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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
November 02 2008 13:43 GMT
#261
On November 02 2008 22:38 Zuries wrote:
These bombings were NOWHERE NEAR justified.


If you vote yes you are probably moronic,or an media brainwashed american idiot (most likely).

America did this to show off and to cement their future dominance.

Clear idiocy...


"Show off" is a strange word. They needed to know exactly what kind of weapon they had developed. It was absolutely _necessary_ for the american millitary to test their new toy under real conditions and not in a "lab".
And no Blackjack it didn't save American lives.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
November 02 2008 13:45 GMT
#262
/facepalm
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
November 02 2008 13:47 GMT
#263
On November 02 2008 22:45 BlackJack wrote:
/facepalm

I wouldn't have bothered to make the reply had I read your post, but it was posted while I was writing mine.
And no why would I agree on something that isn't true.
Your text books lied, I'm sorry.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
November 02 2008 13:49 GMT
#264
It must have saved American lives, because the number of American lives that were lost dropping those bombs was near zero. Presumably if the war had gone on Americans would have died somewhere, whether from kamikaze attacks or ground operations in mainland Asia. Whether it was "about American lives" is another story.
But why?
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
November 02 2008 13:51 GMT
#265
As a French, i have to say that japan should have learn to surrender earlier.
+ Show Spoiler +
:>
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
November 02 2008 13:51 GMT
#266
History teachings these days are so biased
https://www.twitch.tv/gypsy93
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
November 02 2008 13:55 GMT
#267
Lol I don't even know how to respond to this stupidity so I'm just going to leave. good day sirs!
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
November 02 2008 13:56 GMT
#268
As an addendum, the notion that the Americans dropped the bomb to scare Stalin might have produced that effect on Stalin (who reacted to the news of Hiroshima calmly, and without much impression, whatever his private feelings may have been,) but pre-dates the Cold War by 2 years.

In 1945 the foreign policy of America was still attempting to build a universal post-war order, including Soviet participation, hence the scale of concessions made to the Soviet Union at Yalta. The Cold War began in 1947, not 45, and it was not until 49-50 that the notion of two worlds was crystallized. Truman informed Stalin about the bomb at Potsdam, in an exchange which did not carry any sign of a threat.
Zuries
Profile Joined May 2008
United Kingdom156 Posts
November 02 2008 14:01 GMT
#269
On November 02 2008 22:55 BlackJack wrote:
Lol I don't even know how to respond to this stupidity so I'm just going to leave. good day sirs!


you represent most of america
FUCK SALT
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
November 02 2008 14:07 GMT
#270
On November 02 2008 22:56 MoltkeWarding wrote:
As an addendum, the notion that the Americans dropped the bomb to scare Stalin might have produced that effect on Stalin (who reacted to the news of Hiroshima calmly, and without much impression, whatever his private feelings may have been,) but pre-dates the Cold War by 2 years.

In 1945 the foreign policy of America was still attempting to build a universal post-war order, including Soviet participation, hence the scale of concessions made to the Soviet Union at Yalta. The Cold War began in 1947, not 45, and it was not until 49-50 that the notion of two worlds was crystallized. Truman informed Stalin about the bomb at Potsdam, in an exchange which did not carry any sign of a threat.


Actually I don't think Truman informed him, Stalin was spying on him and knew beforehand, I think prior to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, about the manhattan project, but I agree with the statement that htey dropped the bomb to scare Stallin
https://www.twitch.tv/gypsy93
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
November 02 2008 14:08 GMT
#271
Stalin knew, but Truman didn't know that Stalin knew, which is why when Stalin failed to react Truman thought that Stalin didn't recognize the implications of the bomb.
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
November 02 2008 14:11 GMT
#272
On November 02 2008 23:01 Zuries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2008 22:55 BlackJack wrote:
Lol I don't even know how to respond to this stupidity so I'm just going to leave. good day sirs!


you represent most of america

bla bla bla, said the islander
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
November 02 2008 14:12 GMT
#273
On November 02 2008 22:38 luiohh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2008 22:31 Archaic wrote:
If the US just timed their nukes better to hit the peon lines, or even their tech, then the second nuke wouldn't be needed.


Yeah Japan should have gged earlier once its proxy rush failed and US's macro kicked in, but US was bm to use nukes nonetheless


My advice to anyone else who is thinking about making a lame Starcraft joke is as follows: don't.
We are vigilant.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-02 14:19:49
November 02 2008 14:19 GMT
#274
it did save more american lives, how anyone can say otherwise is ridiculous.

Whether that was a REASON for the initial dropping of the bomb or not COULD be question, the after effects of less americans dying cannot

Also, the world was a different time then, its hard to look back at the past an use the present moral system and after the fact knowledge.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
November 02 2008 14:38 GMT
#275
I can't believe anyone saying it was justified. Jesus christ.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
November 02 2008 14:44 GMT
#276
Ofcourse the murdering of countless civilians isn't justifiable, it never is.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
November 02 2008 14:50 GMT
#277
When this thread was first created the poll showed 50/50 for the first couple of hours until Europe woke up and the poll shifted ^^
gm.tOSS
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany898 Posts
November 02 2008 14:59 GMT
#278
On November 02 2008 22:02 Klockan3 wrote:
Thanks to these bombs Japan surrendered unconditionally and thanks to that Japan is today one of the strongest economies of the world and have extremely high living standards.

Awesome! Lets try that on Sweden and see if it happens again.
HuK HuK HuK | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | There is death in the hane.
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
November 02 2008 15:02 GMT
#279
I really don't think the USA knew about the nuculear fallout and shit that would happen. I thught they were just under the impression that it would be a huge bomb and that would be the end of thit
https://twitter.com/quanticfograw
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
November 02 2008 15:03 GMT
#280
On November 02 2008 22:02 Klockan3 wrote:
Thanks to these bombs Japan surrendered unconditionally and thanks to that Japan is today one of the strongest economies of the world and have extremely high living standards.

looooooooooooooooooool
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
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