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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-28 01:35:54
February 28 2008 01:24 GMT
#21
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Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
February 28 2008 01:55 GMT
#22
wait, sc2 is still coming out though right!?!?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
February 28 2008 02:15 GMT
#23
On February 28 2008 10:55 Proposal wrote:
wait, sc2 is still coming out though right!?!?


Last I heard, they're scraping what they had of SCII, and selling what can be salvaged of it to Westwood Corp. to make Tiberian Sun Wars & Conquerors III - The Return of Kane. Blizzard on the other hand will now focus on Diablo III - The Diabolic Desktop Adventures from Hell.

Trustory.
kyjori
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
371 Posts
February 28 2008 03:37 GMT
#24
Djetter, a FANTASTIC essay. You are absolutely right when it comes to purchasing laptops nowdays. I bought my most recent one last summer and it is good enough to play something up to WOW/Lineage 2/Worcraft 3, but anything beyond that is pointless. Hell, i dont even bother to play half life 2 because of the fact that the trade off in performace for the graphics upgrade IS NOT WORTH IT. I hope to god sc2 keeps on track with the idea that sc2 wwont be so graphic intesnive, and can be played by the masses without owning a super computer or forced to buy a desktop...(i will never buy one again ^_^)

On February 28 2008 09:43 Last Romantic wrote:
I do have a PC that can run more stuff, but eh. What's the point. I'm not going to buy a crap game with fancy graphics if it plays like crap and I get bored of it that fast. This is why people should focus less on graphics and more on gameplay.


and last romantic... your posts are freaking awesome.
I KEEP PREACHING THE SAME THING TO MY FRIENDS~ FUCK THE GRAPHICS, MAKE THE GAMEPLAY WORTH IT~~!!!!!! it seems like the focus nowdays tend to be, "OH LOOK AT TEHSE VISUAL IMAGES, HOW REALISTIC THEYARE~~ NEVERMIND THAT TEH GAME SUCKS ASS, BUT THESE GRAPHICS ARE SO AWESOME U SHOULD BUY IT~~~ TOP OF THE LINE!~!!!!"

for those visually stunning games, we do what we do best, TORRENTS >_< but a good game like sc or warcraft 3 : dota, we will end up buying the game for a legitimate cd key to play via online with others~~~~~
blizzard has it right with d2, sc, war3 where people were forced to buy it to partake in the most enjoyable aspect of the game, playing against other people... i hope to god blizzard alwasy sticks to this. they have always made fun to play games no matter what the genre...
ShoutAbout
Profile Joined April 2007
Brazil177 Posts
February 28 2008 03:41 GMT
#25
On February 28 2008 10:24 omgbnetsux wrote:
I say it all the time - why buy a $300 video card when I have a $300 Xbox that can play it? If it won't work on my laptop, fuck it.


Word.
Get off my plane!
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
February 28 2008 03:48 GMT
#26
nooooooooo i want my SC2,3,4 and my eternity worth of Warcrack. what we need is Aktion T5 and eliminate all the consoles out there!!

but seriously, i dont see how PC game can be doomed. i think console has a lead and will maintain it for a while, but the point is PC itself is a very versatile platform and the possibilities are limitless. it may not be the preferable platform since revenue generation is limited but viable and flexible nonetheless.
...from the land of imba
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20172 Posts
February 28 2008 03:54 GMT
#27
I'm not screwed, i have a ps3 that i enjoy greatly
but pc wont die as long as there are online games that require cd keys. developers will just have to *gasp* focus on gameplay!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
February 28 2008 03:54 GMT
#28
^ Future hacked xbox360 owner here.
Blizzard better not do anything stupid, I still want Starcraft Ghost damn it.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 28 2008 03:55 GMT
#29
fortunately I have a PS3/Xbox360 and a PC.. no game can escape me MUAHAHAA
Pwntrucci[sR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1519 Posts
February 28 2008 03:57 GMT
#30
The fact is there are no good pc games these days. My computer sucks hard but even if it didn't, the only game I've seen recently that interested me somewhat was The Witcher. I'm certainly not going to shell out upwards of 1000$ in upgrades to play one damn game. When sc2 comes out I won't have a choice, but till then I'll keep waving my wiimote around (and playing some random micro arena of course.)
bg
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-28 06:13:46
February 28 2008 03:57 GMT
#31
Laptops anyway are more for work/education by their function alone; they offer much less in gaming experience. I'd never dream of gaming on a laptop for anything other than card games or chess unless I had no choice.
Someone forgot to measure the WoW factor anyway; a pc game. It made many game developing companies raise their eye brows and ponder a little deeper about the possibilities of the pc gaming market.

The way I see it consoles are getting more and more functions, i.e. they are becoming more and more like a PC's anyway.

"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
February 28 2008 03:59 GMT
#32
Thats why I opted to pay another 100 for a dedicated graphics card in my laptop. Im not much of a gamer, so I dont mind running the more recent games on low settings.
Moonlight Shadow
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
February 28 2008 04:03 GMT
#33
I is ignorant, but it seems like hardware designers, software designers, and operating system designers for PC are very irresponsible.

Comparing the technical specifications of an XBox360 and the shittiest new Dell Desktop you can buy, the Dell looks far superior. But it can't even come close to the gaming power.

Would it be far fetched to say that games could be optimized more, have more scalability, and operating systems could have less overhead? Vista uses and INSANE amount of system resources. It seems like it would make more sense to run all games from a command line interface, but that won't happen.

It's ridiculous how powerful your hardware needs to be to compete with the capabilities of a console made specifically for gaming. The prices are the main barrier, things should run more efficiently, and waste fewer resources (including what the operating system uses).
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
February 28 2008 04:08 GMT
#34
Online gaming is still and will be superior than on consoles, as long as PCs exist (everyone will end up owning laptops..) there will be a market.

Dont talk shit about laptops tho, the performance of them the last 2 years has gone up craploads and they expect that graphics (just like cpus) will close in on desktop graphics by alot.

And currently competition in the laptop industry is HUGE, we'll get balla laptops, I cant wait for new Zepto computers, i'm getting one. the 8600gt is a bit to weak on the current ones.

ZEPTO RULES
hello there
Tiamat
Profile Joined February 2003
United States498 Posts
February 28 2008 04:27 GMT
#35
To everyone complaining about "1000 PC upgrade" you can build a badass computer for half that if you use your existing case, DVD etc. And also your not just buying all those parts for just an xbox, you are buying a word processor, internet hub, porn, games, jukebox, email, and for some a workspace to make a living.

Instead of surfing Myspace all day and clicking on that starcraft icon, try programing a game or downloading some porn. I'd like to see your Xbox do that!
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
February 28 2008 04:37 GMT
#36
The fact is there are no good pc games these days. My computer sucks hard but even if it didn't, the only game I've seen recently that interested me somewhat was The Witcher. I'm certainly not going to shell out upwards of 1000$ in upgrades to play one damn game. When sc2 comes out I won't have a choice, but till then I'll keep waving my wiimote around (and playing some random micro arena of course.)
The Witcher was the first game that I actually went to the store to purchase (Went to Carrefour Angrignon for the first time in like, 4 years) after having pirated it. The entire game, the forum, the everything just screams at you with quality. Its like a developer actually took their time and created a world, something we used to take for granted. Gaming doesn't feel like it did when we played commander keen shareware, or got a floppy disc with zeliard on it for Christmas. Even console gaming just doesn't have the proper flair anymore.

The only game i've played in the past 6 months and really enjoyed myself while doing so was "I Wanna Be The Guy", and that's sad.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
February 28 2008 04:54 GMT
#37
Interesting argument. I agree with your point. I like older games because they're well, so easy to run. Starcraft takes almost no time to load and never lags. COD4 or Supreme Commander, on the other hand (which I can run on my laptop with its Mobility Radeon X1400, albeit just barely) take forever to load and lag like hell.
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-28 08:06:52
February 28 2008 08:06 GMT
#38
On February 28 2008 12:57 Physician wrote:
Someone forgot to measure the WoW factor anyway; a pc game. It made many game developing companies raise their eye brows and ponder a little deeper about the possibilities of the pc gaming market.

World of Warcraft is definitely a point to consider. It's a game type that can't be easily adapted to a game console, given the need for a full keyboard. But my basic point still holds true, I think. Even though MMOGs can't be pirated, I have to wonder whether WoW would have even half its subscribers if it had the system requirements of, say, Call of Duty 4.
TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
February 28 2008 08:13 GMT
#39
I agree wholeheartedly. That's why Microsoft doesn't care if they take a $100 hit for every Xbox console sold... because they make their millions through the actual games.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
February 28 2008 08:17 GMT
#40
On February 28 2008 17:13 TheosEx wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly. That's why Microsoft doesn't care if they take a $100 hit for every Xbox console sold... because they make their millions through the actual games.

Isn't that short term? I remember hearing after the first few initial shipments they make sick profit as they should.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
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