EPT[Patch 1.0.0.133: Ziggs] General Discussion - Page 66
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Craton
United States17264 Posts
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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Navi
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mostly @ the On February 05 2012 17:15 Craton wrote: The only consistently decent + at least semi-active poster here is Mogwai. whether or not that is true, you know it was gonna bait some flaming l0l not a personal attack by any means i think most people here are smart enough to figure out what is legitimate advice and what is not, and test for themselves as well. if something works at 1400s but not at 1800s, then once they reach a wall or two they will realize it in turn and adapt or never pass that wall. that kind of improvement, inquisitiveness and competency is what i have come to expect from TL. | ||
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Craton
United States17264 Posts
On February 05 2012 17:51 Terranasaur wrote: That is not the point. The point is that more gets discussed in GD than strategy and theory craft and bolding people would just clutter it up. I was being facetious. I posted earlier the same sentiment. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 05 2012 17:55 Craton wrote: I was being facetious. I posted earlier the same sentiment. You still haven't convinced me as to why forcing everyone to post their Elo is better than having posts highlighted. In fact, you've said nothing about that. | ||
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Craton
United States17264 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 05 2012 18:01 Craton wrote: Because I don't think you should be forced. My mistake then. I thought this post: On February 05 2012 16:32 Craton wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 05 2012 16:08 Navi wrote: SOUNDS REAL ARBITRARY AND DOUCHEY SHOULDNT DISCREDIT OPINION BASED ON ELO BUT REASONING IMO Meh, problem is too many people are basing their knowledge of X beating Y off of bad play and not optimal or even semi-optimal play. You can claim we're "elitist," but at the end of the day a e.g. 1300 player doesn't have nearly enough worthwhile experience or knowledge to make the definitive claims that like to get thrown around. The smart way is to preface statements with 'in my experience' or 'players at my level,' but people want to take what they see low caliber players do and repeat it as representative of players at higher tiers when that often is not the case. Anyway, as to "but people will shut them down for staying stupid shit" - not really. There are lots of really stupid things said / claims made on a fairly regular basis that get ignored because nobody wants to take the time getting into the argument to prove them wrong or risk being marked an "elitist" because high Elo play doesn't match up with what the guy is saying. On February 05 2012 16:09 Seuss wrote: I keep my current Elo in my signature. I've been waiting for someone to call me out because it's one point off. Elo is a terrible tool for measuring post value because Elo doesn't represent skill. Except it does and does so quite well, despite its many flaws. It's shown time and time again that players will reach a similar Elo over the course of playing smurfs, new seasons, whatever. You can tank your Elo and climb right back up. You can play on someone's high Elo account and you'll drop right back down to your own Elo. No matter how much you hate the system, it is representative of ability. was arguing for people posting their Elo. | ||
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Craton
United States17264 Posts
Whenever someone posts something that doesn't mesh with the norm or what I've seen, the level of acceptance I have will relate to the ability of the person making the claim. If it's someone I know to be good like Loci or Smash, I'm inclined to believe it. If it's someone unknown or known to be low, I'm inclined to disbelieve it unless they have a damn convincing argument. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Navi
5286 Posts
speaking of caps lock, why do people in this game like to blame and rage at others so much in solo queue? like if you 1. want to win 2. want to help others improve 3. improve your own play its not like indicating blame would do any of the above that constructive criticism would fail to do like even if your sole goal is to have fun in this game, coming away from a lost game where you indicate all the blame onto your teammates will probably leave you with a shittier feeling than thinking something along the lines of "well, we made mistakes, but there are a couple of things i could learn from / improve on in that game" | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On February 05 2012 17:55 Craton wrote: I was being facetious. I posted earlier the same sentiment. Ya. I didn't read it cause your posts aren't highlighted. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On February 05 2012 17:38 TheYango wrote: zzz I mean, I can see where Craton is coming from in one regard, and agree that post highlighting feels totally impractical for the LoL subforum, but I also think that forcing people to post their Elo is STRICTLY WORSE than post highlighting. Personally I don't see a reason to change anything, but if you absolutely must start distinguishing specific posters, mod-managed post highlighting is a strictly better solution than making everyone post their Elo, for reasons that were thoroughly discussed when the SC2 Strategy subforum went through the same shit. Even highlighting specific posters is usually a horrible idea because then suddenly people take EVERYTHING they say as a great opinion. As long as people talk about what they know and stick to "I'll stfu if I have no clue" everything is completely fine - and imo this subforum is still small enough that you can distinguish rather quickly who knows his field and who doesn't. PS: Why are we even discussing this? There is like no point besides some delicious Craton bait. =P | ||
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lynx.oblige
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
On February 05 2012 18:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: I stopped taking TL discussions seriously when twodown said he could 1v1 jiji Yes & rofl | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On February 05 2012 18:10 Navi wrote: imo my fault for having caps lock on speaking of caps lock, why do people in this game like to blame and rage at others so much in solo queue? like if you 1. want to win 2. want to help others improve 3. improve your own play its not like indicating blame would do any of the above that constructive criticism would fail to do like even if your sole goal is to have fun in this game, coming away from a lost game where you indicate all the blame onto your teammates will probably leave you with a shittier feeling than thinking something along the lines of "well, we made mistakes, but there are a couple of things i could learn from / improve on in that game" I feel its just that if you're losing your game then obviously someone made some mistakes. And people just don't want to accept that they fucked up so they blame others. Then they start making a habit of it the more the play. I feel when I started out playing with other newbies everyone was just way more polite and nice to each other. But as they play more they get into the habit of raging and generally develop a bad attitude towards teammates. Although I do find that if you make an effort to be nice and co-operative from the start, usually people do reciprocate the attitude. Its just that nobody is willing to do that. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
What's so special about it? | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
On February 05 2012 16:24 UniversalSnip wrote: divide by 210 = number of inches Can we put this in the quote thread?! XD | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On February 05 2012 18:33 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: Can we put this in the quote thread?! XD My sekrit .txt file is up to 5 quotes now. I think I'll start the thread when I have 20 or so, then it won't get raped for no content. PS: If there are any glorious quotes in one of the LP channels, make sure to shout it out here or via PM. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 05 2012 17:59 TheYango wrote: You still haven't convinced me as to why forcing everyone to post their Elo is better than having posts highlighted. In fact, you've said nothing about that. It'd be stupid as fuck to have elo posted, a very finetuned answer from a 1100 is just as valid from any other elo. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Depends how much you care, moreso than your elo. | ||
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