EPTis this a fuckign joke
Some people deserve worse than the death penalty.. - Page 5
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clazziquai
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HumbleZealot
Canada508 Posts
On November 17 2008 13:08 HeadBangaa wrote: They can "do the jobs Americans won't" then we can finally kick out all the mexicans. Seriously though, I don't see anything wrong with the death penalty. Society is a sum of its parts: its citizens. The highest transgression an individual can perform against the collective, is to murder its components. I see death penalty as reciprocation; it is a rejection of that person: "return to sender" if you will. Is there some metaphysical reason that society shouldn't implement reciprocation? Yes, because there is a cheaper, more humane and just as effective a method of punishment or "reciprocation": Life in prison. | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
As far as it being "inhumane": If it could somehow be determined that a person warrants capital punishment (the philosophical crux of the matter), a painless lethal injection would of course be more humane than a public stoning. Similar to how we differentiate humane and inhumane procedures for livestock culling. My question was about merit, so countering with implementation details is inappropriate. It would be better to simply say that you don't think a person could ever merit having their life ended, regardless of their actions. Then we could debate that. | ||
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stanley_
United States816 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
wth is wrong w/ those fukin ppl??! jeez man... holy crap wat kind fo a sick fukin mother is that??! omg... On November 17 2008 13:55 HumbleZealot wrote: Yes, because there is a cheaper, more humane and just as effective a method of punishment or "reciprocation": Life in prison. i personally think prison makes them suffer more than death penalty.... maybe they can be like u r under death penalty and then on the day be like HA WE GOT U u r going to life in prison... heh that would mess w/ their heads EDIT: On November 17 2008 16:48 stanley_ wrote: What if it wasn't their fault. What if they were neglected as a child and this is the reason why they lash out. What if society created their personality that urged them to do it? how is it not their fault? they did it?? remember the world decided taht WE are responcible for OUR own actions... hence the nazi trials... they claimed they were just following orders... but ultimately it was them who carried it out and it was their decision and within their power to do it lot of ppl have hard life since there's so many ppl in the world it's not surprising few will have fuked up lives but that doesn't justify that u cause other ppl misery as well... if anything u should suk it up and make sure that nothing ever happens to others that stuff ath happened to u... not cause others misery just because u suffered a little.... | ||
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EGMachine
United States1643 Posts
On November 17 2008 10:41 Frits wrote: Way to be uninformed, a death penalty costs way more money than life imprisonment. Also if you stopped raging for a second you would realize that you want someone to die simply because it costs money to let them live, you are disgusting. I disagree, people like this are a worthless waste of space, they will never amount to anything and are only hurting our society, if it was more efficiant to have them killed than I would be all for it, they arent worth the air that they breath. | ||
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hymn
Bulgaria832 Posts
This really brought tears to my eyes... I mean.. Not that I am intentionally cruel but I would torture those people so bad that they would hate the day their mothers gazed their fathers... I am simultaneously enraged and so sad that such things happen... | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On November 17 2008 03:08 HeadBangaa wrote: Worse than death? Easy. Put them in front of the American media for a few weeks, then put them in an American prison. They will be torn apart. Actually this is very true  There's a real pecking order in maximum security prisons partially based, especially initially, on the crime one is convicted of. Although I've never been to prison I'm pretty sure baby abusers/murderers are as bad or worse than pedophiles who are by far the most hated inmates. They generally have to be seperated from the general population during yard/exercise time but the guards could just sort of forget every single day for this special case(although I think they should just let the pedophiles get whats comming to them too). | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
The mother is insane...so caught up in love with her boyfriend who (together with the lodger) killed her baby that she basically blocked out anything they were doing to him. Baby P was on the most severe level of protection before taking him into care, and it was the recommendation of several staff involved with him that baby P be taken into care (ie removed from house). He had in fact been looked after by his mother's friend for awhile, but she either didn't care that he was being beaten when she gave him back; or didn't know. There apparently just was too much paperwork and risk of job to make a fuss about it and get him into care. Regardless...I am still appalled by the fact that baby P was brought into a clinical check-up, IN a hospital, not just in a home visit; and the doctor examining him; EVEN though the baby refused to move its neck because it hurt, failed to notice 7 cracked ribs and a broken back. That would have saved his life. The two men who killed baby P are sick and twisted. There are lots of people like them in society but most can control their sadistic urges. The boyfriend had always been sadistic. Panorama interviewed someone who had worked with him, and she said he loved to knock out small animals like frogs, break their bones, then revive them with smelling salts; reveling in what he perceived to be their horror as they woke up. Really, if it is the case that there is no way to have somebody executed without it costing more than life imprisonment; then they should get life imprisonment. But the biggest outrage is that they are getting 14 years, not even 25. | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
On November 18 2008 21:08 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Actually this is very true There's a real pecking order in maximum security prisons partially based, especially initially, on the crime one is convicted of. Although I've never been to prison I'm pretty sure baby abusers/murderers are as bad or worse than pedophiles who are by far the most hated inmates. They generally have to be seperated from the general population during yard/exercise time but the guards could just sort of forget every single day for this special case(although I think they should just let the pedophiles get whats comming to them too). wait. Don't get ahead of yourself Americans. It happens in England too...child abusers get fucked up wherever they go. | ||
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baal
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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Guss
Sweden712 Posts
On November 18 2008 22:52 baal wrote: why is a child more valuable than a grown person??? because a child has done nothing wrong in their entire life, they are pure. And they cannot defend themselves | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
On November 18 2008 22:52 baal wrote: why is a child more valuable than a grown person??? what's your point? | ||
NonY
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baal
10708 Posts
On November 18 2008 22:58 HeadBangaa wrote: Because the meat is so tender it just falls right off the bone. ROFL <3 | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
On November 18 2008 22:58 Guss wrote: because a child has done nothing wrong in their entire life, they are pure. And they cannot defend themselves And when somebody puts a gun at you, can you defend yourself? A child hasnt done anything, nor wrong nor good, so if being good or bad declares the value of your life, then a philantropist is worth MUCH more than any child in the world. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32280 Posts
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
On November 19 2008 00:09 baal wrote: And when somebody puts a gun at you, can you defend yourself? A child hasnt done anything, nor wrong nor good, so if being good or bad declares the value of your life, then a philantropist is worth MUCH more than any child in the world. Well that's very vague, what do you mean by 'worth'?! | ||
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