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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 12 2011 01:10 GMT
#1741
i kno its gd and all, but talking about geography and the arrogance of americans and the ignorance of hsgg is a bit outside the scope of the thread
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 12 2011 01:11 GMT
#1742
On October 12 2011 10:06 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 10:00 Phrost wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:44 Ecael wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:40 WhiteNights wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:37 Ecael wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:34 WhiteNights wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:30 Ecael wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:19 tyCe wrote:
On October 12 2011 04:23 Two_DoWn wrote:
lol, I know HSGG is Canadian, but really? "What state is NY City in?" Doesnt everyone know NY, NY?

What state is Sydney in? What province is Guangzhou in? Can you answer these without checking?

You'd be silly to think that either of those have remotely the same significance as NYC.

What prefecture is Tokyo in? What state is Berlin in?

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Tokyo Prefecture. Berlin.

Tokyo isn't a prefecture but a metropolis. While English wise they both fall under "prefecture" for whatever reason, it is 都 instead of 府.

As for Berlin, I have no idea.

"Prefectural-level unit," then. Berlin is actually a city-state. The city is the state. Also, the provincial-level unit in which Beijing is located is the Beijing Municipality. Anyway the point is that just because the city has the same name as the state doesn't mean that everybody has to know the name of the state.

I said nothing of that point, I simply think it is silly to use Sydney and Guangzhou when the two have had by far less impact than NYC.

There is also the issue of geographical proximity I guess, I know a decent amount of Japanese and Mainland China geography being from Taiwan, though after all my years in the States my knowledge of Canadian geography is pretty bad still. Maybe it works the same way in Canada.



From my experience (which is limited to my roommates and all of his previous family and friends in Canada) Canadians usually know significantly more about our states than Americans know about Canadian provinces.

I think this is due to the fact that the NHL is especially popular in Canada and a lot of the teams are based in the US.

That being said I think it's unfair to compare most country's province/state/whatevers to American states as they're generally not as big of a deal. The US's states are more atkin to the sub-countries of the UK than most government's land subdivisions. But maybe it's just because I've only lived in the US.


Anyway the tl;dr version:
Obviously HSGG doesnt watch hockey because New York State is home 3 teams in the NHL, one of which plays in NYC.

Sorry but I think that view is misplaced. I can easily name Wales, Ireland, Scotland, England or w/e but I can't name all the states of the US for instance. Further, the question was of linking a city with a state in the US which is triply as difficult as naming Ireland or Wales as being part of the UK. Even if New York State has New York in the name, for some reason NYC, New York State and New Jersey just confuses me (and I got my confusion from other Australians so I suppose it's not just me) and HSGG could've been merely unsure rather than completely ignorant.


Well to be honest I probably don't remember all of the states off hand (there are 50 of them vs 4 in the UK, and 7 in Australia) but I think most people can name a handful that have important cities in them (I'd be surprised if people didn't know California )
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#1743
On October 12 2011 09:23 WhiteNights wrote:
I saw people buy Nashor's on pre-nerf Kayle for a while.

It's... not terrible on her now. There's an AS type build with some On Hits that does alright, but I don't really play as her or with her enough. Nashor's, Madred's, Wit's, Malady and some defensive item is what a friend uses, I think.
It's your boy Guzma!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
October 12 2011 01:15 GMT
#1744
On October 12 2011 09:03 57 Corvette wrote:
So according to my mom, League of Legends is the same thing as Facebook Sims.

Permission to smackabitch?

Denied.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 12 2011 01:15 GMT
#1745
Nashor's is a terrible, terrible item, even on pre-nerf Kayle. Seriously, just terrible. Please stop talking about it =]

Also the geography lesson sidebar is maybe the most retarded tangent this forum has ever gone off on.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 01:22:22
October 12 2011 01:18 GMT
#1746
On October 12 2011 10:09 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 10:00 tyCe wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:44 Ecael wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:40 WhiteNights wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:37 Ecael wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:34 WhiteNights wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:30 Ecael wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:19 tyCe wrote:
On October 12 2011 04:23 Two_DoWn wrote:
lol, I know HSGG is Canadian, but really? "What state is NY City in?" Doesnt everyone know NY, NY?

What state is Sydney in? What province is Guangzhou in? Can you answer these without checking?

You'd be silly to think that either of those have remotely the same significance as NYC.

What prefecture is Tokyo in? What state is Berlin in?

+ Show Spoiler +
Tokyo Prefecture. Berlin.

Tokyo isn't a prefecture but a metropolis. While English wise they both fall under "prefecture" for whatever reason, it is 都 instead of 府.

As for Berlin, I have no idea.

"Prefectural-level unit," then. Berlin is actually a city-state. The city is the state. Also, the provincial-level unit in which Beijing is located is the Beijing Municipality. Anyway the point is that just because the city has the same name as the state doesn't mean that everybody has to know the name of the state.

I said nothing of that point, I simply think it is silly to use Sydney and Guangzhou when the two have had by far less impact than NYC.

There is also the issue of geographical proximity I guess, I know a decent amount of Japanese and Mainland China geography being from Taiwan, though after all my years in the States my knowledge of Canadian geography is pretty bad still. Maybe it works the same way in Canada.

Impact is all relative to the person concerned. If you want to take about international impact, there are very few cities that can be compared with NYC so that criticism is a little unfair to make. Even so, it's not as though people should know about what state NYC is in because that is completely irrelevant to their needs.

That the comparison would be unfair is kind of the point, I personally thought it to be one of those cases where people would know not because they know the state for whatever reason, but because it is "New York" city. Pretty much figured that people would just guess that "New York" is whatever greater area the city falls under.

I guess the idea is that fame would've led lack of knowledge to the proper conclusion. Knowing any more about the actual tristate area would simply lead to confusions.

To the contrary, I don't think the point can be made that everyone should know what state New York is in because it's clearly in New York State, because your own capital, Washington DC isn't in the state of Washington. Especially when so many people who us foreigners know as being from New York are actually from New Jersey. You know, this type of thing is not as intuitive as you make it sound, especially for someone to whom the state of New York holds no significance at all.

Edit: ok, I agree that this geography crap has gotten out of hand so this is my last post on it; I never said Americans were arrogant anyway (why are you so defensive?), maybe a little narrow minded about foreign knowledge of their own geography perhaps.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 12 2011 01:21 GMT
#1747
Can we stop talking about where New York is located? So HSGG doesn't know what state NYC is in. Last I checked, the general populace is quite bad at geography.
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 12 2011 01:23 GMT
#1748
On October 12 2011 10:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
Can we stop talking about where New York is located? So HSGG doesn't know what state NYC is in. Last I checked, the general populace is quite bad at geography.

Hey man, I'm just replying on my iPhone on the train and I'm not checking the thread continuously. Relax?
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 12 2011 01:25 GMT
#1749
On October 12 2011 10:23 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 10:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
Can we stop talking about where New York is located? So HSGG doesn't know what state NYC is in. Last I checked, the general populace is quite bad at geography.

Hey man, I'm just replying on my iPhone on the train and I'm not checking the thread continuously. Relax?

That was a pretty mean response. Neo is just trying to keep this thread on topic.
Relax?
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WhiteNights
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States252 Posts
October 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#1750
The Mordekaiser nerf says minions. Does this include monsters?
May your sky be always clear, may your smile be always bright, and may you be forever blessed for that moment of happiness which you gave to another lonely and grateful heart!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 12 2011 01:29 GMT
#1751
On October 12 2011 10:26 WhiteNights wrote:
The Mordekaiser nerf says minions. Does this include monsters?

Yep. RIP jungle Mord.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 12 2011 01:31 GMT
#1752
morde still works long as you dont run into cass or some other gay hero mid
Brees on in
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
October 12 2011 01:32 GMT
#1753
On October 12 2011 10:29 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 10:26 WhiteNights wrote:
The Mordekaiser nerf says minions. Does this include monsters?

Yep. RIP jungle Mord.


Speaking of him, just got raped by a Morde as Talon. Well, after he was 1-0 and had bluebuff, but didn't feel to well before that either.

Am I doing it wrong?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
October 12 2011 01:34 GMT
#1754
On October 12 2011 10:29 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 10:26 WhiteNights wrote:
The Mordekaiser nerf says minions. Does this include monsters?

Yep. RIP jungle Mord.

Wait, really? I thought they always made the distinction between minions and monsters. Well that sucks, I was going to get morde to jungle with because I am getting bored with the usual jungles.
WhiteNights
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 01:39:04
October 12 2011 01:35 GMT
#1755
On October 12 2011 10:29 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 10:26 WhiteNights wrote:
The Mordekaiser nerf says minions. Does this include monsters?

Yep. RIP jungle Mord.

Fuck, there goes half my jungling champions.

Actually, a third, because Jungle Caitlyn.
May your sky be always clear, may your smile be always bright, and may you be forever blessed for that moment of happiness which you gave to another lonely and grateful heart!
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
October 12 2011 01:36 GMT
#1756
This discussion made me remember that I haven't seen a banned or picked mordekaiser in such a long time. Was the nerf to much or do people just not want to play a hero when it's balance because they remember how strong it used to be?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 01:44:00
October 12 2011 01:38 GMT
#1757
Edit: Geography tangent bad!

Meanwhile, I jumped on buying anivia with IP (played her during free week in the past and was kinda enjoying her) before realizing it's ALSO free week for her, and to double check that I'd like playing her.

Revive anivia on dominion is so fun, though.
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 01:38:46
October 12 2011 01:38 GMT
#1758
Did they do something to jungle? I just tested a jungle run with Olaf after not leveling on golems in game:[image loading]
LOUD NOISES!!!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 01:39:35
October 12 2011 01:39 GMT
#1759
A little of both. He isn't godmode in lane anymore, but he can still snowball out of control.

Did they do something to jungle? I just tested a jungle run with Olaf after not leveling on golems in game:

Masteries.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
October 12 2011 01:40 GMT
#1760
You misclicked and missed 1 point in xp mastery, something around that.
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