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On October 20 2011 04:28 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 04:17 Shelke14 wrote:
LoL pro community reminds me of the CS 1.6 cal main/im community lol. Drama filled bunch of babies. Over time they will grow up but since this is a new game and the pro's have never really been in the spotlight before, it just takes time. Right now they have all these kids all over them and they love the Efame (I guess you could say). It is so entertaining though. This is almost as entertaining as when CLG was bitching at the IEM staff members after they publicly said stuff like, "I hate CLG" and "Fuck Chauster, he's an arrogant douchebag." Culminating in Chauster posting a picture of his muscles with a caption of, "Come at me bro." I want a picture of Phantom and Tree flexing their biceps.
What biceps?
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On October 20 2011 04:32 Craton wrote:
I tend to be on Phantom's side in this whole bit of drama. You don't build a team, get a sponsor, and go to a lan, only to change your roster after one day of playing, especially when you're doing it behind that guy's back.
Now, another bit I don't get. Supposedly only Phantom signed the contract with v8 (maybe the others did later, idk). So if Phantom is gone and he's the one with the contract, how the fk can v8 still have that sponsor? If I was in Phantom's position and capable of pulling the sponsorship, I 100% would.
Obviously both sides are at fault (to what extent, we can't really conclude), but what boggles my mind is...why would you go to a tournament and only know how to play 1-2 champions?
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On October 20 2011 04:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 04:28 overt wrote:On October 20 2011 04:17 Shelke14 wrote:
LoL pro community reminds me of the CS 1.6 cal main/im community lol. Drama filled bunch of babies. Over time they will grow up but since this is a new game and the pro's have never really been in the spotlight before, it just takes time. Right now they have all these kids all over them and they love the Efame (I guess you could say). It is so entertaining though. This is almost as entertaining as when CLG was bitching at the IEM staff members after they publicly said stuff like, "I hate CLG" and "Fuck Chauster, he's an arrogant douchebag." Culminating in Chauster posting a picture of his muscles with a caption of, "Come at me bro." I want a picture of Phantom and Tree flexing their biceps. What biceps?
These biceps?
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On October 20 2011 04:40 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 04:37 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 20 2011 04:28 overt wrote:On October 20 2011 04:17 Shelke14 wrote:
LoL pro community reminds me of the CS 1.6 cal main/im community lol. Drama filled bunch of babies. Over time they will grow up but since this is a new game and the pro's have never really been in the spotlight before, it just takes time. Right now they have all these kids all over them and they love the Efame (I guess you could say). It is so entertaining though. This is almost as entertaining as when CLG was bitching at the IEM staff members after they publicly said stuff like, "I hate CLG" and "Fuck Chauster, he's an arrogant douchebag." Culminating in Chauster posting a picture of his muscles with a caption of, "Come at me bro." I want a picture of Phantom and Tree flexing their biceps. What biceps? These biceps?
LoL I meant Phantom/Tree.
Have you seen those guys?
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On October 20 2011 04:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 04:40 JBright wrote:On October 20 2011 04:37 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 20 2011 04:28 overt wrote:On October 20 2011 04:17 Shelke14 wrote:
LoL pro community reminds me of the CS 1.6 cal main/im community lol. Drama filled bunch of babies. Over time they will grow up but since this is a new game and the pro's have never really been in the spotlight before, it just takes time. Right now they have all these kids all over them and they love the Efame (I guess you could say). It is so entertaining though. This is almost as entertaining as when CLG was bitching at the IEM staff members after they publicly said stuff like, "I hate CLG" and "Fuck Chauster, he's an arrogant douchebag." Culminating in Chauster posting a picture of his muscles with a caption of, "Come at me bro." I want a picture of Phantom and Tree flexing their biceps. What biceps? These biceps? LoL I meant Phantom/Tree. Have you seen those guys?
How old is Tree? The guy looks like he hasn't hit puberty yet.
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On October 20 2011 04:42 Sandster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 04:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 20 2011 04:40 JBright wrote:On October 20 2011 04:37 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 20 2011 04:28 overt wrote:On October 20 2011 04:17 Shelke14 wrote:
LoL pro community reminds me of the CS 1.6 cal main/im community lol. Drama filled bunch of babies. Over time they will grow up but since this is a new game and the pro's have never really been in the spotlight before, it just takes time. Right now they have all these kids all over them and they love the Efame (I guess you could say). It is so entertaining though. This is almost as entertaining as when CLG was bitching at the IEM staff members after they publicly said stuff like, "I hate CLG" and "Fuck Chauster, he's an arrogant douchebag." Culminating in Chauster posting a picture of his muscles with a caption of, "Come at me bro." I want a picture of Phantom and Tree flexing their biceps. What biceps? These biceps? LoL I meant Phantom/Tree. Have you seen those guys? How old is Tree? The guy looks like he hasn't hit puberty yet.
21
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On October 20 2011 04:39 Sandster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 04:32 Craton wrote:
I tend to be on Phantom's side in this whole bit of drama. You don't build a team, get a sponsor, and go to a lan, only to change your roster after one day of playing, especially when you're doing it behind that guy's back.
Now, another bit I don't get. Supposedly only Phantom signed the contract with v8 (maybe the others did later, idk). So if Phantom is gone and he's the one with the contract, how the fk can v8 still have that sponsor? If I was in Phantom's position and capable of pulling the sponsorship, I 100% would. Obviously both sides are at fault (to what extent, we can't really conclude), but what boggles my mind is...why would you go to a tournament and only know how to play 1-2 champions?
There's a difference being knowing how to play a champion and knowing how to play them at a tournament caliber.
Also, from what I've seen, Graves does way too much damage.
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On October 20 2011 04:09 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 03:50 Craton wrote:
Here's the tl;dr for v8:
Phantom pulled together a team and they qualified for IEM and were given a free spot in IPL. Teams banned out Phantom during qualifiers and team is like 'we really need to learn more champs.' According to Tree, rest of team starts playing solo queue a lot to learn new champs (at the last minute I guess) and Phantom doesn't 'cause he's too busy trying to get team publicity/sponsors.
v8 gets to IPL and they all play like shit. (Fuck what both sides say, I watched the games; they all played like ass.) Phantom says w/e we all played like shit and that he was too nervous at IPL. Rest of team blames loss entirely on Phantom and decide they're going to bench Phantom.
Phantom's basically "fuck that, I put this team together and got the sponsors, etc." According to Phantom, TakashiX (who they wanted to replace him with) hadn't played in any of the scrims or qualifier games up to that point. Both sides pretty much agree that the rest of the team had already locked in their decision to bench Phantom prior to actually talking to him (which is a pretty dick move). Tree states Phantom was too unwilling to learn from his mistakes or try to improve, which is why they wanted to replace him. Tree also basically said Phantom has a dick personality.
Now, the real dick move is that the team didn't bother manning up and actually clarifying to Phantom that they were sticking to this decision, so they're literally about to sit down and play when they finally tell him they're not using him.
Frankly, I think they're all jackoffs for the situation. If Phantom actually was a dick then I understand not wanting to be on a team with him. This, however, is something you would know long before going out and finding a sponsor and attending a live event. If you have personality issues, then you deal with it well before that time. Further, you don't act like little whiny bitches and refuse to talk to your teammate. "We couldn't find a good time to tell him." Man up.
You expect too much from kids(I don't even know their age, but they act like kids so ya). Takashi and Tree have been part of a ton of LoL drama involving little bitch behavior, and they always go public to the general forums with a PR like response to save face, making people think they're really nice dudes... and then they go do something else and repeat the cycle.
Eski and Taka are pretty nice dudes IRL, and idk who wouldn't try to present their side of the story after the other party makes a public statement against you.
They are also 21 and I consider them, and rest of v8 as kids (rest of v8 younger for the most part afaik), mostly based on me being 21 and I consider myself a kid when it comes to important decisions.
Even for a "kid" it's pretty big of Eski to pretty much take all the flak for what was a unanimous team decision.
The IPL loss wasn't really attributed to Plord, but their extremely limited selection of team strategies was. There is clearly something wrong if they couldn't have a productive team discussion before IEM, and that problem is not necessarily that everyone except phantom is a "little whiny bitch." Regardless, it looks like the drama is resolved, even if not everyone is happy about it.
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On October 20 2011 04:17 Shelke14 wrote:
LoL pro community reminds me of the CS 1.6 cal main/im community lol. Drama filled bunch of babies. Over time they will grow up but since this is a new game and the pro's have never really been in the spotlight before, it just takes time. Right now they have all these kids all over them and they love the Efame (I guess you could say).
Drama has always been a part of Esports just as much as any other major sport. Like it, or not it's still a big part of why people watch.
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On October 20 2011 04:49 Craton wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 04:39 Sandster wrote:On October 20 2011 04:32 Craton wrote:
I tend to be on Phantom's side in this whole bit of drama. You don't build a team, get a sponsor, and go to a lan, only to change your roster after one day of playing, especially when you're doing it behind that guy's back.
Now, another bit I don't get. Supposedly only Phantom signed the contract with v8 (maybe the others did later, idk). So if Phantom is gone and he's the one with the contract, how the fk can v8 still have that sponsor? If I was in Phantom's position and capable of pulling the sponsorship, I 100% would. Obviously both sides are at fault (to what extent, we can't really conclude), but what boggles my mind is...why would you go to a tournament and only know how to play 1-2 champions? There's a difference being knowing how to play a champion and knowing how to play them at a tournament caliber. Also, from what I've seen, Graves does way too much damage.
80% attack speed bonus on his dash is uh... pretty surreal. And that aoe... haha.
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On October 20 2011 02:07 Synwave wrote:
I bought Xerath and wasn't too impressed with him (and now hes freebie week fml) but the outlaw looks interesting. Do I wait till he is freebie week to be sure before I spend points on him? I dont know!!
ps Its about time hextech got nerfed!
Alas, poor Yorick.
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Wow. that blitzcrank skin is so awesome. I am considering getting blitzcrank + the skin.
I'll probably try to get him asap (have 2,2k ip right now) and if I like him, I'll get the skin.
How viable is Blitz atm? I know Snoopeh jungles him with great success, but I am not used to playing jungle. Probably not that easy to learn jungle with Blitz.
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Oh wow, I just looked at Grave's stats.
Q has .8 AD scaling on 8sec cd at max rank. His E is a flat 50 mana. His ult has 1.4 AD scaling on the single target, and 1.2 on subsequent targets on a 1min cd at max rank. Also some of the best starting stats of any AD carry (410 hp, 15 armor, 51 damage, 300 mana).
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On October 20 2011 05:13 disformation wrote:
Wow. that blitzcrank skin is so awesome. I am considering getting blitzcrank + the skin.
I'll probably try to get him asap (have 2,2k ip right now) and if I like him, I'll get the skin.
How viable is Blitz atm? I know Snoopeh jungles him with great success, but I am not used to playing jungle. Probably not that easy to learn jungle with Blitz.
Rather niche.
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On October 20 2011 05:13 disformation wrote:
Wow. that blitzcrank skin is so awesome. I am considering getting blitzcrank + the skin.
I'll probably try to get him asap (have 2,2k ip right now) and if I like him, I'll get the skin.
How viable is Blitz atm? I know Snoopeh jungles him with great success, but I am not used to playing jungle. Probably not that easy to learn jungle with Blitz.
blitz is extremely strong in solo queue... not sure he's actually good to play though, people will insist you run as support and he's really not a very good support at all. It's practically impossible to get the double stun lane these days, nobody wants to try different stuff lol
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Blitz isn't good as support only because he needs some farm.
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On October 20 2011 04:40 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 04:37 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 20 2011 04:28 overt wrote:On October 20 2011 04:17 Shelke14 wrote:
LoL pro community reminds me of the CS 1.6 cal main/im community lol. Drama filled bunch of babies. Over time they will grow up but since this is a new game and the pro's have never really been in the spotlight before, it just takes time. Right now they have all these kids all over them and they love the Efame (I guess you could say). It is so entertaining though. This is almost as entertaining as when CLG was bitching at the IEM staff members after they publicly said stuff like, "I hate CLG" and "Fuck Chauster, he's an arrogant douchebag." Culminating in Chauster posting a picture of his muscles with a caption of, "Come at me bro." I want a picture of Phantom and Tree flexing their biceps. What biceps? These biceps?
DAMN HE SO HUGE WUT DO NEVER FIGHT CHAUSTER...
Sarcasm aside, still waiting to see these biceps, because he looks pretty small.
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On October 20 2011 04:57 Flakes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 04:09 red_ wrote:On October 20 2011 03:50 Craton wrote:
Here's the tl;dr for v8:
Phantom pulled together a team and they qualified for IEM and were given a free spot in IPL. Teams banned out Phantom during qualifiers and team is like 'we really need to learn more champs.' According to Tree, rest of team starts playing solo queue a lot to learn new champs (at the last minute I guess) and Phantom doesn't 'cause he's too busy trying to get team publicity/sponsors.
v8 gets to IPL and they all play like shit. (Fuck what both sides say, I watched the games; they all played like ass.) Phantom says w/e we all played like shit and that he was too nervous at IPL. Rest of team blames loss entirely on Phantom and decide they're going to bench Phantom.
Phantom's basically "fuck that, I put this team together and got the sponsors, etc." According to Phantom, TakashiX (who they wanted to replace him with) hadn't played in any of the scrims or qualifier games up to that point. Both sides pretty much agree that the rest of the team had already locked in their decision to bench Phantom prior to actually talking to him (which is a pretty dick move). Tree states Phantom was too unwilling to learn from his mistakes or try to improve, which is why they wanted to replace him. Tree also basically said Phantom has a dick personality.
Now, the real dick move is that the team didn't bother manning up and actually clarifying to Phantom that they were sticking to this decision, so they're literally about to sit down and play when they finally tell him they're not using him.
Frankly, I think they're all jackoffs for the situation. If Phantom actually was a dick then I understand not wanting to be on a team with him. This, however, is something you would know long before going out and finding a sponsor and attending a live event. If you have personality issues, then you deal with it well before that time. Further, you don't act like little whiny bitches and refuse to talk to your teammate. "We couldn't find a good time to tell him." Man up.
You expect too much from kids(I don't even know their age, but they act like kids so ya). Takashi and Tree have been part of a ton of LoL drama involving little bitch behavior, and they always go public to the general forums with a PR like response to save face, making people think they're really nice dudes... and then they go do something else and repeat the cycle. Eski and Taka are pretty nice dudes IRL, and idk who wouldn't try to present their side of the story after the other party makes a public statement against you. They are also 21 and I consider them, and rest of v8 as kids (rest of v8 younger for the most part afaik), mostly based on me being 21 and I consider myself a kid when it comes to important decisions. Even for a "kid" it's pretty big of Eski to pretty much take all the flak for what was a unanimous team decision. The IPL loss wasn't really attributed to Plord, but their extremely limited selection of team strategies was. There is clearly something wrong if they couldn't have a productive team discussion before IEM, and that problem is not necessarily that everyone except phantom is a "little whiny bitch." Regardless, it looks like the drama is resolved, even if not everyone is happy about it.
Eski is your typical nice guy. I like him.
Taka's a douche on the other hand.
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On October 20 2011 05:24 Sabin010 wrote:
Blitz isn't good as support only because he needs some farm.
Blitz isn't good as support because he absolutely does nothing. He can knockup someone to save someone but he puts himself @ great risk doing so, and hiding behind creeps is easy.
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