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salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
June 05 2015 15:01 GMT
#61
If anyone has time to help fill out results then the Enter The Storm 2 tournament is underway but missing some results.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/heroes/Enter_The_Storm/2
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LethalBacon
Profile Joined June 2015
Spain355 Posts
June 18 2015 14:38 GMT
#62
I've been thinking about to become a consistent contributor when I come back from my summer trip (I leave in 1.5 weeks), but I just decided I'd give it a try before I leave, so I filled the Lore part of the Johanna's page, following some tips I've been told in the Liquipedia IRC. What do you guys think?
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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
June 18 2015 18:48 GMT
#63
On June 18 2015 23:38 LethalBacon wrote:
I've been thinking about to become a consistent contributor when I come back from my summer trip (I leave in 1.5 weeks), but I just decided I'd give it a try before I leave, so I filled the Lore part of the Johanna's page, following some tips I've been told in the Liquipedia IRC. What do you guys think?

That looks good! It's that sort of thing that needs to be done on all the heroes to make the pages look complete. It's really only the abilities and talents that are done. So if you decide to even just fill in lore on the other heroes and nothing else, it would be a big help.
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METATERREN
Profile Blog Joined June 2015
71 Posts
June 21 2015 00:10 GMT
#64
Give a spot where contributors are listed at the bottom of an article -- or the top, even. This will incentivize people and provide recourse for readers who want more info.
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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4930 Posts
June 21 2015 06:07 GMT
#65
This place is called "the history page"
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salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
June 21 2015 23:27 GMT
#66
There are extensions that does this, but it looks a bit cluttered for a lot of the articles that reach like 50+ contributors.
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 06 2015 21:10 GMT
#67
Stylistic suggestion:

Every hero has a table called "Level changed stats", but the columns are not clearly labeled as "Initial" and "Increase per level". Hopefully this is changeable from one source instead of needing to go through every hero's entry...how to change it is not clear to me.
Don't Panic
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4930 Posts
August 06 2015 21:21 GMT
#68
Just so i get it right: The first number is the initial value and the second number is the per level change, right? (I'm not too knowledgeable about Heroes, but i know where to change this)
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 06 2015 21:36 GMT
#69
Yeah, the first column is initial values and the second is the per-level change.

Also, on the front heroes page ( http://wiki.teamliquid.net/heroes/Portal:Heroes ) the nova portrait is overlapping into the section below it. (possibly because a new hero was recently added?)
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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4930 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 21:42:27
August 06 2015 21:38 GMT
#70
I'll go fix the first issue, can you send a screenshot of the nova portrait thingy?

[image loading]
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 06 2015 21:41 GMT
#71
[image loading]
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 06 2015 21:44 GMT
#72
I think that if life regen and mana regen were labeled as per second it would be better too, but maybe that's obvious.
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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4930 Posts
August 06 2015 21:44 GMT
#73
Ok, this should fix itself within the next 24 hours
Thanks for the heads up!
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 07 2015 20:11 GMT
#74
Many hero talents do not have per-level increases to them listed. I've started filling them out on Zagara and Chen, but am unsure of the exact notation I should use.

I'm assuming I want to list them as BASE + (additional amount per level). So 10 (+1 per level) would be:

At level 1: 11
At level 2: 12
At level 3: 13

etc.

But some figures I'm seeing in the wiki are BASE + (number of times leveled * an additional amount), so 10 (+1 per level) would be:

at level 1: 10
at level 2: 11
at level 3: 12

etc.

Which version should be used? I generally feel like +per level should just be for all levels(including 1), but I don't want to deviate from an existing style if there is one.
Don't Panic
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4930 Posts
August 07 2015 20:17 GMT
#75
On August 08 2015 05:11 MotherFox wrote:
I generally feel like +per level should just be for all levels(including 1), but I don't want to deviate from an existing style if there is one.

that sounds about right.
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 20:42:23
August 07 2015 20:40 GMT
#76
I guess the question is "When should the base start?"

For instance, ETC's stage dive is a skill taken at level 10 and damage is currently listed in the wiki as 220 + 12 per level. But the formula (if you want to know for an arbitrary level) is 100 + 12 per level. (so at level 10 it does 100 + 12 * 10 = 220 damage.)


I'm happy with starting to change things, but it seems like many entries were made on the assumption that you start at the skill's level and add from there.
Don't Panic
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4930 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 20:45:48
August 07 2015 20:44 GMT
#77
Hmm that should be discussed in a bigger round. Would you mind joining our chat and talk to people more knowledgeable about Heroes about this?

http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=#liquipedia
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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
August 08 2015 02:48 GMT
#78
All of those numbers have been added by lots of different people using different sets of rules. And as you said, some sites start the count at level 1 and list it as 12 (+2 per level) when they mean it starts at 10 base damage and goes up 2 damage per level to be 12 damage at level 1.

At some point I was going to go through it all and standardize it to be [level zero base damage] (+XX damage per level). I think that's the best option, but atm it's impossible to tell which sets of numbers are which way. I believe almost all the pages are the level 1 base damage method currently.
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 03:27:09
August 08 2015 03:26 GMT
#79
I will double check as I have free time and go through them one character at a time, doing the base [lvl 0] + [stats per level] formula style. I'll use tooltips and the character card in try mode as my go-to source material.
Don't Panic
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 04:55:35
August 08 2015 04:46 GMT
#80
On August 07 2015 06:44 FO-nTTaX wrote:
Ok, this should fix itself within the next 24 hours
Thanks for the heads up!


I just realized that overlapping issue is still happening. I was using my work computer, which runs on a much lower resolution than my home PC. if you adjust the width of your browser to be tiny, the character tiles tiles they auto-resort themselves. If the window is very thin, then they will start stacking over the section below them like in my screenshot above.

This affects functionality on lower-resolution machines like workstations, and possibly on smaller devices.
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