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I've got the habit of quoting the things I respond to, so this is a monster post. I'll spoiler it just so it's neater
+ Show Spoiler +On April 21 2009 09:52 Hawk wrote:
If it has nothing to do with economics, why don't you go to the store and spend a few bucks for a saw? Or go to a neighbor to use one for the day? Nothing to do with academics. I can't use a saw.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 21 2009 10:06 gchan wrote:
acid haha
+ Show Spoiler +On April 21 2009 10:06 Archaic wrote:
Assuming said job is to go well, would you mind making a new thread about *why* you have done this? I'm sorry but I can't. Hopefully you'll get some more insight from other things I've quoted.
+ Show Spoiler +And my idea is extremely simple:
Put the board on a table so both sides are exposed.
Two guys on each side sanding edge, each sanding one half. Then the other three guys can just chill until someone gets bored, tired, or sore.
I actually thought of this today. We tried it, but it sounded a lot better than it worked.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 21 2009 10:11 Fontong wrote:
Lol is this some kind of frat thing? On April 21 2009 11:33 bdams19 wrote:
welcome to the world of pledging
you are assigned impossible tasks that you will fail at so they can make you do shit which is hilarious for others. If you actually do it, they will assume you cheated.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 21 2009 10:26 patrick321 wrote:
If it just has to look like it wasn't cut then cut it and sand the sides. Can't do this. If we could we would
On April 21 2009 10:34 Zortch wrote:
This sounds illegal...
your face is illegal
+ Show Spoiler +I assume you're going across the grain right? If you're going with it just split it with some chisels.
You could get a strong steel cable and a pulley. Start a groove for the cable in the wood where you want the cut and then, making the cable as tight as you can bring it around the pulley. Then turn it as fast as you can with a crank keeping the cable super tight. Its basically sandpaper but thinner... thats a really good idea. It goes along the same grain as charliemurphy's. Oh yeah. we don't have pulleys but we might manage somehow. thanks for the post
+ Show Spoiler +On April 21 2009 12:22 Railxp wrote:
We used this in class for any sort of wood work, files down through wood fast enough (as well as flesh x_x) , but it's mainly for shaping the edges and then wrapping progressively less coarse sand paper over it to further refine your wood craft.
sorry if this sounds confusing. for example we made a wooden top (spinning toy) in class and i filed down a square wood block into a tube shaped hand grip for the launcher part. Yeah, I thought about this too but I don't have access to one and I'm not buying one.
And at that big expensive thing that takes off layers of wood: it might work, but we don't have access to one and we aren't gonna buy one. Thanks for the idea, though
2 other ideas I've come across:
Put sandpaper on the wheel of a bike and then spin the wheel.
Use the power washer that's nearby. We'd have to put some sort of grain in it so I'm not sure if it will work but I like power washers so I don't really think it matters...
Thanks for the ideas so far. We might actually get this done. I'll let you know how it goes
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Canada8033 Posts
On April 21 2009 12:22 Railxp wrote:We used this in class for any sort of wood work, files down through wood fast enough (as well as flesh x_x) , but it's mainly for shaping the edges and then wrapping progressively less coarse sand paper over it to further refine your wood craft. sorry if this sounds confusing. for example we made a wooden top (spinning toy) in class and i filed down a square wood block into a tube shaped hand grip for the launcher part.
Ugh. Thanks for the mental image.
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get a round metal file
The bottom one. The top one is a flat file and would not produce the desired look.
it will create the same effect as doing it with sand paper and will take like 5 minutes if you put any effort into it at all.
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Try taking the tire off the metal wheel and use that as the pulley for the steel cable...
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using wire or cable is going to look like you used a saw.
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you could try creating a black hole on both ends of the board
the gravities will rip the board in half
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On April 21 2009 15:22 travis wrote:
you could try creating a black hole on both ends of the board
the gravities will rip the board in half
and how do you get the board back form the black holes?
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On April 21 2009 15:28 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2009 15:22 travis wrote:
you could try creating a black hole on both ends of the board
the gravities will rip the board in half and how do you get the board back form the black holes?
You just dive in after it silly.
I still second acid -.-
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Sounds like you're just looking for ways to apply more friction faster. Bike wheels and chains are good for this (sandpaper +wheel, although that's not exactly easy to hide), or a chain type of friction system (pully/chain into friction).
the other thing that you might want to look at is applying chemical energy. In addition to acid (imo, a good idea, and it fits all of your criteria), you have fire and explosives (a machine gun firing in a line would do the trick, and be quite a bit of overkill >.> ) for fire, think lighter fluid or gasoline.
Depending on how much leverage you can get, you might also want to try just having everyone stand on it while holding rocks. Assume that you guys each weigh 150 lbs, carrying 50 pound rocks each, and you end up with a ton of force. Along the same lines, i bet if you can get a car or something similar, it just becomes a huge force problem.
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On April 21 2009 09:41 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
This is of the utmost importance to me and 6 other guys. KTT
u want us to share, but u don't share urself : ( do tell us more
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Maybe he's got permission to visit one of his friends in jail. Now he's thinking of things to give his friend in jail to get out. I imagine they might have 7 men cells. That's why he has 7 people, one day and tight tool restrictions.
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A. If the board is small enough, bring a replacement board that is already fabricated to look like the target board sanded in two. Also bring tools to remove the original board and attach the new pieces.
B. Get one of those tools that are like an ice pick (to make a block of ice into ice "cubes"). Use it to press against the wood. It should be more stealthy than a saw or a file. Alternatively/also bring chain cutters or branch cutters as this will make you able to exert more force. The sharp end of a compass or dead ball point pens could also work. These things won't actually cut the board, but they might help. It might just condense the wood, making it harder to sand down.
C. Even better is to get a chisel. Same stealth abilities, but you can actually cut off peels of wood with it.
D. Sharp rocks. Readily available anywhere you go.
E. Wood workers use a mix of water and alcohol to soften up wood before carving it. It may be something to look into unless it's treated wood and you intend to do something like carving.
F. Use a hot piece of metal to burn holes in the wood. You could try a soldering iron if you have access to electric power.
Each of these methods require you to sand the board down afterwards if it needs to look sanded. If needed, bring sawdust to spread on the ground after removing wood chips or other evidence.
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axes are probably your best bet. been used for centuries. get one guy to use the axe and put the wood on a ridge and get the 6 other guys to stand on the two ends to encourage it to snap.
depending on how you're going to do this, you might want to soak the wood to make it more pliable, if you can. although you dismissed it, I think acid would help in softening the wood.if you're going to sand it, you need the wood to be dry.
if you were splitting a tree, you'd make some small crack in it (chisel?) and then hammer wedges into the crack to split it.
also, have you considered thermite? you'd need some aluminium and some magnesium.
you could also consider splitting things with expanding water as it turns to ice. you'd fill the crack with water and freeze it, as it expands it'll force the crack open (in the same way rocks are forced apart) you'd need something very cold and some water; can you get your hands on some liquid nitrogen or black ice?
just a thought - lightning smashes trees, I think, by evaporating the sap in them rapidy, which explodes and forces the tree apart. do you have access to electricity where you're going?
do you have a nail gun? put a lot of those in the wood in a line, then break it .
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Take from a bicycle the pedals, chain, two gears. Get two stands, some rigid object to separate them, and a small wheel for the pulley. Sandpaper on wheel.
Other methods of friction: drag it on asphalt with a car and weight on top. Or with a bicycle. Or with 4 of your guys dog sled style. That last suggestion probably won't work very well, but if you use your lightest person as weight, it would be fun to watch.
To speed it up: you have to cut as close to 1 inch as you can. If you can't saw, try a whittling knife.
Weaken the wood to speed it up. Liquid nitrogen sounds ok, or you can sear the surface with fire carefully. Wood will burn from the surface not the core, so if you do burn it little by little, the charred surface should be easy to cut or sand. Wood doesn't conduct well, so you could put the board in inch ice to protect it once you get really close.
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Turtle sounds like a drama queen.
Perhaps he will show us some pictures of him in drag when this is all done? Yes, yes?
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