EPTMousavi, I don't know much about him, but I'm amazed by how he's able to gather people en masse, while defying the suggestions of the Supreme Ayatollah.
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broz0rs
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Mousavi, I don't know much about him, but I'm amazed by how he's able to gather people en masse, while defying the suggestions of the Supreme Ayatollah. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Also Art University and Allameh dorms were attacked. Students activists told me they know that two students also were killed in Isfahan Sanaati [technical] university. Some died as they were being beaten. I talked to 2 students who were present during the attack [on the university dormitory], it was heart breaking. EDIT: UPDATE #1 List of those detained: http://bamdadkhabar.com/2009/06/post_1913/ EDIT: UPDATE #2 Article @ Tehran Bureau on "Why Ahmadinejad Did Not Win" http://tehranbureau.com/2009/06/17/why-ahmadinejad-did-not-win/ | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
Famed film director, Mohsen Makhmalbaf, on behalf of Mousavi's campaign, was on BBC just now, He accused Ahamdinejad of giving up Iran's rights in Caspian Sea and other areas in the last 4 years and now is enjoying Russia's firm backing. Then he called it a Russian Coup! He said he has information that high ranking Russian advisers are teaching Ahmadinejad's thugs as to how to oppress the opposition effectively. This is Mohsen Makhmablf, not just any director. Already Iranians are gathering in front of Russian consulate in Toronto. From Andrew Sullivan's blog. This shit just got a whole lot more complicated. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
A reader writes: So Medvedev yuks it up with Ahmadi in Moscow; and Obama plays it cool in Washington. Advantage: Obama and Mousavi. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
the pirate bay has set up an anonymous forum for all iranians. spread the word! http://bit.ly/F811T #iranelection I'm so proud of being a piratebay supporter ^^ | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
MPs asking minister of interior affair to change H of Police(he is supported by Ahmadi) http://tinyurl.com/unicycles #iranelection Hamas in Iran? and the rumor about Hezbolah & Hamas helping Basij, until today I never believed it but I saw them today with my own eyes ![[image loading]](http://tehranbureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/01.jpg) ??? http://tehranbureau.com/2009/06/17/iran-updates/ Updates here today http://bit.ly/WNVhn | ||
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rushz0rz
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Hezbollah & Hamas of Lebanon Helping Iranian Security forces in Tehran is what I meant, sorry for the confusion MPs asking minister of interior affair to change H of Police(he is supported by Ahmadi) http://tinyurl.com/unicycles #iranelection | ||
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Jayve
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Jibba wrote: Yes. There's empirical learning and rational learning, and ideally you'll have both, but just because you're from a country doesn't mean you have either with regards to things like politics and so on. People who study a subject generally know more about it than people who don't. It's that simple. So you can learn more from reading about torture than a torture victim? I'm aware that just being from Iran doesn't make you an expert, Xeris is a perfect example of this as are most Americans. What bothers me is being from the region and watching these "experts" on the news debating about stuff they first of all are wrong about and secondly, can't even pronounce correctly. Xeris wrote: Frankly what you or your family has or hasn't done doesn't concern me because I wasn't arguing with you. It should, since that's the very reason that my word is clearly worth more than yours.  | ||
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VIB
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{ToT}Strafe
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 18 2009 04:56 Jayve wrote: So you can learn more from reading about torture than a torture victim? I'm aware that just being from Iran doesn't make you an expert, Xeris is a perfect example of this as are most Americans. You learn different things. You don't need to undergo torture in order to understand its effects on policy, but you don't begin to understand that without studying it. You obviously don't know how it feels without undergoing it, but if you want to argue on the basis of "feeling right" then you might as well join the Colbert Report. More and more it's becoming clear that whether the votes were rigged or not is irrelevant. Mousavi isn't the great reformer that the idiotic Western pundits have painted him as and he's probably just as corrupt as anyone in the Middle East. Right now we're looking at the outcomes of resource mobilization and political opportunity. The election, aided heavily by the internet, provided a vehicle for mobilization and the political opportunity comes when the rest of the world is focused on Iran (again, notice the signs in English) and when the country is least stable, ie. during an election. The most telling part of the TFT poll is that the majority of Iranians, regardless of who they favored in the presidential election, wanted democratic reforms and most importantly 70% thought the Supreme Leader should be voted upon. This is like textbook social movement theory. The next step is what comes next, and increased repression by the government is probably the best choice for self preservation. :/ | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
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{CC}StealthBlue
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eyewitness:in the past rally, a friend was beaten up by the force group and was left with a broken head and injured eyes #iranelection Khatami's party has asked permission for a demonstration on Saturday June 20th, 6pm from revolution to freedom square #iranelection eyewitness, latest slogan: "Take the websites and our cell phones, we don't give our country to you!" #iranelection Open Letter to all our Lebanese friends (English & Arabic) http://tinyurl.com/mylt2v | ||
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
On June 18 2009 04:38 rushz0rz wrote: The Iranians held a protest here, in Vancouver. It's starting to get real big, this is crazy. where | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On June 17 2009 16:51 Xeris wrote: Makes a good argument, but you could spin that poll any number of ways. Yeah, it's easy to speculate about where the other 42.5% of the votes would end up, but the important thing is how high that number is. Basically just makes the poll results much less meaningful. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On June 18 2009 05:25 {ToT}Strafe wrote: Hihi, drama, I love it. It's strange sometimes how easy it is to be prosperous yet everyone struggles to achieve it. hihi, try to start over with nothing in a place like iran and tell me how easy it s to be prosperous | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Basij requested Faezeh & Mehdi Hashemi be arrested for helping the riots http://www.entekhabnews.us/... #iranelection New photos from Tehran, Day 5 of protests: http://tehranlive.org/ #iranelection many eyewitness: the order&organization among ppl is unbelievable. #iranelection StateTV now getting phone calls FR "concerned citizens" demanding quick&tough action against "thugs&traitors"(read protesters) #iranelection I hope Reza is OK where ever he is. nobody knows where Intel took him to. they should already called his familiy. Look at this unity, I'm so proud of my ppl : silent rally on Wed http://www.youtube.com/watc... #iranelection | ||
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