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I hope Liquid wins, but I feel they're not good with how the meta shifted to korean style since MSI MGA.
If they at least get a qualifying stop, that would be great and deserved for the results they had in 2015. They looked to me like the best EU team this year.
I don't like Bob/dignitas much (they feel to me like a patch team), but I guess they have good chances of winning this.
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I hope TL wins, but i think N'avi could turn this into a 1st place easily.
I really just hope BoB, PiP and Fnatic will get fucking rekt. Like seriously it's amazing how many shitters those 3 teams have (and also extremely toxic/angry players who are the cancer of EU HL)
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TL picking Raynor very early (their 2nd pick). Crazy, who would've thought a month ago.
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Yikes, anyone have an explanation for why they went for Malfurion instead of Rehgar? Tranquility preference maybe?
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On October 02 2015 21:19 ThomasjServo wrote:
Yikes, anyone have an explanation for why they went for Malfurion instead of Rehgar? Tranquility preference maybe?
Malf is usually better hero in 2 Warriors meta with how much sustain healing he provides to the team and how much fights are dragged on. Only real burst Dignitas has is Zeratul and he has a hard time to burst anyone down except for Jaina, and even she isn't so easy since Falcon got Frost Armor against Zeratul. Malf also goes quite well with any "mage" hero because of Innervate.
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On October 02 2015 21:23 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 21:19 ThomasjServo wrote:
Yikes, anyone have an explanation for why they went for Malfurion instead of Rehgar? Tranquility preference maybe? Malf is usually better hero in 2 Warriors meta with how much sustain healing he provides to the team and how much fights are dragged on. Only real burst Dignitas has is Zeratul and he has a hard time to burst anyone down except for Jaina, and even she isn't so easy since Falcon got Frost Armor against Zeratul. Malf also goes quite well with any "mage" hero because of Innervate.
Good point. Dig has to be feeling nervous with 69 gems on Zeratul XD
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Zeratul lost 74 gems, that should be a game. 
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Olé TL. Olé. Do you know next map yet?
EDIT Dragon Shire.
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I wonder if pro teams remember that Webweavers now get stronger after the 15 minute mark... TL turned in at 14:56 :D
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On October 02 2015 21:36 Big G wrote:
I wonder if pro teams remember that Webweavers now get stronger after the 15 minute mark... TL turned in at 14:56 :D
Real question is that applied from when they are summoned, or when they appear on the map, or does it apply if they are on the map when the clock hits 15?
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On October 02 2015 21:37 ThomasjServo wrote:
Real question is that applied from when they are summoned, or when they appear on the map, or does it apply if they are on the map when the clock hits 15?
I have no idea
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I have a feeling that TL's lineup is quite low on damage in this game, especially against the Tyrael + Kharazim combo, but they are quite tanky with two best tanks in the game and Tassadar. This is probably going to be hard.
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Someone is getting mugged in the background, jesus.
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Ahahaha Tod casually continued with the casting hahahaha epic. :D
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So... is the technology there for restarting from replay?
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On October 02 2015 21:51 ThomasjServo wrote:
So... is the technology there for restarting from replay?
I don't think so, even though it should be since HOTS is basically created from SC2.
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On October 02 2015 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 21:51 ThomasjServo wrote:
So... is the technology there for restarting from replay? I don't think so, even though it should be since HOTS is basically created from SC2.
Didn't think I would see a complete restart again in a game for some time. #westillwantlan.
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I think TL took a bit of a breath and wanted to wrest some of that lane control from Dig.
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On October 02 2015 21:36 Big G wrote:
I wonder if pro teams remember that Webweavers now get stronger after the 15 minute mark... TL turned in at 14:56 :D
It counts when they plop out of the shadoworb. So should be okay.
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On October 02 2015 21:58 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 02 2015 21:51 ThomasjServo wrote:
So... is the technology there for restarting from replay? I don't think so, even though it should be since HOTS is basically created from SC2. Didn't think I would see a complete restart again in a game for some time. #westillwantlan.
Yeah, this is quite terrible way to handle the things. :/
I am rooting for 1-1 so we could see game 3.
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On October 02 2015 22:17 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 21:58 ThomasjServo wrote:On October 02 2015 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 02 2015 21:51 ThomasjServo wrote:
So... is the technology there for restarting from replay? I don't think so, even though it should be since HOTS is basically created from SC2. Didn't think I would see a complete restart again in a game for some time. #westillwantlan. Yeah, this is quite terrible way to handle the things. :/ I am rooting for 1-1 so we could see game 3.
I honestly think it affected Dignitas, TL feels far more present past level ten than they did in the first match where everyone DC'd.
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ah the way tod pronounces prescience heh
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On October 02 2015 22:19 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 22:17 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 02 2015 21:58 ThomasjServo wrote:On October 02 2015 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 02 2015 21:51 ThomasjServo wrote:
So... is the technology there for restarting from replay? I don't think so, even though it should be since HOTS is basically created from SC2. Didn't think I would see a complete restart again in a game for some time. #westillwantlan. Yeah, this is quite terrible way to handle the things. :/ I am rooting for 1-1 so we could see game 3. I honestly think it affected Dignitas, TL feels far more present past level ten than they did in the first match where everyone DC'd.
It definitely affected them, they had the advantage in the first game, not big but still an advantage. They are getting back in this game though.
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On October 02 2015 22:25 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 22:19 ThomasjServo wrote:On October 02 2015 22:17 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 02 2015 21:58 ThomasjServo wrote:On October 02 2015 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 02 2015 21:51 ThomasjServo wrote:
So... is the technology there for restarting from replay? I don't think so, even though it should be since HOTS is basically created from SC2. Didn't think I would see a complete restart again in a game for some time. #westillwantlan. Yeah, this is quite terrible way to handle the things. :/ I am rooting for 1-1 so we could see game 3. I honestly think it affected Dignitas, TL feels far more present past level ten than they did in the first match where everyone DC'd. It definitely affected them, they had the advantage in the first game, not big but still an advantage. They are getting back in this game though.
Yeah, its been an uphill fight since the first DK for TL.
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As I said in my first comment about this game, don't really know what TL was trying to do with these picks? Maybe trying to get heroes that can hold their own so they can hold onto Shrines for longer period of time? Only real damage was Nazeebo that get bursted down instantly by Jaina and Zeratul and Tyrael.
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it was a don't ever get behind comp. Would have rocked if they had been ahead a few levels the whole game.
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go etc TL ! pff they don't want the easy win. Vikings are really well countered now. Will be ultra hard for TL to win this one.
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What are TLV like damage wise? I've never been in a game and seen them played well.
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On October 02 2015 22:43 ThomasjServo wrote:
What are TLV like damage wise? I've never been in a game and seen them played well.
They are ok after level 10, first 10 levels they are just soaking machines, nothing else.
With Longboat they can dish out solid damage and even without it they can zone out some squishy heroes, it also depends on the way you are playing them.
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On October 02 2015 22:49 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 22:43 ThomasjServo wrote:
What are TLV like damage wise? I've never been in a game and seen them played well. They are ok after level 10, first 10 levels they are just soaking machines, nothing else. With Longboat they can dish out solid damage and even without it they can zone out some squishy heroes, it also depends on the way you are playing them.
I see, I was just curious if it there were other benefits beyond we're always going to be soaking, you're not.
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On October 02 2015 23:00 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 22:49 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 02 2015 22:43 ThomasjServo wrote:
What are TLV like damage wise? I've never been in a game and seen them played well. They are ok after level 10, first 10 levels they are just soaking machines, nothing else. With Longboat they can dish out solid damage and even without it they can zone out some squishy heroes, it also depends on the way you are playing them. I see, I was just curious if it there were other benefits beyond we're always going to be soaking, you're not.
Well, there are benefits since you can take a Terror with one Viking and push quite nicely with other 2 one lane while 4 of your mates push the third lane, resulting into all three lanes getting pushed quite hard.
A lot of times we win our games that way on Garden.
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Nice, well played by BOB?!
For some reason I find myself rooting against TL (probably the underdog factor of rooting against the favorites).
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Shouldn't you been rooting for TL then ? Since everyone is hyping Dignitas ?
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On October 02 2015 23:07 ACrow wrote:
Nice, well played by BOB?!
For some reason I find myself rooting against TL (probably the underdog factor of rooting against the favorites).
That would make sense before, but Dignitas is right now in my opinion best EU team(even though the line between them, TL and Na`Vi is probably very slim).
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just got here.. BOB damn! nice work!
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Go Dignitas then, until TL makes an appearance.
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Damn Na'Vi looked so strong after quite a few rounds of mediocre online, not even qualifying for RTB # 3.
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Fresh Meat! Nicely done Na`Vi. 
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That was very one sided, looked like Navi had a much better understanding of where they were going in the draft.
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I would love to see Forcewall on tass, I love that ult.
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ooooh these comps are so interesting
also yay to see sylv
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On October 03 2015 00:25 Larkin wrote:
ooooh these comps are so interesting
also yay to see sylv
Yay to Anub, my favorite tank though I bought Johanna last night.
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On October 03 2015 00:30 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:25 Larkin wrote:
ooooh these comps are so interesting
also yay to see sylv Yay to Anub, my favorite tank though I bought Johanna last night.
Well, Anub is like top tier in EU, no surprise to see him here. A lot of other matches had Anub.
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On October 03 2015 00:31 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:30 ThomasjServo wrote:On October 03 2015 00:25 Larkin wrote:
ooooh these comps are so interesting
also yay to see sylv Yay to Anub, my favorite tank though I bought Johanna last night. Well, Anub is like top tier in EU, no surprise to see him here. A lot of other matches had Anub.
Is the difference that stark between regions? I always thought Anub was considered T2ish tending towards the upper end of that description. Seems like Arthas is preferred over him on the most general of curves.
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the throw pit into anti throw pit
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....Did Tassadar seriously forget to use Archon there until the very end of the fight -_-/
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On October 03 2015 00:35 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:31 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 03 2015 00:30 ThomasjServo wrote:On October 03 2015 00:25 Larkin wrote:
ooooh these comps are so interesting
also yay to see sylv Yay to Anub, my favorite tank though I bought Johanna last night. Well, Anub is like top tier in EU, no surprise to see him here. A lot of other matches had Anub. Is the difference that stark between regions? I always thought Anub was considered T2ish tending towards the upper end of that description. Seems like Arthas is preferred over him on the most general of curves.
Well it depends from team to team, for example I know that quite a few players regard Kharazim as one of the best, if not the best, supports in the game but their teams disagree with them which is the reason he isn't picked that much. Zuna changes his tier list every month or two, depending on the Meta.
Seeing how Anub is picked every second game and sometimes is even banned in EU, he is definitely considered to be a lot better than he is in NA. In Korea he is also picked quite a bit, still not as much as in EU though. In Korea they usually use Locust Swarm while in EU they prefer Web Blast a lot.
About the Arthas, it really depends, Arthas is dealing more damage than Anub but he has a lot less control and diving potential. Arthas is also a bit more tanky and has more sustain but at the same time less mobile.
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WHY TASSADARRRRRRRRRRR WHY.
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On October 03 2015 01:12 SC2John wrote:
WHY TASSADARRRRRRRRRRR WHY.
To be honest he makes sense here, definitely more than in a last 2 games I've seen him.
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GAME OF THROWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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I think it was smart to try and core by VP there. Roccat was really close to storm talents. It was really their only chance of winning.
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On October 03 2015 01:36 Tenks wrote:
I think it was smart to try and core by VP there. Roccat was really close to storm talents. It was really their only chance of winning.
Nah, they could have easily sniped the keep, defended their own, and still had time to get back to the immortal and secure a lead. Going for an all-in there against Leoric getting up in ~20 seconds is just a mistake. If there's anything we've learned from the Americas Championship, it's that Leoric alone can threaten 5 people trying to rush down an objective.
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On October 03 2015 01:36 Tenks wrote:
I think it was smart to try and core by VP there. Roccat was really close to storm talents. It was really their only chance of winning.
I don't, destroying a keep was good decision, going on a core when there was Leoric in the enemy team that was respawning soon, Tassadar that was alive and 2 heroes on 15 sec respawn timer was simply an overextension on their side. I knew that they were going to be wiped from the second I saw them going on the core.
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On October 03 2015 01:38 SC2John wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:36 Tenks wrote:
I think it was smart to try and core by VP there. Roccat was really close to storm talents. It was really their only chance of winning. Nah, they could have easily sniped the keep, defended their own, and still had time to get back to the immortal and secure a lead. Going for an all-in there against Leoric getting up in ~20 seconds is just a mistake. If there's anything we've learned from the Americas Championship, it's that Leoric alone can threaten 5 people trying to rush down an objective.
I disagree. They already had cats top lane and their second keep was at like 20%. Roccat was going to get 20 before the next team fight (VP would not be 20) and that makes it almost impossible to win. The only critique versus VP would be should they have just gone in through the middle straight to core instead of taking the keep. You can do that on BoE, right?
The only way they could have won is if they somehow wiped Roccat AGAIN despite Roccat having storm talents. It isn't going to happen. VP had a chance to win by coring in that situation (they already got a pretty lucky wipe by a terrible Roccat fight) and they took it. But even if Roccat took a bad engage they'd be up storm talents and they simply wouldn't lose.
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On October 03 2015 01:42 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:38 SC2John wrote:On October 03 2015 01:36 Tenks wrote:
I think it was smart to try and core by VP there. Roccat was really close to storm talents. It was really their only chance of winning. Nah, they could have easily sniped the keep, defended their own, and still had time to get back to the immortal and secure a lead. Going for an all-in there against Leoric getting up in ~20 seconds is just a mistake. If there's anything we've learned from the Americas Championship, it's that Leoric alone can threaten 5 people trying to rush down an objective. I disagree. They already had cats top lane and their second keep was at like 20%. Roccat was going to get 20 before the next team fight (VP would not be 20) and that makes it almost impossible to win. The only critique versus VP would be should they have just gone in through the middle straight to core instead of taking the keep. You can do that on BoE, right? The only way they could have won is if they somehow wiped Roccat AGAIN despite Roccat having storm talents. It isn't going to happen. VP had a chance to win by coring in that situation (they already got a pretty lucky wipe by a terrible Roccat fight) and they took it. But even if Roccat took a bad engage they'd be up storm talents and they simply wouldn't lose.
You have to kill a keep before you can attack the core.
My point is that they could get a big experience boost and map presence boost by taking down the keep and still have enough time to take the immortal, which would buy them enough time to catch up in XP and mostly even it out. They don't need to fight with the immortal a talent down, they can instead use it to buy time for them and catch up.
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sigh I wish Khaldor would be casting. I like that you don't have to see it to know whats going on. Not that I am against other casters, but I have to work still and can't pay attention with my eyes.
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That was a well fought game. Roccat ran out of steam.
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On October 03 2015 02:10 FeyFey wrote:
sigh I wish Khaldor would be casting. I like that you don't have to see it to know whats going on. Not that I am against other casters, but I have to work still and can't pay attention with my eyes.
And also having to translate whenever Kaelaris says something like, "But Arthas will be okay once the Wraith Walk goes off...." :p.
Khaldor at least never misspeaks about talents and abilities, which is nice.
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On October 03 2015 02:10 FeyFey wrote:
sigh I wish Khaldor would be casting. I like that you don't have to see it to know whats going on. Not that I am against other casters, but I have to work still and can't pay attention with my eyes.
I don't have a problem with Jake / Cooby, in fact they should have casted the finals in Vegas not Tastetosis. But that's the same reason I think Khaldor should be here instead of one or both of them.
But they are ESL casters and Khaldor is not, so that seems to be the deciding factor.
Also why is this an elimination game? What happened earlier.
Edit: Just checked liquipedia, TL lost to Kharazim followed by triple warrior, more Asian meta biting them huh?
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On October 03 2015 03:10 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 02:10 FeyFey wrote:
sigh I wish Khaldor would be casting. I like that you don't have to see it to know whats going on. Not that I am against other casters, but I have to work still and can't pay attention with my eyes. I don't have a problem with Jake / Cooby, in fact they should have casted the finals in Vegas not Tastetosis. But that's the same reason I think Khaldor should be here instead of one or both of them. But they are ESL casters and Khaldor is not, so that seems to be the deciding factor. Also why is this an elimination game? What happened earlier. Edit: Just checked liquipedia, TL lost to Kharazim followed by triple warrior, more Asian meta biting them huh?
well, Grubby is there and i dont think he is part of ESL
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On October 03 2015 03:10 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 02:10 FeyFey wrote:
sigh I wish Khaldor would be casting. I like that you don't have to see it to know whats going on. Not that I am against other casters, but I have to work still and can't pay attention with my eyes. I don't have a problem with Jake / Cooby, in fact they should have casted the finals in Vegas not Tastetosis. But that's the same reason I think Khaldor should be here instead of one or both of them. But they are ESL casters and Khaldor is not, so that seems to be the deciding factor. Also why is this an elimination game? What happened earlier. Edit: Just checked liquipedia, TL lost to Kharazim followed by triple warrior, more Asian meta biting them huh?
They went for Vikings, enemy took a composition that doesn't care about Viking soak advantage. They really need to start taking giant slayer heroes if they want to use Vikings.
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Well that's as good of an early game advantage as you could hope for lol.
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What were the bans for this match that neither leoric or Johanna were taken
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On October 03 2015 04:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
What were the bans for this match that neither leoric or Johanna were taken
Fnatic banned leoric and abathur, G2 banned kaelthas and raynor
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This Sonya is having a bad game
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On October 03 2015 04:15 Valiver wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 04:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
What were the bans for this match that neither leoric or Johanna were taken Fnatic banned leoric and abathur, G2 banned kaelthas and raynor
huh, interesting. Thanks for the information.
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On October 03 2015 02:23 SC2John wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 02:10 FeyFey wrote:
sigh I wish Khaldor would be casting. I like that you don't have to see it to know whats going on. Not that I am against other casters, but I have to work still and can't pay attention with my eyes. And also having to translate whenever Kaelaris says something like, "But Arthas will be okay once the Wraith Walk goes off...." :p. Khaldor at least never misspeaks about talents and abilities, which is nice.
Lolllll yeah I was quite on tilt early in the day. Combination of having to observe when I didn't anticipate it, while casting, while trying to production problem solve. Rip my mind. It happens sometimes. Never had a casting mishap quite that derp in heroes before.
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On October 03 2015 07:46 Kaelaris wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 02:23 SC2John wrote:On October 03 2015 02:10 FeyFey wrote:
sigh I wish Khaldor would be casting. I like that you don't have to see it to know whats going on. Not that I am against other casters, but I have to work still and can't pay attention with my eyes. And also having to translate whenever Kaelaris says something like, "But Arthas will be okay once the Wraith Walk goes off...." :p. Khaldor at least never misspeaks about talents and abilities, which is nice. Lolllll yeah I was quite on tilt early in the day. Combination of having to observe when I didn't anticipate it, while casting, while trying to production problem solve. Rip my mind. It happens sometimes. Never had a casting mishap quite that derp in heroes before.
Nah, you're good, man! It's a very different world to cast compared to starcraft. The pace that stuff happens is so rapid, I'm amazed anyone can remember all the names of talents and abilities and say them correctly on time. Love your casting, keep it up!
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On October 03 2015 07:46 Kaelaris wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 02:23 SC2John wrote:On October 03 2015 02:10 FeyFey wrote:
sigh I wish Khaldor would be casting. I like that you don't have to see it to know whats going on. Not that I am against other casters, but I have to work still and can't pay attention with my eyes. And also having to translate whenever Kaelaris says something like, "But Arthas will be okay once the Wraith Walk goes off...." :p. Khaldor at least never misspeaks about talents and abilities, which is nice. Lolllll yeah I was quite on tilt early in the day. Combination of having to observe when I didn't anticipate it, while casting, while trying to production problem solve. Rip my mind. It happens sometimes. Never had a casting mishap quite that derp in heroes before.
You're a top 2 play-by-play guy globally in HotS. Don't sweat it.
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yay i can't find a single solo queue game because all the pros are at this event -_-
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Come on TL you got this!!! GL HF!
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Switching over from super league, gotta root for TL!
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no tyrael ult and no battlecruiser on that last fight ... :-/
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Anyone else think that the korean games look better than this?
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I don't think the gap is that huge right now. We'll see at blizzcon.
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On October 03 2015 20:14 Holloworb wrote:
Anyone else think that the korean games look better than this?
They are definitely better.
On October 03 2015 20:27 RouaF wrote:
I don't think the gap is that huge right now. We'll see at blizzcon.
It isn't huge, but there is a gap.
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Feel like TL is very much on the back foot
EDIT: That Tyrael bomb tho.
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What a bad schedule by the way... LoL worlds is at the same time -_-;
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Luckily I dont follow LoL
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On October 03 2015 20:52 RouaF wrote:
What a bad schedule by the way... LoL worlds is at the same time -_-;
Perfect E-Sports day, permanent action and no reason to leave the house on a weekend!
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TL with their unsituational ults again x.x
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RIP Liquid, also good to hear that it is BO5 for semi final.
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Too bad Liquid is out, but i guess Dignitas is just better atm.
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Dunno if Dignitas is better, especially when the casters wants to push me into this Dignitas is just a TL snipe team mindset. But they are right that TL can't play to their strength in the current Meta, with lanes being cleared by invincibles tanks in one hit.
You can't create advantages by splitting well with this anymore.
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Team Liquid's strength came from having Blackscorp on melee assassins, vortix on some XP-soaking hero and the rest just adjusting accordingly. Until this warrior-heavy meta stops, i don't think they will be pulling off amazing results (sadly). I really hope Blizzcon will be better than this, right now it's just whoever is the most heavy (and wave-cleary), wins.
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Everytime the camera goes to VP i think it's FNG sitting there. oO
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wow that Valla cosplay, I am jealous.
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wow Liquid out... i never thought that could happen
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EU is all about Kael, Chen is going to fuck Roccat line-up so badly.
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dignitas and the dream tournament
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Wow, Roccat throwing soo hard in the last game, first ShadowMaRe not clicking the tribute and than Socke chasing and losing them the fight at their ranged creeps.
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ya few mess ups there. so sad.
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Haunted Mines game 1 for Na'vi and G2, here we go.
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noone is watching this #dedgem
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Na'vi played awesome ! It's incredible how they just blow up their opponents
sexy tyrande as well
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[12:08 PM]EsportsJohn: Calling it now: Gamers2 vs Dignitas in the finals, TL and Roccat battling for 3rd.
Made this prediction yesterday before the tournament. I may have been wrong about TL, but I'm really pulling for G2 in this series ^^.
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Solid play. A bit boring, but solid
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On October 04 2015 03:55 fezvez wrote:
Solid play. A bit boring, but solid
Yeah totally ! Really high level though
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On October 03 2015 22:02 Sponkz wrote:
Team Liquid's strength came from having Blackscorp on melee assassins, vortix on some XP-soaking hero and the rest just adjusting accordingly. Until this warrior-heavy meta stops, i don't think they will be pulling off amazing results (sadly). I really hope Blizzcon will be better than this, right now it's just whoever is the most heavy (and wave-cleary), wins.
Yep, so sad to see the year long dominating team out too early because they are playing poorly on this patch... but well, Navi just stomped everyone and Dig proved how they are superior to TL with current meta, so lets hope the meta won't change before blizzcon so we'll really see the best current teams clash.
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As expected top2 teams come from Group A.
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NaVi not dropping a single map so far. gg?
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alright, time for me to watch and see what all the fuss is about.
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Dignitas pulling ahead with a keep snipe! Wow.
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Boss throw from Dignitas... NaVi picks off Zeratul (for like the hundredth time), then NaVi gets spiders and boss. gg.
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Boss traps more effective against teams that don't have vision talents XD
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Navi versus Dignitas so far looks a lot more one sided than I imagined.
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This is not the same without TL
But Im really happy to have Grubby casting things
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Game two wasn't even close.
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Anna with all those announcements of announcements... so EG :D
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NaVi trolling Dignitas so hard with this hero comp hahahaha
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Navi so troll. No warrior, double melee assassin, lol. Either they win by a landslide in the early game, or they lose horribly, there will be not much middle ground with that comp.
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wtf Navi doesn't care about 0 loss tournament. That would be insane if the do it. Butcher can easily heal himself on Arthas though, so basically a tank.
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This comp by Navi is nutty and awesome
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10-0 sweep incoming... NaVi is in a league of their own in EU Heroes.
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Abathur here is doing an amazing job choosing the target to UE each fight
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So if they win this, these will be the heroes on sale next week? Right?
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This mine build on BoE is quite interesting. It is basically like doing Zagara's job on the map but in a better fashion since you can more easily get forward vision.
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Navi is playing this comp perfectly. They get a kill then just disengage. They know they have virtually no sustain and they have a huge amount of blow up. So they get the kill, disengage, re-engage, kill, repeat.
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Weren't tanks supposed to be good against Melee Assassins. But yeah Kharazim can't keep up levels down. Also best map to do this on. You get insane Bosses pushing in, that will end the game for you.
Congrats Navi !
Now Dignitas really feels like they only prepared for beating TL. Was hoping they get a map.
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On October 04 2015 23:48 FeyFey wrote:
Weren't tanks supposed to be good against Melee Assassins. But yeah Kharazim can't keep up levels down. Also best map to do this on. You get insane Bosses pushing in, that will end the game for you.
Congrats Navi !
In theory but in execution Navi was just jumping on either Naz or KT and just blowing them up. Removing either of those two made it so Dig didn't have the damage to actually kill anyone.
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On October 04 2015 23:48 FeyFey wrote:
Weren't tanks supposed to be good against Melee Assassins. But yeah Kharazim can't keep up levels down. Also best map to do this on. You get insane Bosses pushing in, that will end the game for you.
Congrats Navi !
Depends, in Butcher's case for example he is amazing against tank, on the other hand Illidan sucks against them etc.
Really well played by Na`Vi, quite impressed by that last composition and their games overall. JayPL especially showed amazing Butcher play, not just because of the talent build and choosing the right targets but his flanks were amazing. It is quite easy to counter the Butcher when you know from where he is coming.
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Navi looks great, makes me hope EU won't get embarrassed at Blizzcon again
gg's
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needed Dwarf toss talents to save Kael. But was an amazing draft by Navi. Also Moshpit + Deathmetal next time against this Dignitas ! Trust me.
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The last deciding game of the final match was just amazing. Navi's team composition was unorthodox and entertaining - it completely breaks with the trend of multiple-warrior meta. It was so refreshing to watch!
Wondering how they will do against Asians ^^
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Here's another one that's more overview with vod links:
http://hotsshot.com/esports/road-to-blizzcon/
What I found interesting is that a few months ago the top teams in each region were:
NA: Tempo Storm
EU: Team Liquid
Kr: Team DK KR
but they all got dethroned in a hard way recently mostly due to changing metas and all have struggled to catch back up with varying success (DK won super league, TS qualified for Blizzcon, and poor TL couldn't reinvent themselves fast enough).
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