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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 11:56:40
December 24 2010 11:50 GMT
#121
Attempt at bravery:

[image loading]

First death I was towerdove on lvl 4, getting first blood + a double kill. Second death was by Karthus when I only had just bought soulstealer and had no stacks anyway. After got the snowball items I never died though.

Couldn't get full stacks in time unfortunately, and I had like 2k gold but couldn't go back to buy since they surrendered so early.
Was going to get triforce + GA.

That kat was good ;o
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
December 24 2010 16:14 GMT
#122
http://eu.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=973104

Bravery is now endorsed by riot
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
December 24 2010 16:34 GMT
#123
[image loading]


The bravest screenshot from that thread that I have seen.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
December 24 2010 16:39 GMT
#124
And I am about to advertise bravery on the US boards as well.

Brave Twitch was TRULY brave. I always unstealthed in the MIDDLE of the enemy team. I even survived occasionally.

I salute you, brave men of Teamliquid!
My modesty is awesome.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 16:53:21
December 24 2010 16:48 GMT
#125
On December 25 2010 01:34 phyvo wrote:
[image loading]


The bravest screenshot from that thread that I have seen.

Don't be decieved by the looks of it. Something tells me that there was a certain lack of tryharding involved.

Kind of related: Today we attempted a Chalice Christmas game. Urgot, Lux, Soraka, Jungle Kassadin, Tryndamere. I think we overdid it a bit though, AD Soraka, AD Kassadin, Chalice Tryndamere...

Have a brave Christmas, everyone!
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 16:54:28
December 24 2010 16:53 GMT
#126
What does tryharding have to do with bravery, so long as they aren't not tryharding in a cowardly way?

The goal isn't to win. It's to be BRAVE.

A brave loser is better than a cowardly winner.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 17:05:22
December 24 2010 16:55 GMT
#127
On December 25 2010 01:53 phyvo wrote:
What does tryharding have to do with bravery, so long as they aren't completely goofing around?

The goal isn't to win. It's to be BRAVE.

A brave loser is better than a cowardly winner.

All 10 players are only focused on buying triple stacks, triforce, tiamat. Do you expect anyone to seriously push?

It's not brave if it's easy to get those items.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 17:32:59
December 24 2010 17:24 GMT
#128
On December 25 2010 01:55 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 01:53 phyvo wrote:
What does tryharding have to do with bravery, so long as they aren't completely goofing around?

The goal isn't to win. It's to be BRAVE.

A brave loser is better than a cowardly winner.

All 10 players are only focused on buying triple stacks, triforce, tiamat. Do you expect anyone to seriously push?


What does buying items have to do with preventing anyone from clicking on a turret.

Again, from my point of view, it's the bravest screenshot in that thread. There's no proof in any of those other screenshots that the summoners embraced a truly brave mentality as well as the brave build. Being cajoled or forced by your team into pushing is not really braver than just not pushing anyways, and anybody can post a winning 20/X/X screenshot when they have made many non-brave plays. Moreover, your conjecture that 10 brave men are less brave because they all want to finish their builds is just a conjecture. I posit that true bravery can only happen *more* with more brave players, since there are more people around to be brave. What, was the Justice League less brave because it had Batman *and* Superman?

Basically though, I don't know why anyone would ever bother to give anyone a hard time about whether or not they were "brave" unless they were playing a game with said "brave" person and found some reason to complain. Suspiciously critiquing the bravery of others in that way seems completely out of place given what we mean by bravery and what we do in it's name.

It just seems to me that 10 brave people is very brave indeed and I wish that I could have see that brave battle.

[edit]"Easy to get those items"?, what do you mean by easy? What if the entire other team sucked so hard it was easy for you to get 20/20/20? Is that brave more brave than the brave who wins 14/7/2 against a better team? How does one factor all the possible brave variables into one brave equation by which we can measure all bravery?

In my opinion, and I know it's not an opinion that holds a lot of weight, items, stacks, and KDA are all imperfect yardsticks of bravery. I merely picked the screenshot with 10 braves because having 10 braves in one game is awesome. Pretty much no other reason.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
December 24 2010 19:12 GMT
#129
[image loading]
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 20:28:42
December 24 2010 20:27 GMT
#130
I fail to see the bravery. But I do see bad item builds. (hextech on xin...? frozen mallet on kennen...? etc)
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 24 2010 21:48 GMT
#131
On December 25 2010 01:14 ghen wrote:
http://eu.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=973104

Bravery is now endorsed by riot


lirl
i feel so important right now
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
December 24 2010 22:58 GMT
#132
http://www.own3d.tv/live/3615

Laggy bravery stream is live.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 24 2010 23:09 GMT
#133
You're not being brave when everybody in the game is trying to do the exact same thing. You're just another average joe with everybody being silly.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 23:11:44
December 24 2010 23:11 GMT
#134
On December 25 2010 08:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
You're not being brave when everybody in the game is trying to do the exact same thing. You're just another average joe with everybody being silly.


So.

Because 10 brave warriors meet on the field of battle, nothing that any of them can do is brave or epic.

I'm sure that makes sense somewhere, but it sure doesn't in my head.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 00:45:42
December 25 2010 00:39 GMT
#135
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 00:46:38
December 25 2010 00:45 GMT
#136
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DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
December 25 2010 00:54 GMT
#137
RandomKorea, we DID do it in ranked as well, but we just got raped like silly brave men. Not much point in uploading that. BUT WE SHALL TRY AGAIN.
My modesty is awesome.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
December 25 2010 01:28 GMT
#138
wait riot reads these forums? =/
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 25 2010 02:20 GMT
#139
On December 25 2010 10:28 Phrost wrote:
wait riot reads these forums? =/

pwned.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 25 2010 02:33 GMT
#140
On December 25 2010 11:20 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 10:28 Phrost wrote:
wait riot reads these forums? =/

pwned.

ahahahahahah
it's my first day
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