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On November 27 2016 20:48 Sewi wrote: Is it possible to set fixed hotkeys for Alarak's Ultimates? Like when you choose Counterstrike first but want it to always be on "D" while the other Ult is always on "R" no matter the picking order. I scrolled through the "hotkey" options but didn't find anything...
Did you check the quick cast settings? I haven't tested it myself but I see that there are two options for both Deadly Charge and Counter Strike, so it looks like it should be possible.
On November 28 2016 08:00 Nyan wrote: can i have dota like mouse3 camera options? the mouse cursor disappears and doesn't move.. i never use edge pan for my camera. this makes the game really awful other than the fact that i cannot click on anything (creeps, heroes, buildings) to get any information about what I'm dealing with.
Do you mean drag scroll? I think this is middle mouse button by default, but maybe I'm not understanding what you're looking for.
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So, Nexus Challenge has successfully got me hooked on the game again and I did my 10 HL placements.
First game I got yelled at for switching out of Mura when someone else locked Zarya (she's not solo-tank, got it).
Last game I got yelled at for locking Mura while the other guy was showing Leo (Leo's not a solo-tank right?). Of course, the yelling only started after we started losing teamfights post-10 (their damage outscaled ours I guess?). We were actually winning the early game pretty handily from what I could tell.
Anyways, TL; DR- question, is there a quick guide for when to solo or double warrior?
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Do ability power buffs like Arcane Brilliance or Banner of Dalaran affect healing spells?
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On December 24 2016 07:55 Wuster wrote: Anyways, TL; DR- question, is there a quick guide for when to solo or double warrior? you almost always want 2 melees with 1 support and usually 2 melees with 2 supports (notable exceptions being Tracer/Greymane instead of melee with Tass+healer and Medivh instead of 2nd melee in some comps)
Good "main" tanks are: Johanna, ETC, Muradin, anything else usually needs a 2nd warrior and not a melee assassin (but again, double support helps the lesser warriors out a lot) Tyrael is also a solo tank, but only for dive comps (Illidan, Kerrigan, Greymane)
You want to go double tank vs: -Kerrigan -Zeratul (vs Zera you can sometimes even get away with 3 warriors)
You can take 2nd warrior in almost any comp in a place of a Thrall, you just have to keep in mind the heroes' synergy and their matchups in the game (eg. Arthas is almost never taken in competitive except for the rare cases of him being taken as a Sonya counter on IF, Dehaka is taken because of his global and solo lane, Chen fits as a solo laner and Jaina/Li-ming soft counter etc.) It's not really "can I go this many supports/DPS/tanks?" as much as "what does actually work the best with my and the best vs their team?".
Zarya isn't really a tank/warrior, you have to treat her as a range dps+shield support. She usually works the best with a tank and a melee on her team (for example: Kerrigan+Tyrael, or Illidan+ETC etc.)
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On December 25 2016 07:36 Ej_ wrote:
Good "main" tanks are: Johanna, ETC, Muradin, anything else usually needs a 2nd warrior and not a melee assassin (but again, double support helps the lesser warriors out a lot) Tyrael is also a solo tank, but only for dive comps (Illidan, Kerrigan, Greymane)
wouldn't you consider Diablo a "main" tank nowadays?
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Did they change how Azmodan contributes exp? Doesn't feel like he benefits from xp generation on his trait minions at all anymore.
Used to be able to get over 100k Siege easy, just by being sure to spawn them in empty lanes.
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On December 26 2016 14:42 Cyanocyst wrote: Did they change how Azmodan contributes exp? Doesn't feel like he benefits from xp generation on his trait minions at all anymore.
Used to be able to get over 100k Siege easy, just by being sure to spawn them in empty lanes. I don't think they changed it recently, he only gets xp when his General of Hell lands the last hit on minions.
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On December 25 2016 07:36 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2016 07:55 Wuster wrote: Anyways, TL; DR- question, is there a quick guide for when to solo or double warrior? you almost always want 2 melees with 1 support and usually 2 melees with 2 supports (notable exceptions being Tracer/Greymane instead of melee with Tass+healer and Medivh instead of 2nd melee in some comps) Good "main" tanks are: Johanna, ETC, Muradin, anything else usually needs a 2nd warrior and not a melee assassin (but again, double support helps the lesser warriors out a lot) Tyrael is also a solo tank, but only for dive comps (Illidan, Kerrigan, Greymane) You want to go double tank vs: -Kerrigan -Zeratul (vs Zera you can sometimes even get away with 3 warriors) You can take 2nd warrior in almost any comp in a place of a Thrall, you just have to keep in mind the heroes' synergy and their matchups in the game (eg. Arthas is almost never taken in competitive except for the rare cases of him being taken as a Sonya counter on IF, Dehaka is taken because of his global and solo lane, Chen fits as a solo laner and Jaina/Li-ming soft counter etc.) It's not really "can I go this many supports/DPS/tanks?" as much as "what does actually work the best with my and the best vs their team?". Zarya isn't really a tank/warrior, you have to treat her as a range dps+shield support. She usually works the best with a tank and a melee on her team (for example: Kerrigan+Tyrael, or Illidan+ETC etc.)
Thanks for the write up! The meta has changed tons since I played it looks like. Surprised about double support, I actually haven't seen that yet in HL (fyi I placed Plat), maybe that's just a higher level thing or too much double tank (by me) crowded it out.
Looks like it might be time to learn some supports other than Lili (desperation pick).
Another question, now that I'm done with Nexus Challenge those heroes are all pretty good right? They seem viable so I'm going to practice those next I think.
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Is abathur good? What kind of team comps suit him? Which maps are good for him?
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On January 22 2017 09:00 BadBinky wrote: Is abathur good? What kind of team comps suit him? Which maps are good for him?
He is not considered good right now, though his winrate has never been superb. He excels on maps which are large and feature rotations: his ideal position is sitting out of sight near a lane of minions, soaking xp. He can then place mines up and down travel paths to slow enemy rotations.
the problem with abathur in HL is that there are many ways you can get completely hosed when fielding him. for instance,if you early pick him on cursed hollow and the enemy team picks up sylvanas there is a good chance it is just gg: sylv can crosspush during the first few objectives, denying abathur soak and potentially just taking out an entire fort. So the abathur team gives up structure, soak, and is still fighting almost 4v4 over the objective. The pitfalls are many for these comps, and generally you depend on teammates to behave a certain way when you draft abathur.
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I've started playing again after a long, long break and I'm having fun for now. The only thing that annoys me is having 14 heroes over lvl5 to play ranked games :< since I'm very short on gold + the reconnect system is probably the most stupid thing I've ever encountered. From time to time I'll drop from HOTS, reconnect takes ages since I have to launch game again + wait in-game cause "server is XX:XX ahead"
Currently doing AI 5minute games to farm some free mount and that's it, lmao.
Edit : Nvm you can buy hero codes on ebay for 1-2$
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On February 26 2017 15:24 739 wrote: I've started playing again after a long, long break and I'm having fun for now. The only thing that annoys me is having 14 heroes over lvl5 to play ranked games :< since I'm very short on gold + the reconnect system is probably the most stupid thing I've ever encountered. From time to time I'll drop from HOTS, reconnect takes ages since I have to launch game again + wait in-game cause "server is XX:XX ahead"
Currently doing AI 5minute games to farm some free mount and that's it, lmao.
Edit : Nvm you can buy hero codes on ebay for 1-2$
Gold is more plentiful now than it ever has been before, thanks largely to brawls giving 1k per week to anyone willing to put three games in. Daily quests take an average of 3.6 games per day to accomplish, assuming you don't let them gather up so you can achieve multiple at a time. If you do them individually and win 50% of the time, you'll get an average of 453 gold per day from them plus your gold from winning/losing. That means every week you get 3k(dailies+gold for winning/losing) + 1k(brawls) = 4k. Add on any additional gold you get from leveling heroes or playing extra games, and it's actually pretty easy work to be able to afford a 15k hero every three weeks.
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Since I posted on this forum last, I have expanded my hero roster in HotS. Was curious if I am on the right track for a good setup for Hero League.
Warrior - Artanis, Diablo, E.T.C., Murandin, Rexxar, Tyrael
Assassin - Falstad, Kael'thas, Kerrigan, Li-Ming, Raynor, The Butcher, Thrall, Tracer, Valla
Support - Brightwing, Li Li, Lucio, Malfurion, Rehgar
Specialist - Abathur, Azmodan, Gazlowe, Nazeebo, Sylvanas, Zagara
Multiclass - Varian
Getting next - Greymane, Jania, Johanna, Sonya, Zeratul
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On April 05 2017 19:31 BrentC wrote: Since I posted on this forum last, I have expanded my hero roster in HotS. Was curious if I am on the right track for a good setup for Hero League.
Warrior - Artanis, Diablo, E.T.C., Murandin, Rexxar, Tyrael
Assassin - Falstad, Kael'thas, Kerrigan, Li-Ming, Raynor, The Butcher, Thrall, Tracer, Valla
Support - Brightwing, Li Li, Lucio, Malfurion, Rehgar
Specialist - Abathur, Azmodan, Gazlowe, Nazeebo, Sylvanas, Zagara
Multiclass - Varian
Getting next - Greymane, Jania, Johanna, Sonya, Zeratul All fine. Lili, Gaz, Azmodan, and The Butcher probably wouldn't be super popular picks with your teammates but the rest is pretty standard.
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My question is similar to the one above. I just did my placement matches in Hero League (Gold 3 ;D) and wonder what staple heroes I should level up and learn next, having only a few so far.. My list at lvl 5+ for ranked:
Warrior: Anub, Arthas, Chen, Muradin, Diablo (I own Artanis, Johanna, Leoric, Rexxar, Sonya, Dehaka, Stitches, Varian and Zarya). Assassin: Illidan, Kerrigan, Thrall, Valla, Nova, Ragnaros, Raynor (I own Alarak, Jaina, Genji, Falstad, Samuro and Varian) Support: Malfurian (I own Kharazim and Li Li) Specialist: Azmodan
So its pretty clear that I havent played much, and that I chose the Bruiser pack :p Very low on supports and specialists. If there is 4-5 heroes that I should really add to my list for ranked play ASAP, which would they be?
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On May 31 2017 22:10 shabby wrote: My question is similar to the one above. I just did my placement matches in Hero League (Gold 3 ;D) and wonder what staple heroes I should level up and learn next, having only a few so far.. My list at lvl 5+ for ranked:
Warrior: Anub, Arthas, Chen, Muradin, Diablo (I own Artanis, Johanna, Leoric, Rexxar, Sonya, Dehaka, Stitches, Varian and Zarya). Assassin: Illidan, Kerrigan, Thrall, Valla, Nova, Ragnaros, Raynor (I own Alarak, Jaina, Genji, Falstad, Samuro and Varian) Support: Malfurian (I own Kharazim and Li Li) Specialist: Azmodan
So its pretty clear that I havent played much, and that I chose the Bruiser pack :p Very low on supports and specialists. If there is 4-5 heroes that I should really add to my list for ranked play ASAP, which would they be?
Tank: I would replace chen with any of the other tanks in your account. I love chen, but he struggles right now. He can be ok when hes the solo laner on a map like braxxis but you're setting yourself up for an up hill fight.
Assassin: I'd personally trade out Nova and Illidan for Genji/Falstad. Illidan is kind of a loaded pick because if you don't know what you're doing, you're the squeaky wheel, and Nova can be good but typically is dead weight because she only can execute kills and sometimes not even that well.
Support: I'd add lucio, and Morales. Malf is good but you'll fight over him with the opposing team often.
Specialist: Nazeebo is popular for stall compositions, sylvanas's trait is amazing but she isn't so popular both are better than Azmodan.
Just my two cents.
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On May 31 2017 23:24 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2017 22:10 shabby wrote: My question is similar to the one above. I just did my placement matches in Hero League (Gold 3 ;D) and wonder what staple heroes I should level up and learn next, having only a few so far.. My list at lvl 5+ for ranked:
Warrior: Anub, Arthas, Chen, Muradin, Diablo (I own Artanis, Johanna, Leoric, Rexxar, Sonya, Dehaka, Stitches, Varian and Zarya). Assassin: Illidan, Kerrigan, Thrall, Valla, Nova, Ragnaros, Raynor (I own Alarak, Jaina, Genji, Falstad, Samuro and Varian) Support: Malfurian (I own Kharazim and Li Li) Specialist: Azmodan
So its pretty clear that I havent played much, and that I chose the Bruiser pack :p Very low on supports and specialists. If there is 4-5 heroes that I should really add to my list for ranked play ASAP, which would they be?
Tank: I would replace chen with any of the other tanks in your account. I love chen, but he struggles right now. He can be ok when hes the solo laner on a map like braxxis but you're setting yourself up for an up hill fight. Assassin: I'd personally trade out Nova and Illidan for Genji/Falstad. Illidan is kind of a loaded pick because if you don't know what you're doing, you're the squeaky wheel, and Nova can be good but typically is dead weight because she only can execute kills and sometimes not even that well. Support: I'd add lucio, and Morales. Malf is good but you'll fight over him with the opposing team often. Specialist: Nazeebo is popular for stall compositions, sylvanas's trait is amazing but she isn't so popular both are better than Azmodan. Just my two cents.
Thank you!
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Hope this still qualifies as a simple question. What tank would you recommend against a specialist/non-teamfight composition?
Played against Sylvanas, Vikings, Azmodan, Abathur and whatever assassin on Infernal Shrines; HL low gold if it matters.
Took Stitches as last pick and while we won every shrine, every teamfight and in the end the game, it was a grueling, super-unfun match, ~30 minutes of chasing around the map and playing whack-a-mole. Would Dehaka have been the better choice in hindsight, possibly even Falstad or a stealther to hunt Aba and the Vikings?
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It's a question of your overall team-comp rather than a single pick which is going to allow you to counter such a draft. However if you are last pick and your comp still lacks a tank I would definitely have gone with dehaka.
Your overall team-comp should probably have at least one global (falstad/dehaka) in response to such a draft. Further, good solo laners which can pressure them out of lanes (sonya, gul'dan, valla, greymane) should all be a priority. Arthas as 2.nd tank to Sonya would be ideal for the shrines (or you since they have no real frontline you could sneak in a kerrigan) to ensure only as little time as possible for them to split push. Pretty much any healer should be fine though if you can land Gul'dan Ariel should be a priority. Uther and Rehgar would also be good. BW is an option but not one I'm personally too fond of.
Regardless the game is going to feel a bit like whack-a-mole but overall your laning and 3-man push should be strong enough to give you the initiative during laning stages and ensure shrines.
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I'm also curious as to what their team chat looked like (assuming you weren't in team draft). Whether it was like 'hello guys, let's try this, it will be fun!' or 'FU I spe or afk' all around.
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