EPTGo ahead and make the switch if you want to suck a few years off your life. Research has been done, and nothing supports this nonsense.
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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
Go ahead and make the switch if you want to suck a few years off your life. Research has been done, and nothing supports this nonsense. | ||
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nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
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DBunny
Canada192 Posts
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
On March 23 2009 16:19 Equaoh wrote: I think what you're describing is REM debt, mostly. After a while of not getting enough REM sleep your brain 'prioritizes' your sleep to try to offset the deficiency - leading to faster initiation of REM and a longer duration. The problem is you still have a lot of REM debt building up and you're not working nearly enough of it off (note that REM periods lengthen the longer you sleep in one sitting). Also, and more importantly, the napping leads to a real lack of stage 4 or slow-wave sleep which can be problematic - your body takes advantage of this 'metabolic downtime' for anabolic processes like secreting GH. An extended period of time without slow wave sleep can lead to fybromyalgia among other health problems. I'm not a sleep specialist but I'd stick to a regular sleep schedule. Then I guess polyphasic sleep is not a good option for those trying to gain weight. I'm try to get out of this gangly, frail 122 pound nerd body (12 of those pounds recently gained.) Edit: I'm currently a university student, and I'd consider using this pattern too, since I'm already so consistently awake when others aren't. I'd be able to stay focused, and my class schedule (though 17 units) allows for this. I try to get 6-8 hours of sleep daily because I need any anabolic process that kicks in during long periods of sleep to happen. -.-v | ||
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bladebrood
189 Posts
It was great and I would definitely do it again if it wasn't for the one major flaw; I had to eat SO MUCH MORE than usual, every 4hours i would basically need a whole meal. (too expensive). If I had loads of money I would do it again and never stop. I always felt a load more awake (except the first few days when i felt so bad I couldnt think at all). Music sounded AMAZING, every one of my senses was just so insanely good.. I could see details loads more and i felt faster. I played songs so well in guitar hero that i was failing so hard before (and after...) If you can afford it and don't need to be awake for more than ~3hours and 45minutes then give it a go for sure. It's amazing, and each day feels like a week. Oh yea, and the dreams.. wow... the dreams. Best dreams of my life every time i went to sleep. I miss polyphasic T_T, but I can't afford all the food and i need to work for long periods of time now anyways. | ||
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Equaoh
Canada427 Posts
They did need to eat a lot more, though. | ||
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Rainbow
United States249 Posts
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
On March 23 2009 16:16 Polyphasic wrote: sleep watches monitor your sleep cycle while you are sleeping by recording things like pulse, blood pressure, breathing, etc etc. they wake you up only when you are at the end of REM, which is the best time to wake up. they go for like, 70$, but for students like me who always oversleep or undersleep so i'm always tired, they save my life. Didn't know that existed. Sounds fucking awesome. Edit: Some models/brands to recommend? | ||
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ySoLaMe
United States51 Posts
Polyphasic sleep seems very impractical. You can't expect an employer to allow two or three half hour naps during your 9 to 5 schedule. Also, I think the world would use a lot more of its resources if the world ran on a polyphasic schedule - imagine all of the newly demanded work hours and gross amounts of food consumed. I'm for monophasic sleep. | ||
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
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SmoKing2012
United States385 Posts
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Teejing
Germany1360 Posts
1) The body shutting down is important for regeneration 2) The body reacts to the day/night cyclus, making it natural to be awake at sunshine and sleepy at night. Interrupting this could give your body´s natural balance some problems 3) I guess man did always sleep at night for millions of years making it look to me like the most effective way in the long run. Well, i got a question: Are there any animals who do take their sleep in several naps? | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
So unless you are a fucking marine in a war, I say screw this, gimme my long sleep and my sweet dreams. Nice topic tho | ||
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TheosEx
United States894 Posts
I think it's also extremely hard to dream with 20 minutes of sleep. Psychologists are starting to think that dreams help you re-organize everything in your brain. So if you don't dream, you start to become incoherent. I may be wrong about some specifics, but it's been about 2 years or so since I've taken any psychology classes. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17850 Posts
On March 23 2009 09:05 il0seonpurpose wrote: My brother tried this and I helped him by waking him up every 20 minutes but he couldn't wake up Not surprised here. Whenever I feel tired and just want to 'lay down for a minute or two' and ask my wife/set the alarm to wake me up in 30min, I end up sleeping for 12-16hrs straight  Besides that I need to change my sleep pattern a lot (just need to change my job to a normal one) since what it is now is exactly what CharlieMurphy wrote on p1 of this thread... Also, to stay on topic, some more reasons why people don't do polyphasic (apart from work/study and stuff): 1. Alcohol (everyone likes to parteeeeeey  )2. Depression (due to loneliness at night and having to go through the night longer, why do you think like everyone in Iceland is perpetually depressed?) 3. Frustration (if you have no-one to go out with/talk to, no pizza delivery etc. at crazy hours during normal weekdays) 4. Boredom (you now have extra 6hrs to fill with some kind of mostly abnormal activities, no fun here) On March 24 2009 00:50 bladebrood wrote: It was great and I would definitely do it again if it wasn't for the one major flaw; I had to eat SO MUCH MORE than usual, every 4hours i would basically need a whole meal. (too expensive). If I had loads of money I would do it again and never stop. That's because your body is substituting calories for sleep. That's how people working on fishing boats etc. go through 80hrs of hard work with maybe 2hrs of sleep. Eat as much as you can as often as you can - you can stay awake for crazy amounts of time. | ||
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expostfacto
United States365 Posts
I learned two things. One is that you have more crap interrupting you during the day than you think. (Hence my move to 2 naps. I just couldn't get 3 in consistently.) The other is that your body may have a natural sleeping time when sleeping is just more effective. Mine was about 9 PM to midnight -- I probably could have gone 3h + 2x20 on that. But, that was time that my wife did not want me sleeping. So it comes back to the schedule again. I went back to monophasic when I started interviewing for a new job. I didn't think the companies would go for waiting for my nap, and I didn't want my brain to be fried from missing them either.  I'd like to do it again when my work schedule allows it again. The extra time is great, even if you are sleeping a lot more than the minimum 2h some people have gotten to. (I don't have a month to spend wasted trying to acclimatize to that. "everyman" is much gentler.) | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On March 23 2009 12:08 JeeJee wrote: well for statements like these, it's usually common sense to put in some sort of self-qualification so that we may have a reason for trusting you. have you tried it? or have you extensively studied it? as of now your post holds little more value than me posting 'Trust me, it DOES work well.' I have fairly "extensive" experience with biphasic and some everyman through college. Throws everything out of whack as I said especially if you're in school. I strongly recommend against anything other than monophasic. Physiologically, sleep is a recharge time for your body... strongly anabolic. That's when a lot of hormones like growth hormone get released which are important for systemic repair. Decreasing sleep decreases the time spent (GH for example peaks in short wave sleep) and staying away tends to have elevated levels of cortisol (stress hormone). Decreased overall GH secretion and increased cortisol is related to senescence (aging). It "sounds" cool to get more time in the day, but it's just more stress on your body and makes it age "faster" biologically. | ||
cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
I have only heard of it working long-term for people who took amphetamines, anyways. Polyphasic sleep is not natural. It just takes advantage of the brain's adaptability. I think that 4-6 hours sleep/night, and a 1hour or so powernap during the day would be much better cycle. | ||
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