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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
November 10 2011 08:56 GMT
#2721
On November 10 2011 17:42 mel_ee wrote:
below the 1500 ELO range, I see people still bitch if they dont get Mid or w/e and just AFK. its this type of gameplay where I think ELO hell is. Never been above 1530+ but it seems like past this stage atleast people pick right comps or dont afk on purpose. unless of course... i am wrong.

Not. An. Acronym.

And yes, you're wrong. You usually get standard comps, but people troll and rage/afk the same as any Elo.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 08:56:24
November 10 2011 08:56 GMT
#2722
On November 10 2011 17:31 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 17:25 mel_ee wrote:
wow.. i wonder how much they play a day to get ELO to climb. from the looks of it .. 1500+ seems to be non "elo hell"


You'd be surprised how much 1600-1800 people suck.


Case in point, me.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 09:09:32
November 10 2011 09:08 GMT
#2723
There's a big skill gap in general between someone playing one champ to the next, in any event. Your Elo reflects the average level of what you play, which means you're going to have some champs you can carry with every game and others you suck a fat one with. Since the system doesn't account for how good (or bad) someone is with a given champion, its quite common to have a player who sucks on the champ they're playing, regardless of how high their Elo is.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 09:15:12
November 10 2011 09:13 GMT
#2724
My top 3 is Lee sin with 38 games played at 50% winrate (eveyr time I pick lee sin I get massively trolled iunno why). Then Udyr with 29 games played at 62% winrate. Then Pantheon with 27 games played at 66% winrate. My Singed is most impressive though at fourth with 25 games played with 80% winrate ^_^.
On November 10 2011 18:08 Craton wrote:
There's a big skill gap in general between someone playing one champ to the next, in any event. Your Elo reflects the average level of what you play, which means you're going to have some champs you can carry with every game and others you suck a fat one with. Since the system doesn't account for how good (or bad) someone is with a given champion, its quite common to have a player who sucks on the champ they're playing, regardless of how high their Elo is.

You'd be surprised at how many people suck with the champ that they "main." Take Kmax9 for example. Plays almost exclusively mundo, but I've never ever seen him win a game whenever I've played with him. Stubborn fucker that never listens and always rambos. Negative average KDR too. I honestly have no freaking clue how he even gets to 1500. Then again, he ended season 1 as a bronzie so he probably just gets lucky streaks.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
November 10 2011 09:14 GMT
#2725
Elo ELO, bleh. I prefer reading ELO. Elo looks weird to me.
ô¿ô
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#2726
Udyr : 68 games, 54% win ratio
GP : 30 games, 60% win ratio
Lee Sin : 10 games, 80% win ratio

The lower you go, the higher the win ratio :D
Sion gets 8 games and 7 wins, my AD carries all got 1 or 2 games and 100% wins, my Amumu has 100% wins... And all my support have ZERO wins, except 1 with Ali :D
The legend of Darien lives on
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
November 10 2011 09:26 GMT
#2727
devil jax sending noobs back where they belong
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DrKlingmann
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland356 Posts
November 10 2011 09:41 GMT
#2728
Had 19/2 Noct on season 1 (1600-1800 EU ELO) at some point :-P Not even tryharding him then and playing those games throughout few months (not a streak and I didn't main him). Felt good :D
--- EUNE Jarpen ---
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
November 10 2011 09:48 GMT
#2729
Nocturne is easy mode in solo Q.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
November 10 2011 10:33 GMT
#2730
I'm 37-9 with Janna overall. #1 shields.
twitch.tv/cratonz
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 10 2011 13:04 GMT
#2731
On November 10 2011 19:33 Craton wrote:
I'm 37-9 with Janna overall. #1 shields.

im 100% get at me
+ Show Spoiler +
ignoring the fact i only have 4 games
:)
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
November 10 2011 13:09 GMT
#2732
The thread note is so necessary IMO
Everyone needs a nemesis.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 10 2011 13:33 GMT
#2733
On November 10 2011 17:32 Craton wrote:
Elo is a name, not an acronym.

Doesn't stop me from TYPING ELO WITH CAPSLOCK ON.

If you play (seriously) a champ the majority of your games , your winratio on that champ will eventually be relatively close to 50% no matter what. Even if you are a lot better with that champ than your average skill.
Unless you intentionally only play that champ every other game, and drop all the games in which you play different champs...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
November 10 2011 13:34 GMT
#2734
actually it's Élő but you don't even have the letters for it

poor people
And all is illuminated.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 10 2011 13:36 GMT
#2735
I used to have a lot of 100% win rates but then I played with tap T_T

But in all seriousness you're entirely right, craton. There are so many factors that go into elo. Remember when westrice could only play akali at 2k lvl? Stuff like that exists in all Elo brackets with all people. For example I play Olaf at around a 300 elo level. :D
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
November 10 2011 13:37 GMT
#2736
On November 10 2011 22:33 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 17:32 Craton wrote:
Elo is a name, not an acronym.

Doesn't stop me from TYPING ELO WITH CAPSLOCK ON.

If you play (seriously) a champ the majority of your games , your winratio on that champ will eventually be relatively close to 50% no matter what. Even if you are a lot better with that champ than your average skill.
Unless you intentionally only play that champ every other game, and drop all the games in which you play different champs...

Nobody plays a single champ that much when they actually have a lot of games played, though.
twitch.tv/cratonz
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
November 10 2011 13:38 GMT
#2737
how is that possible :D

if you suck at throwing axes, then just level his true damage stuff
And all is illuminated.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 10 2011 14:15 GMT
#2738
I had good ratios until I went 0-6 with Nidalee. I need to stop practicing new champs in solo queue.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 10 2011 14:33 GMT
#2739
On November 10 2011 22:37 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 22:33 spinesheath wrote:
On November 10 2011 17:32 Craton wrote:
Elo is a name, not an acronym.

Doesn't stop me from TYPING ELO WITH CAPSLOCK ON.

If you play (seriously) a champ the majority of your games , your winratio on that champ will eventually be relatively close to 50% no matter what. Even if you are a lot better with that champ than your average skill.
Unless you intentionally only play that champ every other game, and drop all the games in which you play different champs...

Nobody plays a single champ that much when they actually have a lot of games played, though.

You should check out the profiles of the people you play with more often.

There are plenty of people at all elo ranges who only really play 1 champion, and suck with everything else. It's not unusual for them to suck with their main champion, too.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
November 10 2011 14:41 GMT
#2740
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/m6zrv/iama_wrenchmen_for_lol_amaa/c2yop44

someone wants you nerdbear
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