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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 28 2011 18:00 GMT
#2701
On October 29 2011 02:55 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 02:53 LargoLeGrande wrote:
On October 29 2011 02:45 Offhand wrote:
On October 28 2011 06:59 Seuss wrote:
MOBA is a bad acronym because it isn't catchy and can easily be mistaken for something other than an acronym when used in casual conversation. Terms like RPG, RTS, and FPS work well because it's obvious that they're acronyms, and they're all short enough (both in word count and syllables) to be easy to remember (even if the expanded acronym arguably doesn't properly describe the genre).

That's why Gabe Newell's "Action RTS" term is probably better.


Wouldn't RTS - micro battle be more appropriate?

On October 29 2011 02:24 LargoLeGrande wrote:
On October 29 2011 01:29 Offhand wrote:
On October 29 2011 01:16 Haemonculus wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:51 Grohnn wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:38 Offhand wrote:
I'd like to know who designs the character backgrounds for LoL champs. Some of these characters look like they've been designed by a focus group attempting to target every nerd in existence.

Take Ezreal, for example, he's basically some combination of a Final Fantasy and DBZ character. His backdrop is a "boy who goes exploring", this is every anime-thing ever rolled into one champ.

Tristana is even scarier. Her backstory is literally the backstory one of my friends in college had for her LARP group (replace gunner with archer and megling with half-elf and you're there). They even got the lesbian part right.


Yeah and who doesnt like boobs? ^^

Tristana is a lesbian? o.O


Read the backstory part with Teemo. This eerily resembles people I know from college.

E: Surprise party fiddle is the best skin. So many people buying it only to then immediately go 1/10 with fiddle every game.


But Teemo's a dude.


And not in any way in a relationship with Tristana in the current backstory. Their relationship was retconned out of existence according to a poster earlier in the thread (have no idea if this is true).


Although them being in a relationship is speculated about in Teemo's current backstory. I was more confused where you were getting the lesbian part from.


Apparently he knew girls with short hair and small breasts who like to shoot stuff from college. =P


You forgot the blue skin, being about 4 ft tall, and making sexual jokes about rockets in your pocket
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Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
October 28 2011 18:03 GMT
#2702
dont forget has been known to troll with an ap build from time to time.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
October 28 2011 18:15 GMT
#2703
lol Dunkey's build is so bad
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
October 28 2011 18:17 GMT
#2704
sheesh the amount of random whispers Dunkey gets /wrists
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 18:19:38
October 28 2011 18:19 GMT
#2705
On October 29 2011 01:02 byFd wrote:
no shen love in this thread -_-


nope not really

only build I've seen that scaled at all is ap... seems sketchy
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
October 28 2011 18:25 GMT
#2706
What about using some kind of lichbanes Shen build? Something along the lines of Rylai's, Lichbanes, Aybssal, Zhonya's, Deathcap, Mercs. I could see RoA or Deathfires Grasp working, but buying two mana gems or mana gem and a Meki being too much of a waste.

What are your thoughts on Lichbanes Shen?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 28 2011 18:27 GMT
#2707
I'd rather shoot myself in the face than build AP items on Shen.

ok, that might be a bit of an exaggeration, but seriously, Shen with AP sucks massive donkey dick.
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 28 2011 18:30 GMT
#2708
Westrice played "Carry" shen when he got banned out in a scrim agaisnt someone. Dat shield man, daggers hella good at harassing pirate.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
October 28 2011 18:34 GMT
#2709
Yeah, I think I've seen Locicero go legendary with an AP Shen top build, the almost free harass is pretty sickening, throw in a free teleport w/ life saving shield, a wall hop taunt, and another shield, and it's a pretty mean kit. The only problem is that AP scaling sucks unless you're an actual AP Carry.
3.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 28 2011 18:36 GMT
#2710
K I know Im a page behind on the whole Mallet vs Warmogs thing, but here is my 2 cents:

On characters where each makes sense, I tend to look at WHEN I am going to need the damage. Atmogs is great, but you do have a HUGE lul in power before atmogs is complete, whereas FM gives you the opportunity to buff up on damage a little bit as you go.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
October 28 2011 18:51 GMT
#2711
Also consider the enemy team and your team.
Do you really need Mallet to chase down and kill dudes? If you're perpetually the last man standing and your job is to hunt down their akali or mundo or yi or w/e who survives every teamfight with 300 hp, will mallet help you chase them down with no mercy?
Alternately, do you need the extra mogs regen to keep up with enemy poking? Do you need the additional 600 health buffer? Can your team afford to let you farm up all your mogs stacks?

(the answer is always Warmogs? How about MOREmogs!!!)
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 28 2011 18:55 GMT
#2712
On October 29 2011 03:27 Mogwai wrote:
I'd rather shoot myself in the face than build AP items on Shen.

ok, that might be a bit of an exaggeration, but seriously, Shen with AP sucks massive donkey dick.


I played a ranked 5s a while ago with 5hit where one guy on our team went AP Shen and botlane was Kog Soraka, so when teamfights rolled around Kog got like 1500 HP + 125 armor.

Don't hate yo.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 28 2011 18:57 GMT
#2713
i would get neither since they are both shitty items
Brees on in
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
October 28 2011 19:01 GMT
#2714
On October 29 2011 03:57 Brees wrote:
i would get neither since they are both shitty items

your trolling is getting too obvious these days
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
October 28 2011 19:05 GMT
#2715
Frankly I don't think frozen mallet is really there to help chase people down like that. If teamfights were really going that way then you probably should be the carrier of red buff instead of your AD carry. Not to mention that being the last one standing is significantly harder because you paid a lot of gold for a slow that will, regardless of how effective the actual cc is, make you a weaker combatant because you could be getting more raw stats if you built other stuff.

I don't think frozen mallet is much better than a phage in terms of the proc. Most bruisers that would use frozen mallet has at least some cc to keep a target locked down for a couple of attacks and frankly who really cares about the slow until you're already losing the teamfight and are trying to run away =/
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 28 2011 19:06 GMT
#2716
On October 29 2011 04:01 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 03:57 Brees wrote:
i would get neither since they are both shitty items

your trolling is getting too obvious these days



not trolling, frozen mallet has always been bad and warmog's was cool when I was building atmog's sivir before anyone knew about it, but now warmog's not hipster enough. also sucks.max cd/triforce is the new cool build on bruisers, fuck atmog's.
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 28 2011 19:07 GMT
#2717
Atmog's is more niche now IMO. People have learned how to better abuse the lull in midgame power on it.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 28 2011 19:10 GMT
#2718
His original range was shorter, and we had higher base stats during that time to compensate. When we increased his range, we didn't change the stats back over.

We'll probably hit a couple of these overall - will discuss with the team. ( Morello about Graves )


In case people didn't see it.
Most champion get this kind of " let's nerf all their number juste before release, then buff them to balance next patch. "
Look like they forgot to do it on Graves.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
October 28 2011 19:51 GMT
#2719
Oh good so I wasn't imagining things, Graves truely is op right now.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 20:06:23
October 28 2011 20:01 GMT
#2720
On October 29 2011 04:10 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
His original range was shorter, and we had higher base stats during that time to compensate. When we increased his range, we didn't change the stats back over.

We'll probably hit a couple of these overall - will discuss with the team. ( Morello about Graves )


In case people didn't see it.
Most champion get this kind of " let's nerf all their number juste before release, then buff them to balance next patch. "
Look like they forgot to do it on Graves.

Yeah how could they forget they gave a ranged ad the burst of annie when he hits level 6, with a short range blink, and bruiser stats. The amount of fucked up graves is is way beyond a few base stats being high.

I'll even edit in the numbers, annie q 165, w 130, r 200 (not including ap ratios, q3w2r1)
graves q 150, w 60 (I'm counting 1 skill in his e otherwise it would be 110), r 250. Because graves gets + physical damage instead of ap, you get even more damage on top of those from a lvl 6 champion.
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