StarCraft = Sexist? Some feminists just go too far - Page 12

On May 17 2009 19:17 Integra wrote:
It´s 7 years old bullshit that's written by a transvestite feminist, enough said.

On May 17 2009 20:07 qoou wrote:
The 'evidence' part at the end is what saddens me the most. Example:

Siege Tank:
"Yes Sir."
"Orders Sir."
(While these last two are not sexual, they give the obvious implication that the game player must be male.)

These people will see what they want to see.

On May 17 2009 20:29 Marti DiBergi wrote:
hahah I love these kind of people, who just see sexist things everywhere.
Im mean SERIOUSLY WTF, this is a videogame

On May 17 2009 20:47 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
There's a difference between feminists who strive for equality in politics, bussinessworld, ...
and feminists who just plain hate men :s
They always toss the words equality and sexist around where it fits them the best. You can't win an discussion with these women (with any women really "OH NOES SEXIST REMARK" they rely too much on their emotions in the heat of the discussion)

Anyway, most women rule :D . They're soft, smell nice, pretty looking, compassionate, kind, sweet, I could go on and on
But to those few bitter women/feminists/whatever who are out to spite and are looking to pick a fight I say gtfo

On May 17 2009 19:24 Foucault wrote:


seriously, what? Transvestite feminist... You might wanna try and respect people. Alot of prejudice in that sentence you just wrote

On May 17 2009 21:17 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Hot_Bid is that you?

On May 17 2009 11:38 stroggos wrote:
indeed, i thought he was white until this thread. His face just looks black because its dark in the suit and his nose/mouth looks like that because pictures of sc characters aren't drawn very accurately.

Anyway it's pretty sad that people have to call things racist because there isn't an even numbers of the races in the game ect, or that because a black guy is an scv-worker that it's racist.

On May 17 2009 20:58 Foucault wrote:


The argument about the "good" feminists and "bad" (who hate men) ones is common. It can be interpreted as a masculine way of stripping the "stronger" women of their power by calling the ones "who hate men" the bad ones, because they are a threat to the male hierarchy.

How many men hates women? Certainly theres quite alot of men who despise women for many of the ways of how women behave. Also, the hatred some women feel towards men is quite justifiable when taking into account how many women are abused physically, sexually and mentally each and every day, still in this day and era. Throughout history women have been dominated by men, and frankly have been viewed as second class citizens.

I'm not that into feminist theory but I think it's VERY important for both men and women to realize that there are still issues regarding equality, and actually see how we as a society play a huge role in socializing the next generations with these views that are already ingrained in us.

Everybody should take a 101 Sociology course for a better understanding of society as a whole, because I often see how these insights are lacking in people. It's something that concerns us all very much.

If these arguments aren't enough 'evidence' to get you to at least contemplate the possibility that the Zerg are intended to be taken as female, while the Protoss and Terran are to be taken as male, I feel that you should reread the evidence more carefully, and perhaps simply examine if you don't want to believe it. Now, to the crux of the matter. The reason why it is harmful for games like this to draw on such ideologies is that it reinforces negative gender stereotypes, in regard to both men and women. I am mainly concerned with the female aspect, and so that is what I will put my emphasis upon.To solidify into gamers minds the idea of Zerg = female, alongside Zerg = unknowable, evil beast yields a culture who regard female = unknowable, evil beast. This is obviously a problem. Women are human, men are human. In that sense there is no distinction. I would say "women are as worthy (or as human (or as anything)) as men", but this statement itself reinforces the ideology that men are standard, while women simply strive to be like them. this need not be the way that we look at it. Women and Men are equals, and anything, addictively entertaining or not, that reinforces an ideology that says otherwise needs be taken to task. I am not assaulting Blizzard, for I truly believe that they are not even aware of what they did. The problem lies in the fact that this game, in fact nearly all computer games, is a direct product of the American male fantasy. The problem lies not in the game (although it perpetuates the problem), but in the fantasy life that we have set up for the American male youth. Freud refers to women as the "immense heart of darkness", the unknowable, the different, the other. This permeates our society.