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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 03:14:01
December 31 2011 03:13 GMT
#321
Is that a Soraka with Guardian Angel o_O That.. that's new. Man, Yorick jungle not stronk enough to win the game.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 31 2011 03:13 GMT
#322
Wish people would stop calling a single champion picks for role XYZ a new "meta"
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
December 31 2011 03:14 GMT
#323
Rofl, 1/11/x hotshot real feeder.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 03:19:19
December 31 2011 03:15 GMT
#324
MiG looking to take another loss due to playing too low deeps comp overall.

well too tired for grand finals, 5am and stuffs, hitting da sack. Hopefully there's gonna be a vod of the finals somewhere.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 03:22:16
December 31 2011 03:21 GMT
#325
On December 31 2011 12:13 daemir wrote:
Wish people would stop calling a single champion picks for role XYZ a new "meta"

Wish people were capable of reading.

a) I was joking because said meta mainly relies on ultimates vaporizing while you right click next to something. Singed ultimate does nothing of that sort, yet it's something that let's you run at people faster while pressing R.
b) I never said jungle Singed was part of said meta or a good pick.
c) ???
d) profit.
currently rooting for myself.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 31 2011 03:27 GMT
#326
Is there a limit to how many ads you can play per hour? It seems reasonable to have one to prevent abuse.

And it's not like the only two choices are "ban Hotshot" and "allow people to spam ads while afk". There are plenty of other solutions, like supporting more targeted advertising so that advertisers can ask for their ads not to be shown on certain streams, something like Pandora that asks if you're still watching after a while, and so on. Hell I'm pretty sure Hotshot would stop streaming afk ads if own3d just sent him a stern email.

It's really not a big deal, although I can't really blame Boss guy for blowing it up since no one would care otherwise.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
December 31 2011 03:37 GMT
#327
I'm thinking of picking up a new AP - looking at cass/kennen. Before I do tho, is either of them in any danger of getting hit by nerfs?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 31 2011 03:39 GMT
#328
On December 31 2011 10:56 TieN.nS) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 10:51 Abenson wrote:
So about the whole elo-hell thing...
I'm not sure if it actually exists. I have an account that I share with friends that we dodged to 800 elo, and I have managed to hard carry all of my games there.
Yet when I read the people's angry comments on the Shikyo QQ thread, I feel like they're experiencing something I have (fortunately) not had to experience.

I want to hear your thought - does elo hell exist?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Also a lot of people feel like they are undeserving of their Elo because they do fine in a higher Elo, but don't realize that having the skillset for doing fine there is different from having the ability to carry yourself up there.

Basically, if you're at 1200 and you think you're actually 1500, then don't play like a 1500 in a 1500 game, play like a 1500 in a 1200 game.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
December 31 2011 03:40 GMT
#329
Are we sure that that these companies are buying advertising based on views? I work in online advertising and we sell ads on a cost-per-click model. Pros and Cons to both, but I know that my advertisers would be more pissed About me showing Ads to 4k people who had a stream muted and minimized than they would About some guy afk streaming Ads while people were actually watching.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 31 2011 03:41 GMT
#330
On December 31 2011 12:37 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I'm thinking of picking up a new AP - looking at cass/kennen. Before I do tho, is either of them in any danger of getting hit by nerfs?

Kennen is more likely to be nerfed than Cass. I think nerfs to WotA are pretty much guaranteed. If you do pick up Kennen, don't be one of the FotM people who flash in and press R and think they're good because they got kills. Learn to play him right.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
December 31 2011 03:41 GMT
#331
Kennen is the champion of this tournament so far, haven't seen a game where he has lost yet. Double WoTA is probably putting him in the flavour of the month though.

Cass should be fairly safe to buy, she's very strong but most people can't play her so there isn't any much forum qq.
Go go Alliance.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
December 31 2011 03:46 GMT
#332
On December 31 2011 12:39 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 10:56 TieN.nS) wrote:
On December 31 2011 10:51 Abenson wrote:
So about the whole elo-hell thing...
I'm not sure if it actually exists. I have an account that I share with friends that we dodged to 800 elo, and I have managed to hard carry all of my games there.
Yet when I read the people's angry comments on the Shikyo QQ thread, I feel like they're experiencing something I have (fortunately) not had to experience.

I want to hear your thought - does elo hell exist?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Also a lot of people feel like they are undeserving of their Elo because they do fine in a higher Elo, but don't realize that having the skillset for doing fine there is different from having the ability to carry yourself up there.

Basically, if you're at 1200 and you think you're actually 1500, then don't play like a 1500 in a 1500 game, play like a 1500 in a 1200 game.


what do you mean by play like a 1500 in a 1200? does that mean pick only carries and be more agressive than you should against a good opponet because you can just outplay or does that mean ward for others and make all the calls?
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
December 31 2011 03:47 GMT
#333
On December 31 2011 12:39 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 10:56 TieN.nS) wrote:
On December 31 2011 10:51 Abenson wrote:
So about the whole elo-hell thing...
I'm not sure if it actually exists. I have an account that I share with friends that we dodged to 800 elo, and I have managed to hard carry all of my games there.
Yet when I read the people's angry comments on the Shikyo QQ thread, I feel like they're experiencing something I have (fortunately) not had to experience.

I want to hear your thought - does elo hell exist?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Also a lot of people feel like they are undeserving of their Elo because they do fine in a higher Elo, but don't realize that having the skillset for doing fine there is different from having the ability to carry yourself up there.

Basically, if you're at 1200 and you think you're actually 1500, then don't play like a 1500 in a 1500 game, play like a 1500 in a 1200 game.


Yes, that's part of it as well. Being able to play support barely well enough for people to not yell at you in a high elo game doesn't mean that you play at that level, lol.
RyuChus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada442 Posts
December 31 2011 03:54 GMT
#334
Personally I tend to build Viktor like this. Boots 3hppots, Roa, Ionian boots for CDR, AugmentDeath, Rabadon's, Rylais, and last item is either QSS if they have good CC, basically anything tanky.

Early laning phase in mid, tends to be somewhat of a challenge. Frequent ganks from jungler helps a lot. You really have to be agressive with the shield you get from the Power Transfer, but if you're up against a Ranged AD carry, expect to lose the lane, or just be extremely under farmed. The range on his Q is just way too low. If you're up against Annie, she can really just wreck you with her own Q, and the aoe spell. Especially if she stuns you. Not the greatest laner imo. Although I haven't tried maxing Death Ray first, I always max Power Transfer, I don't know if that'll make him better or worse. I'll have to try sometime.
I have an announcement to make, "Moo!" That is all.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 31 2011 03:56 GMT
#335
On December 31 2011 12:41 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 12:37 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I'm thinking of picking up a new AP - looking at cass/kennen. Before I do tho, is either of them in any danger of getting hit by nerfs?

Kennen is more likely to be nerfed than Cass. I think nerfs to WotA are pretty much guaranteed. If you do pick up Kennen, don't be one of the FotM people who flash in and press R and think they're good because they got kills. Learn to play him right.

I swore, I was one of the first to abuse the living shit out of WotA, like 4 months ago. It was simply too good, especially if another teammate grabbed a 2nd one. I think it probably became more apparent as more people started using wota, since gunblade nerf, perhaps?
liftlift > tsm
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 31 2011 03:58 GMT
#336
On December 24 2011 14:21 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 14:09 overt wrote:
On December 24 2011 13:57 UniversalSnip wrote:
Lots of ap tanky guys can at least sorta jungle now, I jungled with singed the other day... and started doran's shield... and it was still good, very fast clearing and didn't go low. Lots of people still stuck in the old jungle mindset I think, there's tons of nonstandard stuff left to discover with all these big changes.

Just cause those champs can jungle doesn't mean they should. Cho'gath could always jungle but considering how strong lane Cho is it never made sense to jungle. I would think the same would apply to any APs who can possibly jungle now.


it doesn't matter if they're good laners, if cho was as good a jungler as the other jungles at the time he'd get picked both lane and jungle. You'd just be picking them for either role instead of only one.


Don't wanna be like 'I told you so' but chaox talking up jungle singed right now on stream with almost 20,000 viewers, instant fotm.

There are TONS of good junglers now that people weren't putting in there before, people who try out and discover unconventional junglers are going to have an advantage for quite a while going forwards.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 31 2011 03:59 GMT
#337
On December 31 2011 12:56 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 12:41 starfries wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:37 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I'm thinking of picking up a new AP - looking at cass/kennen. Before I do tho, is either of them in any danger of getting hit by nerfs?

Kennen is more likely to be nerfed than Cass. I think nerfs to WotA are pretty much guaranteed. If you do pick up Kennen, don't be one of the FotM people who flash in and press R and think they're good because they got kills. Learn to play him right.

I swore, I was one of the first to abuse the living shit out of WotA, like 4 months ago. It was simply too good, especially if another teammate grabbed a 2nd one. I think it probably became more apparent as more people started using wota, since gunblade nerf, perhaps?


It's been broken ever since the revolver buff.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 31 2011 03:59 GMT
#338
On December 31 2011 12:46 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 12:39 starfries wrote:
On December 31 2011 10:56 TieN.nS) wrote:
On December 31 2011 10:51 Abenson wrote:
So about the whole elo-hell thing...
I'm not sure if it actually exists. I have an account that I share with friends that we dodged to 800 elo, and I have managed to hard carry all of my games there.
Yet when I read the people's angry comments on the Shikyo QQ thread, I feel like they're experiencing something I have (fortunately) not had to experience.

I want to hear your thought - does elo hell exist?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Also a lot of people feel like they are undeserving of their Elo because they do fine in a higher Elo, but don't realize that having the skillset for doing fine there is different from having the ability to carry yourself up there.

Basically, if you're at 1200 and you think you're actually 1500, then don't play like a 1500 in a 1500 game, play like a 1500 in a 1200 game.


what do you mean by play like a 1500 in a 1200? does that mean pick only carries and be more agressive than you should against a good opponet because you can just outplay or does that mean ward for others and make all the calls?

You can pick whatever you want to. It doesn't necessarily mean play aggressively, more like decisively. Capitalize on mistakes that 1200 players make that 1500 players wouldn't, and punish every mistake you see. The easiest way to "outplay" your opponent is not through fancy tricks but to just let them outplay themselves. Give them as many opportunities to make mistakes as possible, and as soon as they mess up, punish them.

I guess that applies at all Elos, but if you're a 1200 in a 1500 game, you'll probably end up getting baited most of the time lol
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
deskscaress
Profile Joined May 2011
United States399 Posts
December 31 2011 04:02 GMT
#339
On December 31 2011 12:39 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 10:56 TieN.nS) wrote:
On December 31 2011 10:51 Abenson wrote:
So about the whole elo-hell thing...
I'm not sure if it actually exists. I have an account that I share with friends that we dodged to 800 elo, and I have managed to hard carry all of my games there.
Yet when I read the people's angry comments on the Shikyo QQ thread, I feel like they're experiencing something I have (fortunately) not had to experience.

I want to hear your thought - does elo hell exist?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Also a lot of people feel like they are undeserving of their Elo because they do fine in a higher Elo, but don't realize that having the skillset for doing fine there is different from having the ability to carry yourself up there.

Basically, if you're at 1200 and you think you're actually 1500, then don't play like a 1500 in a 1500 game, play like a 1500 in a 1200 game.


wow, that was really really well-worded and i agree completely
the game is completely different at 1200 from 1500 and from 1900. if you afk jungle at 1200 you might be the most farmed person in your game but still be down 30 kills because the enemy jungler only ganks and takes his buffs on respawn. whereas if you tried only ganking at 1900 you'd be a lot less successful than only afk farming because people ward a lot better etc

nice insight bro, +1
would you ever miss it?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
December 31 2011 04:06 GMT
#340
Inconsistency is the hallmark of low elo.
twitch.tv/cratonz
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