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I dont have naxx cards, is it still worth playing?

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Bazeleel
Profile Joined May 2010
United States21 Posts
September 08 2014 03:01 GMT
#1
As the title said, I dont have any of the naxx cards past the first wing. Can i still perform well and do I have any chance at still hitting the high ranks?
Whoisgoku
Profile Joined August 2014
Canada3 Posts
September 08 2014 03:08 GMT
#2
Depends on the deck you plan on playing. You can get to legend with Hunter very easily without too many good cards.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4722 Posts
September 08 2014 03:45 GMT
#3
Since there is no mechanism in the game that would allow you to get missing cards ever, short term or long term, you should probably quit now.
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iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
September 08 2014 04:17 GMT
#4
Nope. Much of the new cards are crazy OP at the moment and they are defining the current metagame. Just do the daily quests (trying to get the highest paying ones) at low ranks and call it a day (~10days to get 700g). It's what I'm doing and I have just over a wing to go. Or you could always just pay for the wings but that's kind of besides the point of F2P.
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Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
September 08 2014 04:19 GMT
#5
non optimal so expect to lose more then you should but yeah its possible
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Xathanael
Profile Joined May 2014
United States0 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 04:44:49
September 08 2014 04:44 GMT
#6
Also consider that you unlock some class cards earlier than others and some neutral cards are more beneficial to some classes than others:
- The best class cards are arguably Webspinner (Hunter) and Death's Bite (Warrior), which are unlocked in the second and fourth wings, respectively. It will only take you 700g (and four PVE wins) to unlock Webspinner, but it'll cost you 2100g to get Death's Bite.
- The second wing also nets you Unstable Ghoul (great for Warrior to combo with Enrage minions, Acolyte of Pain, Armorsmith, Frothing Berserker), Sludge Belcher, and Loatheb, the latter two being almost mandatory in the 5-slot.

So, my suggestion would be to save for the second wing as a priority if you plan to play constructed. Depending on what class you favor, you may wish to spring for subsequent wings sooner rather than later.

Note: I have paid gold-only for the second and third wings and have enough to unlock the fourth, although I don't want to eat into my Arena fee buffer.
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 14:54:23
September 08 2014 05:07 GMT
#7
there are still enough decks out there that don't need Naxx cards.
You can play midrange hunter without traps/bow and don't need Mad Scientist, Webspinner or the Haunted Creeper.
You can play an aggro version of Zoolock without any Naxx cards (Kleinmuuhg ended the last season on rank 69 legend with that kind of deck. No Naxx cards)
You can play the original Zoolock
You can play ramp druid as if nothing had changed
You can play control Priest as it was before Naxx came out...

There is a lot of stuff to play that still works fine. Maybe some things work better now with Naxx cards, and some decks just don't fare well against the current meta-game (aka what classes/types of decks you mostly encounter atm). You can totally hit the high ranks though without any Naxx cards as long as you pick the right strategy and have some luck on your side.
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Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
September 08 2014 06:12 GMT
#8
As other's have mentioned, the second wing is probably the best value per gold in the entire game. After that, the wings have pretty much one good card each, and you could argue either way on wings vs packs.

But to answer your question:

Can you perform well? Yes, of course. I made an EU account a couple weeks ago when I realized how absurdly easy it is to make a top-tier Hunter deck, and did just that. With a few hundred dust and 700 gold for the second wing of Naxx, you can make legend rank with Hunter. Other classes will be much harder. This is because many of the basic (free) Hunter cards are top-tier, whereas you will generally need several epics/legendaries to make another top-tier deck.

Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
September 08 2014 07:21 GMT
#9
So basicly what you all said is that hunter is op and game is fine without the naxx expansion. I would say hs is much better than before Naxx.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 08:45:27
September 08 2014 08:44 GMT
#10
My problem with Naxx is that i only need 2 cards (i dont play huntard, fuck them) Sludge Belcher and Loatheb, and i wont save and drop thousands of golds to get 2 cards.

But then again they (+webspinner) are ruining low level constructed for sure
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
DiceToss
Profile Joined February 2008
Croatia62 Posts
September 08 2014 09:15 GMT
#11
From the perspective of a very stingy and unfrequent player, yes you can, but don't expect to be playing control. I got into Hearthstone superlate (way after beta), never spent any money on it, and went for 2-3 weeks without playing every once in a while. Most notably, I stopped playing right when Naxx came in because yay, summer! I still easily complete most of my quests by playing hunter or zoo in constructed, plus my own ramp druid because I was lucky enough to get Cairne and Cenarius from packs. Every other quest, I complete in arena: it became ridiculously more lucrative for me after I got better, I went from 3 wins on average to 5.8 which is just below being able to go infinite, but with quests allows me to get more and more packs to slowly expand my collection and periodically open Naxx wings (only one wing remaining!). I play around 1 hour per day on average, 3 or 4 times per week. In this season, i started in rank 25 (inactivity), got to rank 13 in a week, and saved enough to add webspinners to my hunter deck. Yes, the meta might be toxic, but that is actually fun to play for me

My deck:

Webspinner x2
Timberwolf x2
Hunter's mark x2
deadly shot x2
flare x2
Scavenging hyenna x2
River crocolisk x2
Houndmaster x2
Savannah highmane x2
Oasis snapjaw x1
Stampeding codo x1
Animal companion x2
Starving buzzard x2
Unleash the hounds x2
Dire wolf alpha x1
Stonetusk boar x2
tracking x1
GOGOG
DiceToss
Profile Joined February 2008
Croatia62 Posts
September 08 2014 09:26 GMT
#12
Oops, small mistake: I shifted some thnigs around, so I forgot what had to leave the deck to make room for webspinners: no tracking, -1 scavenger, +2 kill commands (duh!).
GOGOG
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
September 08 2014 09:47 GMT
#13
Just pay real money to get the full expansion. It's cheap as hell anyway.
Bazeleel
Profile Joined May 2010
United States21 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 11:30:48
September 08 2014 11:29 GMT
#14
These answer's make me so sad So hunter is broken once again and the game is now pay to win is what I am gathering I can not stand playing a hunter sadly.
Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
September 08 2014 11:47 GMT
#15
It's not p2win. Did Tides won WEC money with pay 2 win strategy? He did not.
Money just get you cards faster. And when you get them you still win or loose with them :D
I'm kinda in the same boat as you as I stopped playing before Naxx after months of getting the basic legends to play with.
But for me is more of "the game is not that fun to play" not "I have no Naxx cards than screw it".
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
September 08 2014 11:51 GMT
#16
It's pay for convenience (skip grinding gold, but after grind is complete you have equal decks). Not pay to win
Malhavoc
Profile Joined October 2010
Italy308 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 12:32:45
September 08 2014 12:21 GMT
#17
There are still a good amount of decks which can be played without naxx cards. And after all, pro can even get to legend with free decks, so it's not that you actually NEED certain cards to play and reach high levels. Surely there are decent alternatives you can swap in, like most people do when they play a deck but don't still have all the "optimal" cards. You can still get to legend with a 50+% win rate, you would just get there FASTER with and higher rate.

That said, of course try in the long run to get at least the cards you actually need to play the deck(s) you want to play, to be able to have optimal lists.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
September 08 2014 14:16 GMT
#18
I encourage reading Fi0nas post
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Thordane
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada0 Posts
September 08 2014 19:35 GMT
#19
You can still get into Naxx, it isn't going anywhere. Just keep playing, have fun, and buy into a Naxx wing once in a while.

You may not be able to make certain popular decks, but you still win without Naxx cards. Plus the arena will let you play with all Naxx cards, regardless of what wings you have bought.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
September 08 2014 20:38 GMT
#20
On September 08 2014 14:07 Fi0na wrote:
there are still enough decks out there that don't need Naxx cards.
You can play midrange hunter without traps/bow and don't need Mad Scientist, the Spider or the Mad Scientist.
You can play an aggro version of Zoolock without any Naxx cards (Kleinmuuhg ended the last season on rank 69 legend with that kind of deck. No Naxx cards)
You can play the original Zoolock
You can play ramp druid as if nothing had changed
You can play control Priest as it was before Naxx came out...

There is a lot of stuff to play that still works fine. Maybe some things work better now with Naxx cards, and some decks just don't fare well against the current meta-game (aka what classes/types of decks you mostly encounter atm). You can totally hit the high ranks though without any Naxx cards as long as you pick the right strategy and have some luck on your side.

mad scientist so NOT OP he mentions you dont need it twice in the same sentence
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Pedro195
Profile Joined June 2014
0 Posts
September 08 2014 21:12 GMT
#21
You could play control paladin and not be missing very much and if you unlocked the second wing you could play the full deck
Came Norrection
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada168 Posts
September 08 2014 23:47 GMT
#22
Playing and unlocking cards is most of the fun in this game imo. If you don't want to play because you don't have the cards, then CCGs are probably not for you. Sure competitive play is hard without all the cards but unless you really want to make legend, you won't need all the cards to enjoy the game. You even earn gold by playing and that can be used to unlock all the cards eventually.
"The lie is just a great story ruined by the truth."
someone2040
Profile Joined February 2014
Australia2 Posts
September 09 2014 00:08 GMT
#23
I think if Trump can pilot free to play decks into Legend, then even now in the Naxx world it'd still be possible to do so.
You just may be missing out on some important cards in the meta, but at the end of the day, unless you've got most of the legendaries and cards, you're going to be missing some important cards anyway.

Good thing about Naxx, it's not going away anytime soon. You can always save up your gold later and put it towards Naxxaramas if you feel you need to grab some of the cards from the Naxx set.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
September 09 2014 06:51 GMT
#24
On September 09 2014 09:08 someone2040 wrote:
I think if Trump can pilot free to play decks into Legend, then even now in the Naxx world it'd still be possible to do so.
You just may be missing out on some important cards in the meta, but at the end of the day, unless you've got most of the legendaries and cards, you're going to be missing some important cards anyway.

Good thing about Naxx, it's not going away anytime soon. You can always save up your gold later and put it towards Naxxaramas if you feel you need to grab some of the cards from the Naxx set.

imho by the time one could save up those thousands of golds for Naxx from dailies, the new expansion would be out
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
September 09 2014 07:00 GMT
#25
On September 09 2014 08:47 Came Norrection wrote:
Playing and unlocking cards is most of the fun in this game imo. If you don't want to play because you don't have the cards, then CCGs are probably not for you


That's true.
byf
Profile Joined February 2014
4 Posts
September 09 2014 09:25 GMT
#26
Hi

I'm very new to the game, really enjoying it and intend to continue playing.

I don't mind playing with limited/less cards than everyone else for now, if I am able to eventually unlock them all (without paying real money)

From this topic you seem to suggest that I will have a limited amount of time to unlock the naxxramis (sp?) cards? Then I may never be able to unlock them, is this true?

Also are there any other cards that may have been released in the past which I am now permanently unable to unlock?

Thanks in advance if anyone can help, hopefully I will be posting more in the future as I just started playing couple days ago but got the itch real bad.
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
September 09 2014 11:22 GMT
#27
No, you will always be able to unlock the Naxx cards. The posting from Malinor is complete bullshit. Don't listen to that.

There is not a single card that you can't unlock without real money or can't unlock anymore apart from the golden versions of 2 cards but if a card is golden has no impact on the gameplay.

It will however take a very very long time to unlock everything without real money. I have been playing for 8 months and I am still missing more than half of the epics and legendaries. You can be faster but then you have to play for several hours per day on average.
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klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
September 09 2014 15:14 GMT
#28
Personally regarding earnings in Hearthstone I had the luck of farming arena at the begining of beta where everyone was very very noob and I enjoyed a lot of easy win and easy gold by constructing very good arena decks, now there is enough guides and the game is simple enough to make sure everyone with decent understanding of the guides they read can just have a good deck composition making things harder to farm cards by arena .

Now the process is very long and I find the normal play much more reliable to farm especially concerning naxx. It takes forever to unlock but full naxx is not necessary to play the game and have fun you can have very competitive decks with only the 2 first wings unlocked.

Concerning class specific card I think blizzard intentionally put the most interesting at the end wings and the most useless at the begining to force people to buy but I see evil everywhere regarding recent blizzard decisions on their game so I might be biased.
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