Major Spoilers - NAXX: 5 new cards, UI , with pics

On June 24 2014 10:41 chizuk wrote:
So it IS fake?

If so, why were all the pics deleted within 5 minutes on battle.net?

On June 24 2014 10:09 S_SienZ wrote:
wat

Kel Thuzad...... So good if you have board.....

Sir Zelick, new tech counter to Freeze Mage?

On June 24 2014 10:45 S1eth wrote:

The reason all posts were removed is because it is most likely legit.



Sir Zelick is an NPC only minion and not collectible.
You're fighting against the 4 horsemen. All of them have only 7 health (even the hero).
Don't even think about stealthing a Sir Zelick in ranked.

On June 24 2014 10:45 S1eth wrote:

The reason all posts were removed is because it is most likely legit.



Sir Zelick is an NPC only minion and not collectible.
You're fighting against the 4 horsemen. All of them have only 7 health (even the hero).
Don't even think about stealthing a Sir Zelick in ranked.

Whether they are real or fake blizzard would be sure to delete them instantly though considering how close we are to naxx a few leaks are not all together unexpected.

On June 24 2014 11:49 S1eth wrote:
I consider Feugen a rather average vanilla minion. You get better stats from a Twilight Drake, and Spiteful Smith is nearly as good, but with the added effect.

If you want to make use of his effect, you have to play the 7/4 as well, which I consider a downside. (and you have to draw and play both of them, and they must both die (=not get hexed))
It then depends on how good Thaddius is.

On June 24 2014 11:49 chizuk wrote:


I posted the fake Hunter's bow, and it stayed on the forums for over a week. Multiple threads were there, none were deleted.

Today, at least 10 topics have been posted (I've been refreshing the page. FUN!) and they delete them all!

On June 24 2014 11:49 S1eth wrote:
I consider Feugen a rather average vanilla minion. You get better stats from a Twilight Drake, and Spiteful Smith is nearly as good, but with the added effect.

If you want to make use of his effect, you have to play the 7/4 as well, which I consider a downside. (and you have to draw and play both of them, and they must both die (=not get hexed))
It then depends on how good Thaddius is.

On June 24 2014 12:02 Adreme wrote:


Aside from the fact that they are better then Drake because earth shock exists we also don't know if that effect can be silenced or if it just an explanation of what the card is similar to how you cant silence off beast or dragon or murloc. If it cant be silenced off then you basically are left with hex, poly, and poison seeds as the only real ways to prevent thaddius but it does require a 2 card investment so there are downsides to it.

As a base 4/7 for 5 Feugen would be an above average legendary pick in arena for sure (I value creatures with more then 5 health and 2 attack very highly) and when you can fit that mold you are doing good.

On June 24 2014 12:09 stealthrider wrote:
Way too many screens off what looks to be an iPad to be fake, if you ask me.

Leaks like this mean we're right around the corner. Fourth of July-ish release?

On June 24 2014 12:06 S1eth wrote:


"better than drake" for 1 more mana. And the drake might have more than 7 health in the correct deck (aka handlock)
Why wouldn't you be able to silence it? It's simply a deathrattle. Of course you would need to silence the second minion played. You cannot silence away the fact that Feugen or Stalagg died. You can only silence the deathrattle from the second minion.
Poison Seeds does not transform minions. It destroys them normally and triggers their deathrattles.

Yes, I think he's good in Arena.

On June 24 2014 12:35 InfMorse wrote:
This is going to be pretty cool. Are they getting rid of practice mode? My guess is relocating it to play but then they need to adjust some quest, right?

Anyway, my GF is a casual all the way. I bet she'll love this.

On June 24 2014 10:13 chizuk wrote:
Not sure about Sir Zelick, btw...

It is a basic card, meaning an opponent AI minion. Very likely it won't be acquireable...

Also...

Credit to the guy who posted the link originally in Reynad's "Hearth Wars" chat channel during the tournament.

Hearthpwn.com picked up my post on the hearthpwn.com forums and posted it all the screencaps on their front page.

Battle.net forums deleted my posts the first 3 times I posted them. All follow up posts from other users also got deleted. And my account was suspended. Blizzard wil be pissed.

On June 24 2014 12:35 InfMorse wrote:
This is going to be pretty cool. Are they getting rid of practice mode? My guess is relocating it to play but then they need to adjust some quest, right?

Anyway, my GF is a casual all the way. I bet she'll love this.

On June 24 2014 12:43 Amui wrote:

It may be a basic, but it could also mean that it's a guaranteed drop for Naxx, and you get a golden version for beating a heroic version or something like that?

On June 24 2014 15:34 Circumstance wrote:
For 5 mana each, Thaddius would have to be one HELL of a game-changer to be worth the investment.

On June 24 2014 10:13 chizuk wrote:
Not sure about Sir Zelick, btw...

It is a basic card, meaning an opponent AI minion. Very likely it won't be acquireable...

On June 24 2014 16:54 Nekovivie wrote:
Zeliek would be so awesome. Imagine stealthing that and then just laughing at everyone who isn't a hunter.

On June 24 2014 12:43 Adreme wrote:


I would envision them moving it into the solo adventure modes section since it is technically a part of that.

On June 24 2014 21:58 nickisthereason wrote:
A note on Kel'thuzad:

How has no one mentioned this?! His card says, "At the end of THE turn summon all friendly minions that died THIS turn." This means that as long as Kel'thuzad is alive any of your minions that die on your OR your opponents turn will be re-summoned for the rest of the game. Maybe everyone knew this but it seems like some believe it only works on the turn you play him, but that is not how the card is written.

The importance of silencing Kel'Thuzad is 10x greater than any other minion.

On June 24 2014 22:38 S1eth wrote:


Think about it.

Kel'thuzad + Reincarnation.

Kel'thuzad (1) dies, summon Kel'thuzad (2)
At the end of the turn:
Kel'thuzad (2) triggers, sees Kel'thuzad (1) died, summons Kel'thuzad (3)
Kel'thuzad (3) triggers, sees Kel'thuzad (1) died, summons Kel'thuzad (4)
Kel'thuzad (4) triggers, sees Kel'thuzad (1) died, summons Kel'thuzad (5)
Kel'thuzad (5) triggers, sees Kel'thuzad (1) died, summons Kel'thuzad (6)
Kel'thuzad (6) triggers, sees Kel'thuzad (1) died, summons Kel'thuzad (7)
Kel'thuzad (7) triggers, sees Kel'thuzad (1) died, summons Kel'thuzad (8)

full board, 7 6/8 minions,
totally balanced.

On June 24 2014 22:44 jrkirby wrote:


I doubt it would work quite like that. I'd guess you'd end up with 2 Kel'thuzads though, which would still be pretty sick.
Unless they kill both/silence one, all your minions are immortal reincarnating destroyers.

On June 24 2014 22:45 nickisthereason wrote:


You would have to Faceless Kel'Thuzad first, since if you kill him with Rebirth (is this what you meant?) he wouldn't summon himself.

But ya, faceless Kel'thuzad > anything else.

On June 24 2014 22:51 Nekovivie wrote:
It depends if KT only revives creatures that have died while he is present on the board. That could be crucial, really.

On June 24 2014 23:00 nickisthereason wrote:
Kel'Thuzad does not have to be present on board. You could suicide minions and then play KT and he will summon them at end of turn. Also If you FM Kel'thuzad and suicide him you will get 2 KT at end of turn and also possibly summon 2 of every other minion that died that turn.

On June 24 2014 23:09 Fi0na wrote:
Amaz just claimed on his stream that this Naxx spoiler was fake and apparently had an official source for that which I did not fully understand (someone's twitter). Anyone got a source?

On June 24 2014 23:09 Fi0na wrote:
Amaz just claimed on his stream that this Naxx spoiler was fake and apparently had an official source for that which I did not fully understand (someone's twitter). Anyone got a source?

On June 24 2014 23:15 BadHaiku wrote:
Why is there an assumption that KT does not have to be alive and on the board to trigger? No other card so far with similarly phrased trigger text fires anywhere but on the board. Otherwise Northshire Cleric would continue to draw you cards after it dies, right? And Gruul would come into play as a 22/22 after growing in the deck for 7+ turns.

On June 24 2014 12:19 S1eth wrote:
Example:

You play Feugen.
Feugen dies. Deathrattle activates, but does nothing, because Stalagg hasn't died yet.
You play Stalagg
Your opponent silences Stalagg.
Stalagg dies, and his deathrattle doesn't trigger because of the silence.
Your opponent plays Feugen.
Feugen dies, and his deathrattle triggers. Since a "Stalagg" died earlier this game (even though it was yours and it was silenced), it summons Thaddius for your opponent.

On June 24 2014 23:24 ystao wrote:


Then your opponent plays his Stalagg, you kill his Stalagg only to face a second Thaddius on your opponent's side.

What's the stat for Thaddius anyway?

On June 24 2014 23:33 Draconicfire wrote:
Wait, so for Stalagg and Feugen if I'm getting this right. If say, I play Stalagg and on the next turn Feugen gets summoned by my opponent and kills my Stalagg. If I kill Feugen does he get Thaddius?

That's like bringing Sylvannas vs Sylvannas to the next level.

On June 24 2014 23:52 S_SienZ wrote:
Seems like the most sure-fire way of guarantee-ing Thaddius for yourself is just wait til a 4/7 has died and do a Turn 8 combo with the 7/4 and BGH.

On June 25 2014 00:03 nickisthereason wrote:
What if Thaddius reads..

7/7 Deathrattle: Summon a Feugen and a Stalagg.

Lol. The madness!!

Legendary Reward: Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.

On June 25 2014 02:28 Pardus wrote:
I don't know about the rest of those alleged "cards" but Feugen and Stallag look to me like AI minions. Those of You who play WOW know that to activate Thaddius U have to kill Feugen and Stallag first at the same time. I think these are minions U have to KILL to ACTIVATE match with Thaddius not cards for U to play . Those who cleared Naxxramas in WOW will probably agree with me. Blizz I believe stated that bosses in Naxx HS will be similar to encounters in WOW. I might be wrong but these all look like AI cards to me which U will have to defeat NOT obtain, but I guess all will be revealed soon enough.

On June 25 2014 02:28 Pardus wrote:
I don't know about the rest of those alleged "cards" but Feugen and Stallag look to me like AI minions. Those of You who play WOW know that to activate Thaddius U have to kill Feugen and Stallag first at the same time. I think these are minions U have to KILL to ACTIVATE match with Thaddius not cards for U to play . Those who cleared Naxxramas in WOW will probably agree with me. Blizz I believe stated that bosses in Naxx HS will be similar to encounters in WOW. I might be wrong but these all look like AI cards to me which U will have to defeat NOT obtain, but I guess all will be revealed soon enough.

On June 25 2014 04:51 Greendotz wrote:
I'm glad to get this information and all, but I do feel a little bad for companies that put a lot of work into a new exciting product only to have it leaked. Both revealing an unfinished product and essentially pissing on their big "reveal" fanfare.

On June 25 2014 04:51 Greendotz wrote:
I'm glad to get this information and all, but I do feel a little bad for companies that put a lot of work into a new exciting product only to have it leaked. Both revealing an unfinished product and essentially pissing on their big "reveal" fanfare.

On June 25 2014 05:02 nickisthereason wrote:


Yeah you're right. Poor, billion dollar company, Blizzard. Boo-freakin'-hoo.

On June 25 2014 06:03 Pardus wrote:
and where does it say they are reward for beating construct quarter?? Do U have some information from blizzard or is it your naked assumption??? After all blizz stated in one of the interviews that there will be one legendary card for beating each quarter not 2 which can then summon third....that is a bit retarded cause it would mean U get 3 legendaries for beating plague quarter.

On June 25 2014 05:02 nickisthereason wrote:


Yeah you're right. Poor, billion dollar company, Blizzard. Boo-freakin'-hoo.

On June 25 2014 06:14 Zaros wrote:


look at the screenshots you will see.

On June 25 2014 07:00 Pardus wrote:
hmmmm after taking closer look at those screenshots the person on it presses the chest with the finger.......suggesting that it pops up what is the reward in the chest P. Same thing with Kel Thuzad......I think I might owe U apologies Zaros

On June 25 2014 04:54 Zaros wrote:


they had their big reveal 3 months ago its about time they released it

On June 25 2014 08:37 Doc Daneeka wrote:


It'd be a bit much to hope for a release this week, but I'm mildly hopeful for an actual date later this week. SOMETHING has to come this week, or not much later, or else what was the point of hyping the damn thing up for 9 straight weeks? and it's going to take 5 weeks to release in its entirety so they'd better get started before half their player base fucks back off to school.

On June 25 2014 15:43 Mezmorizorz wrote:
Guys, this is a hoax.
1. 100% of the art shown is from the WoW TCG.
2. The cards are horrendously OP
3. The picture that shows the text bubble is obviously photoshopped. Like, photoshops don't get easier to spot than that.
4. The source even says it's fake, and no, the fact that the source is now down doesn't prove anything. Hell, the fact that everyone is using that as evidence towards it being real just proves that it's an effective tool for setting up a hoax. Plus, that article was up nowhere near long enough for it to be a DMCA thing(it needs to be done in writing, and you can't use a template because you run the risk of losing your case if the accused decides to escalate the case).
6. Someone once faked an entire WoW class in 5 minutes. This is child's play in comparison, and the class looked even more professional than this thing does.

Also, this part doesn't confirm that it's a hoax, but the web spinner class challenge is the stupidest game mechanic ever. Yeah, let's make a fight that relies solely on RNG. That's definitely not a terrible idea.

On June 25 2014 18:57 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
actually the web spinner challenge sounds like the most awesome thing ever and i will be sad if i dont get to play it
some day i wish for a fun playmode where one is allowed to play as many cards of a type as one likes (in custom games vs friends etc)

On June 25 2014 06:16 idkfa wrote:


Blizzard makes games we like and makes them well. I don't see them doing wrong by anybody. Why are you taking this attitude?

On June 25 2014 21:01 nickisthereason wrote:


Im not hating on Blizzard. They are great at making games, but they are even better at making a profit. And to 'feel bad' for a company that makes hundreds of millions of dollars, who is known for, when it all comes down to it, just caring about money, is silly.

Its like saying "I feel bad for D̶o̶n̶a̶l̶d̶ Trump because I saw his ice cream fall of his cone when he was at Disney World, which he had all to himself since he bought every ticket that day."

On June 25 2014 21:48 Nekovivie wrote:


Trump robbed Disney world tickets from the children!

On June 25 2014 21:01 nickisthereason wrote:


Im not hating on Blizzard. They are great at making games, but they are even better at making a profit. And to 'feel bad' for a company that makes hundreds of millions of dollars, who is known for, when it all comes down to it, just caring about money, is silly.

Its like saying "I feel bad for Donald Trump because I saw his ice cream fall off his cone when he was at Disney World, which he had all to himself since he bought every ticket that day."

On June 25 2014 23:32 Schelim wrote:

i think there's a difference between financial success and having the fruits of your creative work spoiled though. also not every employee that works on Hearthstone is necessarily rich just because their company is.

On June 26 2014 04:39 S1eth wrote:
So, could we discuss the actual cards a bit more rather than Blizzard and their wealth?
Here some cards that haven't been talked about a lot:

1/4 gargoyles that heal to full at the beginning of your turn (mana cost unknown)
Maexxna: 2/8 beast for 5 mana. Destroy any minion damaged by this minion.
Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.
2/8 minion for 3 mana. Has Taunt and a Deathrattle that gives your opponent a random minion from his deck.
2/1 spider for 2 mana that turns into two 1/1 spiders on death.
4/3 minion for 5 mana with Taunt that becomes a 1/1 minion with Taunt on death.

On June 26 2014 05:20 Mortal wrote:

Maex seems interesting, although if that's an actual playable card, doesn't that go against the theme of Naxx in this? Maex was a boss, and it looks like at least Patchwerk and Gothikk are "characters" not cards.

Where is Loatheb image?

On June 26 2014 05:32 S1eth wrote:

Baron Rivendare is also a boss character from the 4 horsemen fight, and is a playable legendary reward.

On June 26 2014 07:02 Mortal wrote:

I feel similarly about that. I feel like making some playable cards, and some not is just an odd call. They could at least make the rest of the horsemen playable. It's nit-picking, but continuity is nice.

On June 26 2014 07:04 S1eth wrote:

But then they wouldn't be able to make overpowered cards for your AI opponent.

On June 26 2014 07:02 Mortal wrote:

I feel similarly about that. I feel like making some playable cards, and some not is just an odd call. They could at least make the rest of the horsemen playable. It's nit-picking, but continuity is nice.

On June 26 2014 02:33 Doc Daneeka wrote:
in this day and age, probably very few people give a shit about the surprise, but i'm one of them .

On June 26 2014 13:35 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:


you just went into a thread with " Major Spoilers" in the title .....

On June 26 2014 19:18 Zaros wrote:
its been a week since the last class card reveal maybe we will get a release date today

On June 26 2014 12:54 TiberiusAk wrote:

I think this is where lore comes in because in the context of the raid, the continuity is solid; the choice of Maexxna and Loatheb, but not Patchwerk and Gothikk is consistent because they are the last (and biggest) bosses of their wings. See here for the list: http://www.wowhead.com/zone=3456/naxxramas.

Thaddius (summoned by the guys you have to kill to start his encounter), Baron Rivendare (not sure why him over/instead the other 4, but there's probably a lore reason), and Kel'Thuzad complete the set of "end" bosses.

On June 26 2014 05:20 Mortal wrote:

Maex seems interesting, although if that's an actual playable card, doesn't that go against the theme of Naxx in this? Maex was a boss, and it looks like at least Patchwerk and Gothikk are "characters" not cards.

On June 26 2014 22:50 awesomoecalypse wrote:


All of the bosses are going to be legendary cards as well, similar to how many of the enemies you face in the tutorial are legendary cards in the game.

Also, I'm pretty sure the 1/4 gargoyles that heal back up are computer only cards. They didn't seem to have a rarity.

Which does raise the question...can Priests use thoughtsteal against bosses in Naxx? Stealing some of these sweet OP computer cards could be fun.

On June 27 2014 00:39 Zaros wrote:


Just don't use thoughtsteal against patchwerk

On June 27 2014 07:13 Zaros wrote:
guess no release on july 1st or they would have told us by now, probably going to come so late that the hype just dies.

Just wanted to give everyone a head's up that we are currently targeting to release Curse of Naxxramas during the month of July. Unfortunately, we still have a lot of implementing and bug fixing to get through, so please stay tuned!

With that said, we are also targeting to reveal pricing details regarding Curse of Naxxramas next week on July 1st, so please keep an eye out for that.

On June 27 2014 14:12 TiberiusAk wrote:


We won't get a release, but we will get the pricing information:


Source: http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/13271477080#13

On June 27 2014 17:53 ArieDeOwner wrote:
Well some time to grind out some more gold in arena and with quests. How much gold is everybody hoarding? Im at about 2500, hoping it's enough.

On June 27 2014 20:49 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
i hope they dont raise the price because so many ppl are hoarding money
screw all of your self-disciplin!

On June 27 2014 21:27 Schelim wrote:

tbh there's just nothing i really want right now. like, there's plenty of cards that i don't have, but i don't really want to use any of them. so i have no use for the gold.

On June 24 2014 11:52 chizuk wrote:


I hope it'll be a 10/10

On June 28 2014 00:15 Plaid_Dragon wrote:


No no no... make him a 6/12 so he doesn't get BGH'd the instant he comes out. :D

On June 28 2014 00:45 Hryul wrote:
But Feugen can't be Earth Shocked. So it would improve the MU of handlock vs shaman. On the other hand, he's a turn slower and you don't have anything to play t4 beside Mountain Giant and board clears thus making the deck less consistent.
I'm not sure but I think it's too slow for handlock.

On June 29 2014 21:42 AHeroicKumquat wrote:
The Kel'thuzad dream:

Turn 9 Kel'Thuzad
Turn 10 cairn ancestral spirit rebirth

I believe that would give you a board of:

kel'thuzad, cairn with ancestral spirit (from rebirth), another cairn with ancestral spirit (from kel'thuzad), an ordinary cairn (from ancestral spirit) and a baine (from cairn's deathrattle).