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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 19 2011 18:37 GMT
#261
On October 20 2011 03:25 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 03:18 Craton wrote:
On October 20 2011 01:30 Cytokinesis wrote:
I have no clue how people can play 1 or 2 heroes for games on end. It gets soooooo repetitive.

I can see playing certain champions a lot in high stakes games, but there are people with like 1500 ranked games as the same champ in solo queue.

see kmax9
i don't understand---

Eh, I'll play the same champ over and over for a couple dozen games (currently with Ezreal) or more. I have my "mains" that I probably won't change, but I'll pick up a champion and mess around for a few days before dropping them. Ez and Riven really fit my playstyle, so those are the ones I stick with. I can't get into a champ that has a weird playstyle to me. I can't stand mages, for instance.
It's your boy Guzma!
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
October 19 2011 18:40 GMT
#262
On October 20 2011 03:37 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 03:25 unichan wrote:
On October 20 2011 03:18 Craton wrote:
On October 20 2011 01:30 Cytokinesis wrote:
I have no clue how people can play 1 or 2 heroes for games on end. It gets soooooo repetitive.

I can see playing certain champions a lot in high stakes games, but there are people with like 1500 ranked games as the same champ in solo queue.

see kmax9
i don't understand---

Eh, I'll play the same champ over and over for a couple dozen games (currently with Ezreal) or more. I have my "mains" that I probably won't change, but I'll pick up a champion and mess around for a few days before dropping them. Ez and Riven really fit my playstyle, so those are the ones I stick with. I can't get into a champ that has a weird playstyle to me. I can't stand mages, for instance.

kmax9 plays the same champ over and over for a couple dozen games
a couple dozen times
and a couple dozen times that
When I first discovered how fun alistar was on dominion because you could get fun items with him I got my first full same champ page since like when I first started playing.
:)
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 19 2011 18:40 GMT
#263
Here's a question for you higher level players and those better at math then I:

At what point is it better to take HP/lvl seals over flat Armor in the jungle? There are a few junglers who can manage their first clear using HP/lvl instead of flat armor (WW and Phoenix Udyr come to mind immediately) and these guys generally build fairly tanky in the first place.

Health seals are inherently more flexible then armor seals too since they boost survivability from all sources of damage instead of just physical, so is there a point (or a subset of champions) where HP/lvl seals might be considered better then flat armor?
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 19 2011 18:41 GMT
#264
wtf is this state of the league show, they even stole day9s bedroom?!?! so confused :D
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 19 2011 18:45 GMT
#265
On October 20 2011 03:17 Phrost wrote:
So apparently MLG Providence will feature LoL again (if you read into Rinoa and Sundance's tweets)

They just better have an online qualifier so I can make Smash carry me into the competition.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
October 19 2011 18:48 GMT
#266
most junglers with some inherent form of sustain (healing, shields, etc) scale better off of armor in the first place because of the way those stats work with mitigation; they don't scale off of additional HP but with defensive stats like armor.

just because you can manage without it doesn't mean that its better without it; i know that ww goes much lower on his first clear without armor seals than with (probably 30-40% hp on red as compared to 50%+ with)
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 18:51:07
October 19 2011 18:50 GMT
#267
Here's the tl;dr for v8:

Phantom pulled together a team and they qualified for IEM and were given a free spot in IPL. Teams banned out Phantom during qualifiers and team is like 'we really need to learn more champs.' According to Tree, rest of team starts playing solo queue a lot to learn new champs (at the last minute I guess) and Phantom doesn't 'cause he's too busy trying to get team publicity/sponsors.

v8 gets to IPL and they all play like shit. (Fuck what both sides say, I watched the games; they all played like ass.) Phantom says w/e we all played like shit and that he was too nervous at IPL. Rest of team blames loss entirely on Phantom and decide they're going to bench Phantom.

Phantom's basically "fuck that, I put this team together and got the sponsors, etc." According to Phantom, TakashiX (who they wanted to replace him with) hadn't played in any of the scrims or qualifier games up to that point. Both sides pretty much agree that the rest of the team had already locked in their decision to bench Phantom prior to actually talking to him (which is a pretty dick move). Tree states Phantom was too unwilling to learn from his mistakes or try to improve, which is why they wanted to replace him. Tree also basically said Phantom has a dick personality.

Now, the real dick move is that the team didn't bother manning up and actually clarifying to Phantom that they were sticking to this decision, so they're literally about to sit down and play when they finally tell him they're not using him.

Frankly, I think they're all jackoffs for the situation. If Phantom actually was a dick then I understand not wanting to be on a team with him. This, however, is something you would know long before going out and finding a sponsor and attending a live event. If you have personality issues, then you deal with it well before that time. Further, you don't act like little whiny bitches and refuse to talk to your teammate. "We couldn't find a good time to tell him." Man up.
twitch.tv/cratonz
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 19 2011 19:09 GMT
#268
On October 20 2011 03:50 Craton wrote:
Here's the tl;dr for v8:

Phantom pulled together a team and they qualified for IEM and were given a free spot in IPL. Teams banned out Phantom during qualifiers and team is like 'we really need to learn more champs.' According to Tree, rest of team starts playing solo queue a lot to learn new champs (at the last minute I guess) and Phantom doesn't 'cause he's too busy trying to get team publicity/sponsors.

v8 gets to IPL and they all play like shit. (Fuck what both sides say, I watched the games; they all played like ass.) Phantom says w/e we all played like shit and that he was too nervous at IPL. Rest of team blames loss entirely on Phantom and decide they're going to bench Phantom.

Phantom's basically "fuck that, I put this team together and got the sponsors, etc." According to Phantom, TakashiX (who they wanted to replace him with) hadn't played in any of the scrims or qualifier games up to that point. Both sides pretty much agree that the rest of the team had already locked in their decision to bench Phantom prior to actually talking to him (which is a pretty dick move). Tree states Phantom was too unwilling to learn from his mistakes or try to improve, which is why they wanted to replace him. Tree also basically said Phantom has a dick personality.

Now, the real dick move is that the team didn't bother manning up and actually clarifying to Phantom that they were sticking to this decision, so they're literally about to sit down and play when they finally tell him they're not using him.

Frankly, I think they're all jackoffs for the situation. If Phantom actually was a dick then I understand not wanting to be on a team with him. This, however, is something you would know long before going out and finding a sponsor and attending a live event. If you have personality issues, then you deal with it well before that time. Further, you don't act like little whiny bitches and refuse to talk to your teammate. "We couldn't find a good time to tell him." Man up.


You expect too much from kids(I don't even know their age, but they act like kids so ya). Takashi and Tree have been part of a ton of LoL drama involving little bitch behavior, and they always go public to the general forums with a PR like response to save face, making people think they're really nice dudes... and then they go do something else and repeat the cycle.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 19:16:44
October 19 2011 19:10 GMT
#269
On October 20 2011 03:48 Navi wrote:
most junglers with some inherent form of sustain (healing, shields, etc) scale better off of armor in the first place because of the way those stats work with mitigation; they don't scale off of additional HP but with defensive stats like armor.

just because you can manage without it doesn't mean that its better without it; i know that ww goes much lower on his first clear without armor seals than with (probably 30-40% hp on red as compared to 50%+ with)


Well obviously you go much lower without the armor runes because you're taking more damage at the lower levels. This is not a question aimed at the early game, more towards the later mid and late game. HP/lvl runes are strictly inferior to flat armor runes for jungling but my question is if there is an argument for HP/lvl being superior to flat armor during the other phases of the game, such as teamfights and if that advantage is worth a slightly increased weakness in the jungle on junglers who can survive in the jungle without the aid of armor runes.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 19 2011 19:15 GMT
#270
On October 20 2011 04:09 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 03:50 Craton wrote:
Here's the tl;dr for v8:

Phantom pulled together a team and they qualified for IEM and were given a free spot in IPL. Teams banned out Phantom during qualifiers and team is like 'we really need to learn more champs.' According to Tree, rest of team starts playing solo queue a lot to learn new champs (at the last minute I guess) and Phantom doesn't 'cause he's too busy trying to get team publicity/sponsors.

v8 gets to IPL and they all play like shit. (Fuck what both sides say, I watched the games; they all played like ass.) Phantom says w/e we all played like shit and that he was too nervous at IPL. Rest of team blames loss entirely on Phantom and decide they're going to bench Phantom.

Phantom's basically "fuck that, I put this team together and got the sponsors, etc." According to Phantom, TakashiX (who they wanted to replace him with) hadn't played in any of the scrims or qualifier games up to that point. Both sides pretty much agree that the rest of the team had already locked in their decision to bench Phantom prior to actually talking to him (which is a pretty dick move). Tree states Phantom was too unwilling to learn from his mistakes or try to improve, which is why they wanted to replace him. Tree also basically said Phantom has a dick personality.

Now, the real dick move is that the team didn't bother manning up and actually clarifying to Phantom that they were sticking to this decision, so they're literally about to sit down and play when they finally tell him they're not using him.

Frankly, I think they're all jackoffs for the situation. If Phantom actually was a dick then I understand not wanting to be on a team with him. This, however, is something you would know long before going out and finding a sponsor and attending a live event. If you have personality issues, then you deal with it well before that time. Further, you don't act like little whiny bitches and refuse to talk to your teammate. "We couldn't find a good time to tell him." Man up.


You expect too much from kids(I don't even know their age, but they act like kids so ya). Takashi and Tree have been part of a ton of LoL drama involving little bitch behavior, and they always go public to the general forums with a PR like response to save face, making people think they're really nice dudes... and then they go do something else and repeat the cycle.

It's all a matter of perspective and opinions tbh. What you might think is right/wrong given your own personal circumstances might not be the same for another.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
nFxion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
October 19 2011 19:15 GMT
#271
O: Still want to see Shaco's Q fixed;; Can still see it from Fog of war :<

Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
October 19 2011 19:17 GMT
#272
LoL pro community reminds me of the CS 1.6 cal main/im community lol. Drama filled bunch of babies. Over time they will grow up but since this is a new game and the pro's have never really been in the spotlight before, it just takes time. Right now they have all these kids all over them and they love the Efame (I guess you could say).
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
October 19 2011 19:24 GMT
#273
On October 20 2011 04:15 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 04:09 red_ wrote:
On October 20 2011 03:50 Craton wrote:
Here's the tl;dr for v8:

Phantom pulled together a team and they qualified for IEM and were given a free spot in IPL. Teams banned out Phantom during qualifiers and team is like 'we really need to learn more champs.' According to Tree, rest of team starts playing solo queue a lot to learn new champs (at the last minute I guess) and Phantom doesn't 'cause he's too busy trying to get team publicity/sponsors.

v8 gets to IPL and they all play like shit. (Fuck what both sides say, I watched the games; they all played like ass.) Phantom says w/e we all played like shit and that he was too nervous at IPL. Rest of team blames loss entirely on Phantom and decide they're going to bench Phantom.

Phantom's basically "fuck that, I put this team together and got the sponsors, etc." According to Phantom, TakashiX (who they wanted to replace him with) hadn't played in any of the scrims or qualifier games up to that point. Both sides pretty much agree that the rest of the team had already locked in their decision to bench Phantom prior to actually talking to him (which is a pretty dick move). Tree states Phantom was too unwilling to learn from his mistakes or try to improve, which is why they wanted to replace him. Tree also basically said Phantom has a dick personality.

Now, the real dick move is that the team didn't bother manning up and actually clarifying to Phantom that they were sticking to this decision, so they're literally about to sit down and play when they finally tell him they're not using him.

Frankly, I think they're all jackoffs for the situation. If Phantom actually was a dick then I understand not wanting to be on a team with him. This, however, is something you would know long before going out and finding a sponsor and attending a live event. If you have personality issues, then you deal with it well before that time. Further, you don't act like little whiny bitches and refuse to talk to your teammate. "We couldn't find a good time to tell him." Man up.


You expect too much from kids(I don't even know their age, but they act like kids so ya). Takashi and Tree have been part of a ton of LoL drama involving little bitch behavior, and they always go public to the general forums with a PR like response to save face, making people think they're really nice dudes... and then they go do something else and repeat the cycle.

It's all a matter of perspective and opinions tbh. What you might think is right/wrong given your own personal circumstances might not be the same for another.


its true though tree has always been bitchy, not surprised by the drama, but ofc the vast majority of players think tree is awsome and cool cuz he worked for riot
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 19 2011 19:26 GMT
#274
maybe we should get a drama thread, would be sweet
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
October 19 2011 19:27 GMT
#275
Graves' passive skill caps at 10 stacks, but how much Ar/MR does each stack give him?
Unprotected sex is like fast expanding in close positions. Its risky, but feels great when it works out
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
October 19 2011 19:27 GMT
#276
On October 20 2011 04:15 nFxion wrote:
O: Still want to see Shaco's Q fixed;; Can still see it from Fog of war :<

Intentional.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
October 19 2011 19:27 GMT
#277
On October 20 2011 01:59 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 01:58 mr_tolkien wrote:
On October 20 2011 00:53 r.Evo wrote:


Here's the story from PhantomLords side.


Edit: Listening to it now. lawl. "I DID SO MUCH GOOD MANAGEMENT WORK, I DESERVE TO PLAY CUZ IT IS MY DREAM AFTER ALL!!!"

Edit #2: However, the whole last minute drama is pretty fucking gay. Way to be "professional" from everyone involved.

Even better than the Rylai's Renekton story. Way more touching.


How dare you... you can't beat Renekton f***ing Ashe in front of Tryndamere.

WITH 10.001 fucking corpses in that story too!
currently rooting for myself.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 19 2011 19:28 GMT
#278
On October 20 2011 04:17 Shelke14 wrote:
LoL pro community reminds me of the CS 1.6 cal main/im community lol. Drama filled bunch of babies. Over time they will grow up but since this is a new game and the pro's have never really been in the spotlight before, it just takes time. Right now they have all these kids all over them and they love the Efame (I guess you could say).


It is so entertaining though. This is almost as entertaining as when CLG was bitching at the IEM staff members after they publicly said stuff like, "I hate CLG" and "Fuck Chauster, he's an arrogant douchebag." Culminating in Chauster posting a picture of his muscles with a caption of, "Come at me bro."

I want a picture of Phantom and Tree flexing their biceps.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
October 19 2011 19:32 GMT
#279
I tend to be on Phantom's side in this whole bit of drama. You don't build a team, get a sponsor, and go to a lan, only to change your roster after one day of playing, especially when you're doing it behind that guy's back.

Now, another bit I don't get. Supposedly only Phantom signed the contract with v8 (maybe the others did later, idk). So if Phantom is gone and he's the one with the contract, how the fk can v8 still have that sponsor? If I was in Phantom's position and capable of pulling the sponsorship, I 100% would.
twitch.tv/cratonz
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 19 2011 19:37 GMT
#280
On October 20 2011 04:32 Craton wrote:
I tend to be on Phantom's side in this whole bit of drama. You don't build a team, get a sponsor, and go to a lan, only to change your roster after one day of playing, especially when you're doing it behind that guy's back.

Now, another bit I don't get. Supposedly only Phantom signed the contract with v8 (maybe the others did later, idk). So if Phantom is gone and he's the one with the contract, how the fk can v8 still have that sponsor? If I was in Phantom's position and capable of pulling the sponsorship, I 100% would.


It'd be pretty awesome if he just pulled in a bunch of new people with the sponsor. Especially if his new team beat Tree's team.
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