012 11:28 GMT
#2725
I didn't catch the invade, what exactly happened?
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 18 2012 11:28 GMT
#2726
On April 18 2012 20:26 shrinkmaster wrote:
very convincing play by mig, but they got a huge early lead.

not sure who would have won if they had an equal early game.


At equal farm/items, I'd give the edge to NaJin. But the whole point of MiG's comp was to set NaJin behind and MiG did exactly that.
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 18 2012 11:29 GMT
#2727
Did I just hear hotshot in the background doing some interview?
Terran
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 18 2012 11:29 GMT
#2728
On April 18 2012 20:27 Vlanitak wrote:
A happy mig frost team just stepped outside for a quick smoke


Bad Loco, bad.
We've had this talk before, zzz.
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
April 18 2012 11:34 GMT
#2729
On April 18 2012 20:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 20:27 Vlanitak wrote:
A happy mig frost team just stepped outside for a quick smoke


Bad Loco, bad.
We've had this talk before, zzz.

he didnt smoke
washed
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
April 18 2012 11:34 GMT
#2730
What can NaJin do differently in game 2? I do sense an Urgot ban, but if MiG wants to run this tanky lineup again, NaJin will need to have at least a bruiser on top lane I feel, or get a Koggles for bot. I don't know, I'd love to see the blind pick rule in action (just to see HOW silly it gets), but I don't think NaJin can take even one map off MiG Frost.

Unless they troll.

Come on, MiG, troll!
My modesty is awesome.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23430 Posts
April 18 2012 11:36 GMT
#2731
Ban urgot, don't pick rumble.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
April 18 2012 11:37 GMT
#2732
Oh my god I just realized what you guys were talking about when you meant blind pick. What in the hell... what demon possessed the judges/coordinators to think game 3 blind pick would be a good idea.
Retvrn to Forvms
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
April 18 2012 11:38 GMT
#2733
Yup, it's almost like saying game 3 is a coin flip.
My modesty is awesome.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 18 2012 11:38 GMT
#2734
On April 18 2012 20:37 Chrispy wrote:
Oh my god I just realized what you guys were talking about when you meant blind pick. What in the hell... what demon possessed the judges/coordinators to think game 3 blind pick would be a good idea.


sloooooow.

It'll be amusing though. I can also see this ending in tragedy, haha.
I'm sure teams will complain, esp if they lose, due to 3rd game Blind Pick.
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
April 18 2012 11:39 GMT
#2735
nate disappeared before I got to talk to him. Ill sat hi from you after next game Daniel
also had to move again nate found the girl he was reserving my seat for. Now sitting on far left right outside the Miag frost booth
washed
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 11:40:26
April 18 2012 11:39 GMT
#2736
I think it's the best idea I've ever seen. Blind pick in competitive lol has never been explored, I'd love to see it. People never like mirror matchups, but mirrors are part of the best (e)sports ever, like quake, sc:bw, even like chess which kinda counts but not really.

Like, why do people hate a mirror lane? If you lose you got staight up outplayed, I think people just don't like to realize that fact.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 18 2012 11:39 GMT
#2737
On April 18 2012 20:34 DanielZKlein wrote:
What can NaJin do differently in game 2? I do sense an Urgot ban, but if MiG wants to run this tanky lineup again, NaJin will need to have at least a bruiser on top lane I feel, or get a Koggles for bot. I don't know, I'd love to see the blind pick rule in action (just to see HOW silly it gets), but I don't think NaJin can take even one map off MiG Frost.

Unless they troll.

Come on, MiG, troll!

Their team comp pretty much counterpicked themselves. Rumble doesn't really get powerful until lvl 4, but Renekton stomps people starting from level 1. While Rumble was able to cs fine, it meant Skarner had to come top and that meanst Bot got flattened badly. Soraka also makes for very weak lanes since any time the heal is not up for the armour buff, you are going to eat Urgot EQQQQ for half your life. And the tanky team from MiG nullified the double AP strat. Double AP is very all-in. If you can't blow someone up immediately, you're going to be in trouble when everything is now on CD.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
April 18 2012 11:40 GMT
#2738
Yep, Urgot banned
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 18 2012 11:41 GMT
#2739
Bans:

NaJin bans (first): Kennen, Urgot, Ahri
MiG: Kass, Shen, Lee Sin
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fuzzbox
Profile Joined February 2010
235 Posts
April 18 2012 11:41 GMT
#2740
lol. loco shaving his head. now i'm rooting for Najin.
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