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bladebrood
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
189 Posts
March 24 2009 18:12 GMT
#61
Don't forget that every human follows a polyphasic sleep pattern (babies) until their parents/society forces them into a schedule.
So it is pretty natural!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-24 18:26:32
March 24 2009 18:18 GMT
#62
On March 25 2009 03:12 bladebrood wrote:
Don't forget that every human follows a polyphasic sleep pattern (babies) until their parents/society forces them into a schedule.
So it is pretty natural!


wait a second. de ja vu.
was your post a joke?
Jaskwith
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States197 Posts
March 24 2009 18:30 GMT
#63
Seems like if I had enough money where I didin't have to work a fulltime job, I would adapt a polyphasic sleep system to open my world to having as much fun as possible. But I think that since most people have obligations to where they cant simply nap every 4 hours, this isn't really applicable. And even if it is, I don't think there would be enough people with this sleep cycle. So then the problem kind of becomes in the twilight hours, finding yourself bored.... And so it seems not really worth it to constantly be sleeping every 4 hours so that you will have more time awake, but there is nothing to do.

I also took psych 101, and if I remember...wasn't it like... your body sleeps with the intent of gaining proportional amounts of REM and DEEP sleep? So...say you have been taking several naps as such is explained in the polyphasic cylce...then eventually(long term) won't your body seek out deep sleep, and so your REM sleep would be skipped altogether and this sleep cycle would be counter productive because you would be taking 20 min naps of deep sleep, thus waking up exhausted? i dont know... seems like a optimistic idea to live your life more, but not totally applicable with the majority of most normal cultural perceptions of when you are suppose to sleep....
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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
March 24 2009 18:45 GMT
#64
Well i dont agree about it being not natural. there are animals that sleep in this kind of pattern.
ans also babies sleep polyphasic (though with much longer sleeping times)
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 24 2009 19:01 GMT
#65
On March 25 2009 03:45 Marradron wrote:
Well i dont agree about it being not natural. there are animals that sleep in this kind of pattern.
ans also babies sleep polyphasic (though with much longer sleeping times)


what kind of argument is that? there are animals that do lots of stuff, it doesn't make it natural for humans to do it.

and comparing how babies sleep to this is just... silly.
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
March 25 2009 02:26 GMT
#66
A fellow polyphasic sleep experimenter's blog:
http://www.minussleep.com/


Who can guess the result?
~\(。◕‿‿◕。)/~,,,,,,,,>
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
March 25 2009 02:29 GMT
#67
I believe someone at tl.net already tried this for a year and he said this was just not worth it.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
March 25 2009 03:37 GMT
#68
Also, isnt there a study that if you leave people in a place without clocks or any notion of the outside time, theyr bioclock goes to a 25 hour long day ?
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
tribal_warfare
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia3 Posts
March 25 2009 03:41 GMT
#69
I haven't done uberman but I did try everyman earlier this year: sleeping 4am-7am, 12noon-12:20, 5:20-5:40, and 10:40-11. It took me about 3 days before I got to the point of sleeping and waking at the right times and I maintained it for around two weeks after that.

The adjustment period wasn't too bad. I'd feel a bit slowed down between 7am and noon but after the midday nap I'd be fine for the rest of the 'day'/night. Perhaps the wakefulness between 11pm and 4am was a result of my spending that time programming (bright screen + time vanishes).

Adjusting back to monophasic was terrible however. It took me nearly a week and a half before I could make it through the day without napping/feeling awful.


While the extra time in the day was pleasant I think the main benefit I got from it was having my day broken up so strongly into sections. Every so often I'll have a day where I'm not feeling particularly inspired and will just goof off reading the internet to see if anything has changed. With the nap based break, I'd tend to wake up and get back to work. So rather then lose an entire day I'd only lose a 5 hour window and still get 15 hours of useful stuff done. In the army you can follow a routine because someone is yelling at you, in polyphasic you can follow a routine because sleepiness is yelling at you.


In the end I stopped for a number of reasons, all of which were external. The pain of trying to nap at uni, a monophasic girlfriend and a "why risk mental illness?" mother. Additionally, while 22 hours a day sounds great on paper, I didn't perceive 20 hours a day to be all that much better then the normal 16.5. For the last couple of mornings I've been woken up to my alarm clock asking "Would you like an extra 30 minutes of awakeness today, or will you just keep sleeping?" and every time I've slept in.

One of your questions seemed to hint at going out clubbing late at night to pass the time and while I never tried it I'm not sure if it'd be worth the effort. For me that would mean stuffing around with buses on a hour round trip in and out of the city. Having to fit that all in within 3.5 hours between waking and sleeping. *shrug* It might have been more feasible in the 5-hour wake period version of everyman that I was doing, but again, I never tried. Under uberman you're forced to only do things for 2-3 hours or go to places which you can nap at. More time in the day but a smaller range of activities you can do during it.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9105 Posts
March 26 2009 05:32 GMT
#70
This sounds interesting especially because we just had a brief lesson on sleep during our states of consciousness unit in psychology.

It does sound like a cool idea but for many in normal school/job days it's pretty tough to try out. And I'm not sure if I could do it anyway. I generally take a long time to fall asleep unless I just don't go to bed until I can barely keep my eyes open.
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