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On July 31 2017 06:42 LastWish wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 05:33 sM.Zik wrote:On July 31 2017 05:07 LastWish wrote:
I would like to love this game.
But instead I hate it.
The hero league is a complete fail, even more than in lol or dota, because one player can ruin everything and it's impossible to carry. In the long run, this happen to everyone about equally. You rank up by never being that player and once you're up there in higher elos, quality of games are much better. I know a bit about variance from poker. Now if I get -210 for defeat and +190 for victory, i'm not going to profit with this rake. The system is badly designed.
Standard is 200 points per game in either direction. It seems valid to complain that the system emphasizes streaks too much and it places "new" players higher than they probably should be placed. However, the "rake" is fine.
Obligatory: Game quality always goes to the gutter on Sundays 
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On July 31 2017 08:26 Ghostcom wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 06:42 LastWish wrote:On July 31 2017 05:33 sM.Zik wrote:On July 31 2017 05:07 LastWish wrote:
I would like to love this game.
But instead I hate it.
The hero league is a complete fail, even more than in lol or dota, because one player can ruin everything and it's impossible to carry. In the long run, this happen to everyone about equally. You rank up by never being that player and once you're up there in higher elos, quality of games are much better. I know a bit about variance from poker. Now if I get -210 for defeat and +190 for victory, i'm not going to profit with this rake. The system is badly designed. Standard is 200 points per game in either direction. It seems valid to complain that the system emphasizes streaks too much and it places "new" players higher than they probably should be placed. However, the "rake" is fine. Obligatory: Game quality always goes to the gutter on Sundays
I have been placed to a low league actually and I'm getting this points of no progress so It's impossible to level up.
By comparsion I've managed to level up quite fast from silver to platinum in league of legends.
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On July 31 2017 17:45 LastWish wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 08:26 Ghostcom wrote:On July 31 2017 06:42 LastWish wrote:On July 31 2017 05:33 sM.Zik wrote:On July 31 2017 05:07 LastWish wrote:
I would like to love this game.
But instead I hate it.
The hero league is a complete fail, even more than in lol or dota, because one player can ruin everything and it's impossible to carry. In the long run, this happen to everyone about equally. You rank up by never being that player and once you're up there in higher elos, quality of games are much better. I know a bit about variance from poker. Now if I get -210 for defeat and +190 for victory, i'm not going to profit with this rake. The system is badly designed. Standard is 200 points per game in either direction. It seems valid to complain that the system emphasizes streaks too much and it places "new" players higher than they probably should be placed. However, the "rake" is fine. Obligatory: Game quality always goes to the gutter on Sundays I have been placed to a low league actually and I'm getting this points of no progress so It's impossible to level up. By comparsion I've managed to level up quite fast from silver to platinum in league of legends.
Yeah, due to the shared team experience in HotS, it's nearly impossible to carry the team.
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On July 31 2017 21:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 17:45 LastWish wrote:On July 31 2017 08:26 Ghostcom wrote:On July 31 2017 06:42 LastWish wrote:On July 31 2017 05:33 sM.Zik wrote:On July 31 2017 05:07 LastWish wrote:
I would like to love this game.
But instead I hate it.
The hero league is a complete fail, even more than in lol or dota, because one player can ruin everything and it's impossible to carry. In the long run, this happen to everyone about equally. You rank up by never being that player and once you're up there in higher elos, quality of games are much better. I know a bit about variance from poker. Now if I get -210 for defeat and +190 for victory, i'm not going to profit with this rake. The system is badly designed. Standard is 200 points per game in either direction. It seems valid to complain that the system emphasizes streaks too much and it places "new" players higher than they probably should be placed. However, the "rake" is fine. Obligatory: Game quality always goes to the gutter on Sundays I have been placed to a low league actually and I'm getting this points of no progress so It's impossible to level up. By comparsion I've managed to level up quite fast from silver to platinum in league of legends. Yeah, due to the shared team experience in HotS, it's nearly impossible to carry the team.
In the sense that you can't farm your hero to the point that you can 1v5. But you can carry with superior mechanics, macro and decision making.
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On July 31 2017 23:05 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 21:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 31 2017 17:45 LastWish wrote:On July 31 2017 08:26 Ghostcom wrote:On July 31 2017 06:42 LastWish wrote:On July 31 2017 05:33 sM.Zik wrote:On July 31 2017 05:07 LastWish wrote:
I would like to love this game.
But instead I hate it.
The hero league is a complete fail, even more than in lol or dota, because one player can ruin everything and it's impossible to carry. In the long run, this happen to everyone about equally. You rank up by never being that player and once you're up there in higher elos, quality of games are much better. I know a bit about variance from poker. Now if I get -210 for defeat and +190 for victory, i'm not going to profit with this rake. The system is badly designed. Standard is 200 points per game in either direction. It seems valid to complain that the system emphasizes streaks too much and it places "new" players higher than they probably should be placed. However, the "rake" is fine. Obligatory: Game quality always goes to the gutter on Sundays I have been placed to a low league actually and I'm getting this points of no progress so It's impossible to level up. By comparsion I've managed to level up quite fast from silver to platinum in league of legends. Yeah, due to the shared team experience in HotS, it's nearly impossible to carry the team. In the sense that you can't farm your hero to the point that you can 1v5. But you can carry with superior mechanics, macro and decision making.
I feel like decision making is the most important aspect, but a lot of that is out of your control... you could have amazing decision making, but if your team doesn't listen to you then your decision making becomes irrelevant. Being an amazing shotcaller only matters if people are okay with you calling the shots.
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On July 31 2017 23:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 23:05 Larkin wrote:On July 31 2017 21:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 31 2017 17:45 LastWish wrote:On July 31 2017 08:26 Ghostcom wrote:On July 31 2017 06:42 LastWish wrote:On July 31 2017 05:33 sM.Zik wrote:On July 31 2017 05:07 LastWish wrote:
I would like to love this game.
But instead I hate it.
The hero league is a complete fail, even more than in lol or dota, because one player can ruin everything and it's impossible to carry. In the long run, this happen to everyone about equally. You rank up by never being that player and once you're up there in higher elos, quality of games are much better. I know a bit about variance from poker. Now if I get -210 for defeat and +190 for victory, i'm not going to profit with this rake. The system is badly designed. Standard is 200 points per game in either direction. It seems valid to complain that the system emphasizes streaks too much and it places "new" players higher than they probably should be placed. However, the "rake" is fine. Obligatory: Game quality always goes to the gutter on Sundays I have been placed to a low league actually and I'm getting this points of no progress so It's impossible to level up. By comparsion I've managed to level up quite fast from silver to platinum in league of legends. Yeah, due to the shared team experience in HotS, it's nearly impossible to carry the team. In the sense that you can't farm your hero to the point that you can 1v5. But you can carry with superior mechanics, macro and decision making. I feel like decision making is the most important aspect, but a lot of that is out of your control... you could have amazing decision making, but if your team doesn't listen to you then your decision making becomes irrelevant. Being an amazing shotcaller only matters if people are okay with you calling the shots.
To an extent. But communicating and working with your team are an aspect of being a good carry as well.
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A lot of times the game is decided even before it has started.
Last player refusing to pick for team and we end up with double specialist no tank.
Great.
You cannot leave or else you lose points up to 4 lost games worth.
I really don't understand this dark age punishment.
In LoL for leaving in lobby you get like at max 15 minutes time to cool off.
Well maybe it got so frequent in HotS so they implemented this retarded punishment, rather than solving the problem in the first place.
Disappointed.
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Mandatory 5 Tracers vs. 5 Tracers on that single-lane Brawl map (that has no camps to help push and no real way to heal... Lost Cavern?) is the dumbest idea the HotS team has ever come up with. Currently, the two teams have over 120 kills total in 25 minutes, and not a single fort has gone down. Level 25 to 25 right now (I'm on death timer) and the game hasn't really been in either team's favor at all. We just keep trading deaths and no progress ever happens. Such a waste of time.
Edit: I've never played a game that got to Level 29 before. That's 45 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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fair and just matchmaking in the works:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WVSOQH3.jpg)
epilogue:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gTEydzh.jpg)
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The moment when you carry a game so hard but your team just sucks so much more...
Most siege damage, most hero damage, most exp and 1 death out of the 27 our team had... getting MVP and the best thing is: My team blamed me for the loss... I don't even know where to start.
But at least the enemy team voted for me, lol
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bomxzjF.jpg)
After 2 weeks since my last Hero League game (I stopped playing it because too many allies would drop or go afk or ragequit, and I got tired of losing ladder points for games out of my control), I tried HL again. And this happened. The draft started out super toxic among all 4 of my teammates, and it only got worse throughout the entire game. They must have spent at least 80% of the game typing and yelling at each other instead of trying to communicate properly. They drafted a shitty team, to be sure, but they flamed each other non-stop and I'm sure they all reported each other. And most of their typing was while they were alive in the game (not even on death timers), so it only made them worse. This is so fucking stupid and exhausting, and I lose just as many ranking points as they do. I haven't played other MOBAs, but Heroes has been the least equitable and most frustrating team game experience I've ever played, ever.
Edit: Game 2 of HL... We had a Xul on Garden of Terror who refused to fight all game. Failed miserably at split-pushing in early and mid game, and didn't help us at all in late game, despite constant pings and typing from the rest of us asking for help. Then takes our plant at the end of the game and goes afk. In the plant.
Edit edit: Game 3 of HL. Stitches on my team does solo camps for at least half of the game, ignoring enemies. Number of hooks thrown: Fewer than 10. Then at the end, he brags about purposely throwing the game. I'm so done with this shit. I don't remember the last time that I had a ranked game with 4 allies who actually tried. If I play in a fair game, I don't mind a loss, but every single game there's always some sort of bullshit where we don't even have a fighting chance.
0-3 for the night, and I'm probably never playing ladder ever again. Fuck this shit.
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Garrosh is so fucking annoying
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Figured I'd do a quick QM game.
Got Varian (me), Tyrael, Tyrande, Brightwing, Auriel as my team vs Garrosh, Rehgar, Thrall, Gul'dan (who had a field day) and Cassia. We had no damage, no waveclear and nothing to feed Auriel energy. How can the matchmaker seriously come up with that kind of composition? The worst I ever had was Abathur (me), Morales, Brightwing, Nova and Murky but that was before they changed it so certain heroes can't be in the same team. Ugh.
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Had a QM vs Stukov, Alarak and Sylvanas.... guess I play without my abilities then
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On August 31 2017 04:01 Harris1st wrote:
Had a QM vs Stukov, Alarak and Sylvanas.... guess I play without my abilities then
That's actually hillarious.. add Butcher and Varian(?) and you get at least 3 rage quits in the enemy team.
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On September 01 2017 19:19 Khalum wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 04:01 Harris1st wrote:
Had a QM vs Stukov, Alarak and Sylvanas.... guess I play without my abilities then That's actually hillarious.. add Butcher and Varian(?) and you get at least 3 rage quits in the enemy team.
I'm sure they had the time of their lifes. Not so funny on the other side though ^^
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Love me some Heroes of the Storm
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If I report someone for intentionally dying in HL, why the fuck would you match me with the same guy again Blizzard? Fuck you.
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I'm not even raging or something bad at all, just wondering if there could be worse profile :D check it out
horrible skills and understanding as well as most deaths in team is a great sign of 234 lvl Tracer, oh and he stayed like first 3 minutes afk/disconnected
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 10 2017 05:44 Dav1oN wrote:I'm not even raging or something bad at all, just wondering if there could be worse profile :D check it out horrible skills and understanding as well as most deaths in team is a great sign of 234 lvl Tracer, oh and he stayed like first 3 minutes afk/disconnected
That is insane... Why would one even continue playing THAT MANY GAMES/HOURS.
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