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Condoleezza Rice on "torture" / waterboarding. - Page 11

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Xenixx
Profile Joined June 2008
United States530 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 02:54:28
May 15 2009 02:49 GMT
#201
On May 15 2009 10:13 Railxp wrote:
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On May 15 2009 06:37 L wrote:



Surprised no one put this in the thread yet.



great post. Never heard of him before but now i love the guy. But i would never want to see him in office because I doubt he will be able to change the country in the way he wants to. And it would suck to see this man crushed by politics.


if theres ever an auto-biography to read its venturas', hes always been a dude thats a good role model and an honorable man. as far as i know ive never known him to do anything to skewer this image.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
May 15 2009 03:07 GMT
#202
On May 15 2009 11:37 HeadBangaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 11:02 Archerofaiur wrote:
You know what the crazy part is? The grand old party is supposed to be the moral party. When did strong religous values make torture permisable?

Because the Republican party has strayed from proper conservatism, becoming obsessed instead with foreign intervention and empire building.


No you see you have to give them radical respect. They really believe what they are doing is in the best interest of the country. Its just sad how far that path has taken them from their core principles.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 15 2009 03:46 GMT
#203
On May 15 2009 06:37 L wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9yfMdNC6cQ


Surprised no one put this in the thread yet.

Ventura is fun to listen to, but he's just a populist, which is always dangerous.
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-16 04:55:28
May 15 2009 04:33 GMT
#204
On May 15 2009 05:03 Physician wrote:
Aegraen, a question since you seem to know your stuff, has "waterboarding" ever being torture, for the military that is? Has the US military ever called it torture in the past? Has it ever been illegal?


awaiting answer..
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 15 2009 04:56 GMT
#205
this aegraen guy is hilarious

what zizou bolded, LMAO


1776 American signing off.

hahahahahha
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 15 2009 05:12 GMT
#206
Ventura is fun to listen to, but he's just a populist, which is always dangerous.
Being a populist discredits his opinion on waterboarding after having been subjected to it?

K.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
May 15 2009 05:23 GMT
#207
Arguing with a wall is like running into a wall, the wall always wins
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
May 15 2009 05:49 GMT
#208
On May 15 2009 14:23 Space[Fright] wrote:
Arguing with a wall is like running into a wall, the wall always wins


??
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 15 2009 06:24 GMT
#209
On May 15 2009 14:23 Space[Fright] wrote:
Arguing with a wall is like running into a wall, the wall always wins

that was deep
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zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
May 15 2009 06:26 GMT
#210
LOL
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10907 Posts
May 15 2009 06:30 GMT
#211
Enter youtube video about guy running against a wall here!
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
May 15 2009 07:18 GMT
#212
nice thread.. no one's going to convince 'the other side' to cross on the topic of torture since it simply is way too polarizing. You'd have to discuss with lots of detail with specific cases with accurate information and so forth, but for one that's far from achievable for lack of known facts and for two, people will keep on polarizing the other side with hollow arguments to ride their own moral ground.

p.s. Torture is always wrong.
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Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
May 15 2009 08:29 GMT
#213
On May 15 2009 14:23 Space[Fright] wrote:
Arguing with a wall is like running into a wall, the wall always wins


Say what you want and altho I dont particulary agree with Aegraen he is constantly backing up his opinnions with arguments and reason, which is often more then can be said of the people opposing him.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10907 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 09:27:52
May 15 2009 08:58 GMT
#214

He arguments in a way which i would expect from Taliban extremists or other total nutjobs. Actually i would go even further and say that the Taliban extremists probably have better arguments for their (flawed) cause then Aegran for his (also flawed cause).


I'm pretty scared of people like him.
Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
May 15 2009 09:13 GMT
#215
the americans trying to justify and defend their countrys actions in this matter should shut the hell up.
if u cant see how this is a crime, and wrong. then theres something even more wrong with you.
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
May 15 2009 09:33 GMT
#216
I wonder when the english wiki will not call waterboarding torture anymore. Sigh. :\
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10907 Posts
May 15 2009 09:38 GMT
#217
Aegran has probably tryed to edit the article and now has an argument with the Wiki-Admins :p.
Jusciax
Profile Joined August 2007
Lithuania588 Posts
May 15 2009 09:54 GMT
#218
On May 15 2009 17:29 Promises wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 14:23 Space[Fright] wrote:
Arguing with a wall is like running into a wall, the wall always wins


Say what you want and altho I dont particulary agree with Aegraen he is constantly backing up his opinnions with arguments and reason, which is often more then can be said of the people opposing him.

You couldn't be less specific, good job man.
Bob123
Profile Joined October 2006
Korea (North)259 Posts
May 15 2009 10:18 GMT
#219
If waterboarding isn't torture, why don't you apply it your "normal" prisoners? If it is as effective at you say it would certainly help solving a few kidnappings etc. Maybe you should have water boarded Bill Clinton about this Lewinsky affair. It's a fair, effective and harmless interrogation technique after all, isn't it?

What scares me (or upsets me) most of all about this thread is the different rules for "us" and "them". If the Taliban captured a US officer (who could very well be renamed "an infidel" in order to dodge the geneva convention, US style) and waterboarded him in order to learn information about incomming US attacks it would spark an outrage in America. Damn those taliban-nazis for torturing our fine men.

Waterboarding some those muslims in guantanamo on the other hand is just fine.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
May 15 2009 11:37 GMT
#220
lol that guy is hilarious... I didn't think I'd ever witness such a stereotypically brainwashed and retarded US Military member. Dude if you'd really wanna serve your country you'd best stfu and not fuel the anti-american sentiments by writing pages and pages of indoctrinated crap.
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