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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
October 09 2008 20:11 GMT
#161
On October 09 2008 18:15 fight_or_flight wrote:
Now, observe something. All of the green is actual, real money. All of the gray represents real, physical collateral which is owed to banks. They are houses, hotels, farms, schools, companies, and much more. Literally trillions of dollars worth of assets. All of which are owed to banks. In fact, the amount of stuff owed to banks far exceeds the amount of physical money out there.

The only way this is possible is if the banks obtained the rights to that collateral without actually putting up valid consideration. You see, you sign your property over to the bank and they give you money which they don't actually have. Remember, the gray on that graph only exists as digits on a computer.

So essentially, the "thin air" part comes from the fact that you trade something physical for the bank writing something on a balance sheet. Yes, it is a structured procedure. But the very fact that more can be owed, orders of magnitude more, than there is money in the economy shows that something is being created out of thin air, or else you would need an equal amount of value for the value of the collateral being offered.

this is so wrong.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
bboyldy
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Korea (North)664 Posts
October 10 2008 08:25 GMT
#162
http://thezeitgeistmovement.com

gogo
expressing myself through the form of dancing
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
October 10 2008 10:51 GMT
#163
arguments and debates on TL would be a lot less complicated, and less informed people would get a lot less intellectual beatdowns; if there were a part of everyone's profile that listed their academic qualifications...I know from personal experience lol.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
gor56
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada11 Posts
October 10 2008 16:25 GMT
#164
All I gotta say is that I'm both highly suspicious of this "zeitgeist movement" and excited by it at the same time... the possibility of revolution is always exciting but we should always worry about how it'll be carried out. That, and there are lots of conspiracy theories about zeitgeist itself. Be vigilant in choosing your teachers and leaders guys. Come up with your own conclusions and solutions... your own critical reasoning is the only thing that can defend you from deception.
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
October 11 2008 01:45 GMT
#165
i just wanted to drop by and cheer everybody on and assure everyone that replied to me with giant walls of text i will be getting back with them sometime in the future.
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 11 2008 17:41 GMT
#166
gor56, good posts man
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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