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StarCraft = Sexist? Some feminists just go too far - Page 11

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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 17 2009 05:33 GMT
#201
Hmm then I guess a medic isn't a human after all.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 17 2009 05:50 GMT
#202
LOL this thread is hilarious. omg haha. I can't believe they are serious.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
fnaticNoname
Profile Joined January 2008
India858 Posts
May 17 2009 05:56 GMT
#203
Haha, thank you for posting this, even if its old I really enjoyed the comments and the crappy essay.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
May 17 2009 05:58 GMT
#204
On May 17 2009 05:14 Phrogs! wrote:
Starcraft so sexist
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hahaha... wow XD
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 17 2009 06:00 GMT
#205
On May 17 2009 14:58 deathgod6 wrote:
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On May 17 2009 05:14 Phrogs! wrote:
Starcraft so sexist
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hahaha... wow XD

omg thats good haha
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 17 2009 06:39 GMT
#206
What an idiotic idea
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
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Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
May 17 2009 06:49 GMT
#207
Wow, this just made my day lol!
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
May 17 2009 06:55 GMT
#208
I laughed all the way through the article, starting with the idea that zergs are actually female and ending with the fact that it was signed by a women.
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 17 2009 07:18 GMT
#209
rofl she's writing:
"Valkyrie- (speaks )In an overly sexualized Russian accent."
And all is illuminated.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
May 17 2009 07:20 GMT
#210
I always knew zerg was for pussys
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
May 17 2009 07:46 GMT
#211
On May 17 2009 14:32 Savio wrote:
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On May 17 2009 04:58 Patriot.dlk wrote:
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Owned the thread.


hehe
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 17 2009 07:47 GMT
#212
On May 17 2009 16:46 Patriot.dlk wrote:
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On May 17 2009 14:32 Savio wrote:
On May 17 2009 04:58 Patriot.dlk wrote:
I must bring balance into the force
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Owned the thread.


hehe

lol
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
May 17 2009 08:05 GMT
#213
On May 17 2009 16:20 InToTheWannaB wrote:
I always knew zerg was for pussys

your doing it wrong, think apples
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 17 2009 08:20 GMT
#214
Great thread here lol...I'd love to see the author try to defend her work here at TL o.o

I wonder how someone like her got on to StarCraft in the first place...doesn't seem like the game would be essay-worthy within her demographic.
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dNo_O
Profile Joined November 2008
United States233 Posts
May 17 2009 08:33 GMT
#215
she says a lot of equally sexist bullshit herself... "It is the economy that is set up by the half of the species that cannot bear children, the half than needs to invest worth in order to gain." so... hunter/gatherer is an investment based economy?

"Also, their power lies not in efficiency of building (more marines per minute) but in keeping your troops alive long enough to get them nurtured and grown up to a state of power. (Good job for those of you who are putting together the gender argument already)." <-- look at that sexist act of reinforcing the extrapolation of ideas without proper evidence!

The Protoss and Terrans, follow the male sexuality of building up, and up, and up, until finally it is the long awaited moment, while the Zerg build up, and then drop some, then build more… and more… and more… and more, and once dropped it may re-build up again, much sooner than it's male counterpart. <--- she has obviously never seen a 30 gate toss

she claims that the protoss and terran structures are phallic? what about the spire? what building does either terran or protoss have that is more phallic than the zerg spire?

what a noob.

I dunno about you guys, but I tried nurturing my drones into ultralisk on iccup and I won 0 times... damn... what was I thinking? Oh yeah, I thought I was playing the vagina race and that I had to nurture my units and get them to grow up... because zerg is the least aggressive race, and always wins by turtle.
It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
May 17 2009 09:53 GMT
#216
On May 17 2009 05:16 mahnini wrote:
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On May 17 2009 05:14 The Raurosaur wrote:
Did any of you actually read the article, or even its opening paragraphs? While the article quickly descends into the post-structuralist cultural studies style that I dislike immensely, the author points out that:

1) this isn't a problem with Starcraft - it's a problem with society and the structure of our social hierarchies
2) Starcraft is merely symptomatic of these problems, and is useful as an exemplar.

And she has a point. Starcraft fails the Bechdel test; it has few female characters (even the non-human characters are archetypally male). This doesn't mean that those who made Starcraft were sexist - it just goes to show that Starcraft is not above the (potentially negative) stereotypes and motifs that run through society.

think about the target market for sc when it was released

exactly man, go watch all episodes of Sex and the City and you'll know what sexist is...
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FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
May 17 2009 10:02 GMT
#217
On May 17 2009 07:26 travis wrote:


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Etc. Needs an explanation. Only valid explanation is biological factors, which are actually well studied through the science of evolutionary psychology and evolutionary science in general. Ever wondered why male gorillas are huge compared to female gorillas? Evolution through sexual selection. Same ideas operate in humans.


you seem to be forgetting that civilization also evolves. societies aren't always structured optimally. I find it amusing that you talk about how almost all societies are completely dominated by men, and then follow it up with "Many societies have taboos for menstruating women (which is sexist according to modern feminists), yet they independently created them. Almost all societies discourage female promiscuity, same idea.", as if women have a say about that in a male dominated society.


You'd be surprised by what women do and don't have a say in in traditional societies. It certainly isn't a one way dialogue. Society is male dominated in that political power structures are created and run by men in all societies. That public power is what I'm referring to and it does not simply dictate the nuts and bolts of every day human rituals, behaviors and taboos, in fact the power structure is borne of society, the society is not borne of the power structure. Something like a menstruation taboo isn't created by a committee of the ruling men. And the idea of women as mute recipients of male action is ahistorical.
I will eat you alive
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 17 2009 10:17 GMT
#218
It´s 7 years old bullshit that's written by a transvestite feminist, enough said.
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Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
May 17 2009 10:22 GMT
#219
women are sooo romanians
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
May 17 2009 10:22 GMT
#220
Yeah I agree that the author of the article went a bit overboard, but I can still understand where she is coming from. This touches alot on sociology and Foucaults work about discourse.

Basically we have certain values and ways of thinking in our society which are largely subconscious, for example about women. It's a fact that we live in a society where the male sets the rules to a big extent.

So to everyone replying "lol fucking feminists" or "rofl she is a moron" do yourself a favour and think one step forward and actually try and get what she is getting at, although her arguments go a bit overboard. This is not so far fetched as some people would like to think
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