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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 29 2011 04:21 GMT
#2801
On October 29 2011 12:30 HeroHenry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 11:52 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
Shaco's gonna absolutely RAPE low levels now, dunno about higher elos but oh my GOD that reliable fear is going to be a fuckin heart breaker

Shaco is already rape at low lvls.


From something (Tamat? Morello?) said, it sounds like his clone is now also going to apply the slow effect (I don't think it did before...).
Honestly I thought Shaco was in a decent place before, but this is a pretty drastic buff. Yeah his JitBs were still a little lacking in that sometimes the fear went off and they didn't attack but that could've been fixed without all out buffing him. It DOES look like it's easier to stack them in one spot now from the video...I hope that was actually a change.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 29 2011 04:24 GMT
#2802
On October 29 2011 13:14 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 13:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 29 2011 13:03 HazMat wrote:
Is this a cookie problem or something?
[image loading]


Riot's trying to send a message.

Very helpful, thank you Eric.
edit: jk I think they are. I just want to see if I'm off of 3s frontpage yet, LOL.


Front page still, rank 22.
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Azerbaijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 04:43:36
October 29 2011 04:40 GMT
#2803
Olaf changes are kind of confusing. It doesn't seem like a buff but I don't know if I would call it a nerf.

I also thought of Wukong as one of those champions that people kind of labeled as "meh" are just now realizing is pretty strong. I'm not sure I like the buffs, I feel like he already hits like a truck. The decoy fixes are nice though at least until the next time I jump the gun and waste my lee sin ult on one. Then I will be mad.

Graves is stupid and sounds like he still will be. I like how they say he's too much like an AP caster when he's more like an ADcarryBruiserCaster. Nerfs too small in my opinion.

As for shaco I would have thought the sheer unpredictability of his ganks and general mobility put him reasonably in line with other assassins. Boxes are kind of unreliable but I think the buff will be too much. Not a fan.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 29 2011 04:47 GMT
#2804
On October 29 2011 13:03 HazMat wrote:
Is this a cookie problem or something?
[image loading]


Are you trying to go straight to the devtracker? I have the same page there.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 04:51:41
October 29 2011 04:51 GMT
#2805
How do i get out of 1300 ELO ? My teammate are usually consistent of 1+ trolls who auto locks, doesn't get clairvoyance, no AP/no role thats needed in general. Also bms all game then feed then goes afk..
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 29 2011 04:55 GMT
#2806
Neo's 1st name is Eric? I thought it was something that started with J?
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
October 29 2011 05:00 GMT
#2807
On October 29 2011 13:55 ArC_man wrote:
Neo's 1st name is Eric? I thought it was something that started with J?


it's Jeric, eric for short

I'm not sure how I feel about the olaf change. I don't need to CLEANSE cc, I just ult ghost and mash QWEQEQEQEQ until I'm dead. This is just gonna make it harder to 1v5 things late game. Sad.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
October 29 2011 05:13 GMT
#2808
the thing is now opponents are forced to use their cc early on olaf so that he blows his ultimate earlier
before there was always the option of baiting olaf ultimate and then disengaging, which fucked him over kinda hard
now there's less opportunity to do so and more hard engage incentive for both sides which will favor olaf's side in most cases
Hey! Listen!
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 29 2011 05:13 GMT
#2809
On October 29 2011 11:50 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 11:46 TheYango wrote:
On October 29 2011 11:45 UniversalSnip wrote:
Haha, maybe they have other buffs for olaf or the ult duration reduction is tiny, but without knowing the numbers that's a nerf.

Maybe they're just changing the duration scaling from 5-6-8 to 5-6-7.


yeah, that's what I was thinking. That still seems worse though. It only really makes the hero better if you're bad with him though, 99 times out of a hundred you can see cc coming.


The fact is now you can hold off on using the ult until you need it, which is huge. Now you FORCE someone to waste their CC on you (because if they don't you don't waste your ult, and can continue to eat their faces) which you can then cleanse and then be immune to. This is going to be crippling to low-CC teams and still a not-insignificant annoyance to heavy-CC teams.

It's not like you can just let Olaf auto attack all day while trying to focus him down because he has such insane innate sustain from his W but now that he doesn't have to "waste" his ult early he will overall be much harder to deal with.

Food for Thought: Will it work like Remove Scurvy and remove all forms of CC including Suppression?
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
October 29 2011 05:17 GMT
#2810
Won't work on Jarvan ultimate, Demacia!
3.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 29 2011 05:24 GMT
#2811
yeah you're right it is better.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 29 2011 06:01 GMT
#2812
so ranked 5s for me is, play 1500 teams till 1700 elo, then run into chauster, then back down to 1650
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
October 29 2011 06:08 GMT
#2813
On October 29 2011 15:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so ranked 5s for me is, play 1500 teams till 1700 elo, then run into chauster, then back down to 1650


a thousand people just saw your 20 minute surrender to AP kog and AP lee sin!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 29 2011 06:37 GMT
#2814
Loco trying to hard to steal Chauster's ranked 5s Elo
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locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
October 29 2011 06:45 GMT
#2815
On October 29 2011 15:37 HazMat wrote:
Loco trying to hard to steal Chauster's ranked 5s Elo

NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM
i wish riot would give me better ping
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 29 2011 06:46 GMT
#2816
See Chauster queue with bigfatmissy.

Queue snipe and tryhard.
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 29 2011 06:57 GMT
#2817
I just had the pimpest play of my LoL career, need to share.

So it was Alistar (me) and Graves bottom against Ashe and Malphite. Now right away we have a pretty big advantage I'd say, so no underdog story here. Graves is kind of bad though, missing a lot of creeps, and taking more damage than he should. They're doing what they can, but he's shot-gunning like a madman.

Eventually at level 4 we got first blood on Ashe, but Graves died too. So it's just me and Malphite. I thought I'd harass him a bit before his shield went up, Headbutt him into a wall and Pulverize, then he starts hitting back and I realize I've made a mistake; he can take me easily. So I start running back, getting pretty low actually, maybe 2 hits from dying, still a ways from the turret.

Then I had a little burst of insight, and flashed away from my tower, behind Malphite, and headbutted him into it. He would have been fine (Flash away and he would have lived), but at the same time Graves teleported back in and came from behind to complete the sandwich of death. Malphite instantly left the game.
I am the Town Medic.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 29 2011 07:03 GMT
#2818
On October 29 2011 13:51 RogerX wrote:
How do i get out of 1300 ELO ? My teammate are usually consistent of 1+ trolls who auto locks, doesn't get clairvoyance, no AP/no role thats needed in general. Also bms all game then feed then goes afk..


Play a jungler with a strong level 2 gank. I've been having much success with them at lower ELO. Whatever lane you gank at level 2 will be rolling, you will be rolling, and then you can focus on ganking the other lanes, which will get everyone rolling.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 29 2011 07:22 GMT
#2819
How the hell can people say you should get gp10 when you're freefarming. Unless you're planning to build it into something never ever get it. If you actually plan to build it into something then you should always get it early.
If you're not sure if you want to build it into anything don't fucking get it. "Oh I'm freefarming I'm getting free gold, I better waste it on an item that takes 24minutes to be profitable"
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 29 2011 07:30 GMT
#2820
Please stop baiting another gp/10 discussion.

Quick, talbuk and brees talk Twilight.
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