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On February 14 2012 21:36 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 21:34 TheKefka wrote:
I hate this Nautilus guy already.He has 392 move speed with lvl 2 boots and a janna on his team.0.932 attack speed with a wits end.
Magic Damage: 80 / 120 / 160 / 200 / 240 (+0.75 per ability power) Magic Damage: 30 / 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 (+0.4 per ability power Magic Damage: 60 / 100 / 140 / 180 / 220 (+0.51 per ability power) Explosion Magic Damage: 250 / 350 / 450 (+0.8 per ability power)
He may have god ratios but whatever.
I hate jungling with clunky slow champs.
Might as well put this guy mid and play him as a AP.
His mana costs are not really low as well.Your just gonna run out of mana and won't be able to gank if you spam your spells to farm the jungle,but you gotta do it because he hits slow as fuck.
Saint just said he likes sejuani better than him rofl,nuff said.
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On February 14 2012 21:38 TheKefka wrote:
Saint just said he likes sejuani better than him rofl,nuff said.
He played him for 1 game, thats not a proper sample. Also SV is not the allmighty being, stop saying stuff like this. If SV claims lux is best jungler you dont believe him I hope...
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On February 14 2012 21:47 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 21:38 TheKefka wrote:
Saint just said he likes sejuani better than him rofl,nuff said. He played him for 1 game, thats not a proper sample. Also SV is not the allmighty being, stop saying stuff like this. If SV claims lux is best jungler you dont believe him I hope...
I didn't mean it in a way like "saint says this his word is king". I don't really care about SV,but he is one of the best junglers right now and if he says that a mediocre jungler is better(or likes him better whatever) than this guy,that's pretty indicative.And yea it was one game,but this isn't rocket science so the first impressions are generally the right ones you get after playing a champ,sure you can try to "figure him out" but no amount of figuring out is going to let this guy have non shitty move and attack speed.
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On February 14 2012 21:50 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 21:47 ihasaKAROT wrote:On February 14 2012 21:38 TheKefka wrote:
Saint just said he likes sejuani better than him rofl,nuff said. He played him for 1 game, thats not a proper sample. Also SV is not the allmighty being, stop saying stuff like this. If SV claims lux is best jungler you dont believe him I hope... I didn't mean it in a way like "saint says this his word is king". I don't really care about SV,but he is one of the best junglers right now and if he says that a mediocre jungler is better(or likes him better whatever) than this guy,that's pretty indicative.And yea it was one game,but this isn't rocket science so the first impressions are generally the right ones you get after playing a champ,sure you can try to "figure him out" but no amount of figuring out is going to let this guy to have non shitty move and attack speed.
Yeah, Sejuani probably IS better if you build full tank or build wits end on someone with like 0.4 base aspd
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On February 14 2012 21:47 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 21:38 TheKefka wrote:
Saint just said he likes sejuani better than him rofl,nuff said. He played him for 1 game, thats not a proper sample. Also SV is not the allmighty being, stop saying stuff like this. If SV claims lux is best jungler you dont believe him I hope...
TBH, if SV said lux was the best jungle in the game, you bet ur ass id at least give her a try or try to find a vod of him playing her.
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On February 14 2012 21:53 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 21:47 ihasaKAROT wrote:On February 14 2012 21:38 TheKefka wrote:
Saint just said he likes sejuani better than him rofl,nuff said. He played him for 1 game, thats not a proper sample. Also SV is not the allmighty being, stop saying stuff like this. If SV claims lux is best jungler you dont believe him I hope... TBH, if SV said lux was the best jungle in the game, you bet ur ass id at least give her a try or try to find a vod of him playing her.
But you're a sv fanboy so what does that really mean
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would nautilus be any good with tanky/ap stuff ? Like roa/frozen hearth or things like that ?
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I mean didn't play this guy yet obviously(I'm from EU) and I don't want to hate on a champ that I haven't even tried out yet,but this guy,just seems to me,will be suffering from the nunu problem.He has bad attack speed,semi high mana costs and on top of that moves slow like a snail.
The jungle meta right now is all about lightning fast jungle clears WITHOUT wasting half of your mana pool on clears if you use mana.If you can't bring that to the table along with good mobility your just going to get abused by stuff like udyr/lee/shyvanna.What are you going to do if a red buffed udyr shows up in your jungle lol?
Better hope your lanes pay attention,but even than your just a liability anyway because your the one that is supposed to babysit the lanes and not the other way around.
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SV just did a full clear (wolves blue wraiths red golems wraiths) with Shen in 3.50 with a... Health ruby opening. And was still full life at the end.
Who the hell told Shen wasn't imba.
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On February 14 2012 22:05 mr_tolkien wrote:
SV just did a full clear (wolves blue wraiths red golems wraiths) with Shen in 3.50 with a... Health ruby opening. And was still full life at the end.
Who the hell told Shen wasn't imba.
Probably me..
3.50 is like 9 seconds faster than what he did with Nautilus going 0 aspd 0 dmg 0 ap so that's not actually too impressive, full hp is nice but yeah
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On February 14 2012 22:13 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 22:05 mr_tolkien wrote:
SV just did a full clear (wolves blue wraiths red golems wraiths) with Shen in 3.50 with a... Health ruby opening. And was still full life at the end.
Who the hell told Shen wasn't imba. Probably me.. 3.50 is like 9 seconds faster than what he did with Nautilus going 0 aspd 0 dmg 0 ap so that's not actually too impressive, full hp is nice but yeah
With a ruby crystal opening.
What don't you get in this.
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On February 14 2012 21:58 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 21:53 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 14 2012 21:47 ihasaKAROT wrote:On February 14 2012 21:38 TheKefka wrote:
Saint just said he likes sejuani better than him rofl,nuff said. He played him for 1 game, thats not a proper sample. Also SV is not the allmighty being, stop saying stuff like this. If SV claims lux is best jungler you dont believe him I hope... TBH, if SV said lux was the best jungle in the game, you bet ur ass id at least give her a try or try to find a vod of him playing her. But you're a sv fanboy so what does that really mean
Nailed it.
I haven't seen Naut in game yet, but looking at his kit, he seems like he may suffer from Sejuani syndrome. He has a shit ton of CC, but it looks like he might not actually be able to do anything with it without a team backing him up.
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On February 14 2012 22:16 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 22:13 Shikyo wrote:On February 14 2012 22:05 mr_tolkien wrote:
SV just did a full clear (wolves blue wraiths red golems wraiths) with Shen in 3.50 with a... Health ruby opening. And was still full life at the end.
Who the hell told Shen wasn't imba. Probably me.. 3.50 is like 9 seconds faster than what he did with Nautilus going 0 aspd 0 dmg 0 ap so that's not actually too impressive, full hp is nice but yeah With a ruby crystal opening. What don't you get in this.
That how's that strange? Normal jungling starting item would be what, vamp scepter or cloth 5 or boots? Boots would probably be faster yeah, but Ruby crystal is still faster than those 2. Only like Doran Blade would be faster so I don't see how that's... so strange?
And the 9 sec slower clear with Nautilus was with regen bead which gives no speed, ruby gives passive 18 dmg..
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Ah shen.The grand turd of turret diving.O god TT
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I apologize if this belongs in the QQ thread but I'm not really sure because it's more a general question than straight up QQ.
I've noticed that in normals when I play with someone I always seem to get matched with people who rage a lot. Though when I just solo everyone seems really polite, our team comps tend to be better balanced, and when I make a mistake like failing a gank I just say "I'm sorry" and people tend to be really courteous and say "It's ok."
Is it because my normal ELO is really low so the people I get matched up with are much worse than when I duo? It seems like my team is always so much better when I solo but I don't know if that's because the other team is really bad or something.
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On February 14 2012 15:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Nautilus' swimming in midair dance is an endless source of amusement for me.
I'm extremely surprised we got to page 4 without this being mentioned.
It's amazing. ^^
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On February 14 2012 22:21 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 22:16 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 14 2012 22:13 Shikyo wrote:On February 14 2012 22:05 mr_tolkien wrote:
SV just did a full clear (wolves blue wraiths red golems wraiths) with Shen in 3.50 with a... Health ruby opening. And was still full life at the end.
Who the hell told Shen wasn't imba. Probably me.. 3.50 is like 9 seconds faster than what he did with Nautilus going 0 aspd 0 dmg 0 ap so that's not actually too impressive, full hp is nice but yeah With a ruby crystal opening. What don't you get in this. That how's that strange? Normal jungling starting item would be what, vamp scepter or cloth 5 or boots? Boots would probably be faster yeah, but Ruby crystal is still faster than those 2. Only like Doran Blade would be faster so I don't see how that's... so strange? And the 9 sec slower clear with Nautilus was with regen bead which gives no speed, ruby gives passive 18 dmg..
The only other jungler that can get away with building absolutely NO health regen is Warwick, and his clear is not as good while having problems to clear without blue and to gank before 6.
Shen can NEVER build any regen (0 pots) and still jungle like a boss, while having gdlk early ganks (1.5s taunt at lvl1, that can't be imba). And he has a global ult to counter gank/initiate ANYTHING.
Now seriously, what is bad with Shen now. He does everything well.
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On February 14 2012 22:52 mr_tolkien wrote:
Now seriously, what is bad with Shen now. He does everything well.
He walks weird... Also you can see him when you are not about to die, thats not very ninja-like
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Not to mention his passive covers the energy cost increases.
And I dun care who it is. If a top player says x is the best at something and has the vods to back it, imma believe them. Well, except for sydtko.
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First thing I'm going to do when Nautilus free week comes along is go into a custom game and build 6 phantom dancers on him to watch the silly ass attack animation.
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