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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 08 2015 10:33 GMT
#21
How to play against stealth: pay attention to your surroundings, if there is a shimmer, run or target it. This article is too long.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 08 2015 13:10 GMT
#22
On August 05 2015 04:26 Tenks wrote:
Another thing to note since I see it in HL all the time. Stealth does not counter Stealth. If they FP Zeratul that isn't a ticket to get Nova. Nova gets shit on by Zeratul anyways so I've never understood the logic.


Early game Nova can do pretty well against Zera, since he will either risk dieing with a blink in, or get hit by snipe. It gets difficult on 13, because Wormhole turns Zeratul into a ranged hero. But on 16 Nova can kill him the moment he blinks in for a poke.
But its really a bad Idea anyway. Before the Zera change it was okay, because both relied on Gathering Power. Since Nova is the only one that needs it, its really hard to play with her against heroes that so easily can kill her. You do have Envenom though on Nova, which gains some value against cloaked heroes.
But in 9 out of 10 games, Zeratuls are usually not in fear of the Nova and take Void Prison instead of Shadow Assault aka "Nova stack reset after she used her snipe". And I am still at that level, where Voidprisons are a diceroll which team dies.

The need for Gathering Power just makes her bad at super high level, just as it made Zeratul bad, but he still had Void Prison going for him. Funnily at high level, she is super strong, because everyone just focusses on you.
MidnightZL
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden203 Posts
August 17 2015 19:10 GMT
#23
Damn thought this was about HS first ;( Seeing some ppl play a lot of stealth minions, well well sunwell..
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
August 17 2015 19:15 GMT
#24
On August 18 2015 04:10 MidnightZL wrote:
Damn thought this was about HS first ;( Seeing some ppl play a lot of stealth minions, well well sunwell..


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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 21 2017 15:18 GMT
#25
With 2.0 and lots of new players coming in, might be a good time to update this. Most of it looks valid except the drafting against part.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 21 2017 16:27 GMT
#26
On April 22 2017 00:18 karazax wrote:
With 2.0 and lots of new players coming in, might be a good time to update this. Most of it looks valid except the drafting against part.

Yeah, lots of outdated info at this point. I'd add that I've found Chromie to be really good actually. Has clairvoyance at level 1 with 25 sec cooldown (which is underrated imo. great info gathering at high elo and great for babysitting teammates at lower elo). And then bronze talons at lvl 3 (the one that empowers your auto) is really good for bursting down the assassin when they come in. Also time trap vs zeratul is great. Learning to play Chromie this way would actually develop a lot of great skills for a newer player (map awareness, not panicking, positioning, skill shots, getting in autos)
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
April 21 2017 18:49 GMT
#27
We are actually working on an update right now. Hopefully we'll be able to ship it by the end of the month!
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Profile Joined July 2015
United States580 Posts
April 21 2017 21:01 GMT
#28
Stealth heroes pretty much either carry or get stomped hard depending on what composition they are against.

If I'm playing Zeratul or Valeera against a team with a Jaina/KT/Rhegar then yea they are going to have a pretty bad time, especially if it's in QM

In draft stealth heroes are a bit more manageable because you can always run Tassadar or Chromie (or LT..) against them and let me tell you, nothings more frustrating playing Zeratul against Tass or Chromie and getting revealed constantly, it really takes your threat level down a notch.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 22 2017 01:05 GMT
#29
I've always thought it was harder to see shimmers in hots than in sc2. Is this just my eyes playing tricks on me?
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