EPTOn November 06 2008 03:56 Kennigit wrote:
Im interested to know why you are glad. Religious based?
Im interested to know why you are glad. Religious based?
Maybe he's homosexual and his partner was pushing him to marry and he didn't want to =p
Prop 8 Passes/Overturned - California Bans/Unbans Gay Marr…
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
Maybe he's homosexual and his partner was pushing him to marry and he didn't want to =p | ||
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Hans-Titan
Denmark1711 Posts
On November 06 2008 04:17 DrainX wrote: After that its the acceptance of Atheists in American society  Oh yeah, forgot about that. It's just amazing how different the US is from Scandinavia: last polls I saw 88 % of the Danish population had no problems with homosexuality whatsoever, leading me to believe that the only reason we do not have gay marriage in Denmark is lack of public interest. A new law in Denmark will supposedly come soon, though, and will likely pass by a huge margin. Regarding atheism, doesn't Sweden have an atheist Prime Minister or something? I honestly don't know how many Danish MP's are christian, muslim, atheist etc, because they don't tell us, and because the public doesn't seemt to care at all. I would really like to see this change in the US, but unfortunately the election system really narrows down the demographic group eligible for a Senate seat. | ||
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On November 06 2008 04:35 gchan wrote: Actually, the church would need to marry them if a gay couple went into church asking to be married. If the church refused them on the grounds of religion, they would lose their non-profit status (which is huge). wtf are you talking about are you just making stuff up? I am pretty sure you are. what you are saying doesn't even make any sense. | ||
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IzzyCraft
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On November 06 2008 04:35 gchan wrote: Actually, the church would need to marry them if a gay couple went into church asking to be married. If the church refused them on the grounds of religion, they would lose their non-profit status (which is huge). If that's true, then THAT law should be changed. Not the right of same-sex couples to marry. | ||
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poingy
United States59 Posts
On November 06 2008 04:43 travis wrote: wtf are you talking about are you just making stuff up? I am pretty sure you are. what you are saying doesn't even make any sense. I don't believe he's making stuff up; he's just repeating stuff that someone else made up already. I think the notion that churches would not have the right to refuse same sex couples stems from the yes on prop 8 campaign. In reality, a church is even capable of refusing to marry heterosexual couples if they aren't of the church's faith. I think the California Supreme Court ruling had even brushed upon the topic of religion by stating that religious officials wouldn't be forced to marry same sex couples. Whether for or against prop 8, I think a lot of people get the wrong idea of what it is or isn't. I don't even live in California, and I can bet there are people who voted on the proposition that are even less informed than I am. | ||
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On November 06 2008 03:42 jkillashark wrote: I am so damn glad Prop 8 passed. wtf? | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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poingy
United States59 Posts
On November 06 2008 05:10 SpiralArchitect wrote:All citizens of America deserve the right to express their love, gay, straight or otherwise. Not being able to marry doesn't withhold your right to express your love with your partner. Making homosexuality illegal outright would. Marriage is largely symbolic, and considering how far down the crapper marriage in the United States has gone these days, I'd say it's a pretty weak symbol at that. Personally, I wouldn't mind if I never got married to the one I love, as the only people that I really care to know that we're in love would be myself and my partner. Of course being in a healthy heterosexual relationship probably makes that easier to say since I'm probably taking my ability to get married for granted, but that's just how I feel about marriage in general. I think a more suitable solution would be to completely abolish state recognition of "marriage" and call it domestic partnership regardless of whether it's heterosexual or homosexual. Leave the word marriage for the conservative and religious to do whatever they want with it. Defining them all as domestic partnerships by law regardless of sexual orientation would guarantee equality from the state, and churches could maintain the "sanctity" of marriage. | ||
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Augury
United States758 Posts
No matter how you look at it, you're taking away rights from people, because of society's view on something. It's wrong and it's discrimination. It's very similar to when minorities couldn't marry whites. There's no logical reason to ban gay marriage, the only reason to ban it is because you're uncomfortable with the idea or because religion is entering into the picture. Marriage isn't specific to religion, so it's retarded to bring in religion. If you're uncomfortable with the idea then that's just as bad as an idea to ban something. It's dumb that this was even voted on, the government should have enough sense to not allow something like this to go on. Edit: As far as the non profit part goes, religious organizations donated 25 million dollars to support prop 8. Doesn't seem like something a non profit organization should be spending their money on. This part is just a rant, but :/. | ||
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poingy
United States59 Posts
On November 06 2008 05:37 vsrooks wrote: It's dumb that this was even voted on, the government should have enough sense to not allow something like this to go on. It would be even worse if the citizens of a state couldn't submit a petition for amendment to state constitution. A petition was created, and enough signatures were gathered to put it on the ballot. Saying that the government should pick and choose from petitions to make it to the ballot would ruin the entire idea. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On November 06 2008 05:22 MYM.Testie wrote: jkilla is religious. Many christians support gay marriage. Lame excuse. | ||
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On November 06 2008 05:41 Kennigit wrote: Many christians support gay marriage. Lame excuse. It's like the only excuse to vote against it besides from just cuz. | ||
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Blind
United States2528 Posts
On November 06 2008 05:32 poingy wrote: I think a more suitable solution would be to completely abolish state recognition of "marriage" and call it domestic partnership regardless of whether it's heterosexual or homosexual. Leave the word marriage for the conservative and religious to do whatever they want with it. Defining them all as domestic partnerships by law regardless of sexual orientation would guarantee equality from the state, and churches could maintain the "sanctity" of marriage. This. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
On November 06 2008 05:47 IzzyCraft wrote: It's like the only excuse to vote against it besides from just cuz. I actually agree with this, I called my aunt yesterday for her birthday who lives in Cali, asked her who she voted for and if she voted for/against Prop 8. She said she voted it for it. Now she is the MOST Christian woman ever goes to church for HOURS on the weekends and is more holy than the the Virgin Mary herself. What was her reasoning behind voting for it? Not religious she said she voted for it because somehow "the schools" would have to explain to kids about gay marriage. I knew she was lying (a very devote christian thing to do btw). She's a preschool teacher. I'm not sure on how California schools work now a days, but I doubt teaching preschool kids about sexuality will ever be a problem for her or any other preschool teachers. At the end her birthday call turned into a debate... | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On November 06 2008 05:41 Kennigit wrote: Many christians support gay marriage. Lame excuse. And this one doesn't. | ||
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