EPTI admit it's very odd to see not even the idea of proof that he's alive well and walking outside his house in response to this but my money is on Iran being a real coup before china.
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Sermokala
United States14145 Posts
I admit it's very odd to see not even the idea of proof that he's alive well and walking outside his house in response to this but my money is on Iran being a real coup before china. | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
Nothing of the sort has happened in China. | ||
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mounteast0
59 Posts
As for heightened security in beijing, it might just because of the "20th national congress" that will take place on 16/oct, which take place once in 5 years. It is kind of "presidential election" if you "compare it to other countries" (they are not the same, but some element are, and the importance are the same), so it is not too abnormal to have some kind of security / army movement that you won't see at other times. If there is indeed a coup, there will be information coming out very soon, and unless I read about information that Xi is not going to sit for the third term, I don't think there is any need to contemplate this coup "news". | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17768 Posts
US prohibited Nvidia and AMD from selling chips to China, stemming their AI development. They're asking allies to also stop providing chips to China. | ||
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Razyda
1013 Posts
On October 04 2022 21:07 Manit0u wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXjnZdNGAo US prohibited Nvidia and AMD from selling chips to China, stemming their AI development. They're asking allies to also stop providing chips to China. Judging from this it seems that bolded part from the news mentioned in AxiomB post is quite accurate  . On August 31 2022 12:16 AxiomB wrote: Fascinating Thread. I find this article trustworthy: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2334921-heatwave-in-china-is-the-most-severe-ever-recorded-in-the-world/ “There is nothing in world climatic history which is even minimally comparable to what is happening in China.” Also "It remains scientifically unclear whether cloud seeding makes a significant difference." My understanding is that ground temperatures anywhere in the world can be read by weather satellites pretty accurately. If the CCP were to spread false temperature readings via news etc, the jig would be up pretty quickly due to temperature reports from outside of China. That said the CCP is certainly downplaying the severity of the climate crisis in China, this is to be expected and can be seen 1st hand by the lack of reporting on the subject from the major pro CCP and Xi Jinping news outlets: Search 'Climate' and/or 'Drought' on the major pro CCP news outlets; http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/ and https://www.globaltimes.cn/ for example. BTW these 'news' sites are actually hilarious, the level of 'Wonderful leader, China is the greatest' combined with 'poor China, we are victims, USA is the worst' is cracked. The nude unashamed propaganda maw, unmoved by mere facts, propelled by its own truth holds the people high, high aloft in dreams of unique success. It feeds them, clothes them and nurses them with but one aim alone; complete control of humanity through the historical narrative. There in utopian embraces it shackles us, only to unceremoniously devour and shit us out once we behold its eyes, its gargantuan lust for docile minds. And there in the death-muck we warn you; none are immune to its allure. On September 16 2022 20:42 Manit0u wrote: Yeah. There are also news of people painting grass, bushes, quarries and mountain sides (with green oil paint no less) as well as rolling camo netting down the hills and stapling fake leaves on the trees to pretend everything is fine... It really paints a bleak picture. Especially now with extended and stricter lockdowns (to the point where they don't let people evacuate during earthquakes) it all seems like China is visibly falling apart at the seams while simultaneously trying to project the image of strength. Edit: This is pretty crazy... Bolded - You have Poland in your profile (I am Polish too) - guess in what other country similar practices took place . | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17768 Posts
 In any case, right now it looks like China with all the problems is doubling down on authoritarian stuff and cracking down on their people even more. If all this continues they might end up like North Korea - completely isolating themselves from the rest of the world. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14145 Posts
You can't go backwards on standards of living that far until the people rise up. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17768 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8880 Posts
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Razyda
1013 Posts
On October 05 2022 04:27 Manit0u wrote: A fellow Pole and a DoomTrooper/WarZone fan? What are the chances? In any case, right now it looks like China with all the problems is doubling down on authoritarian stuff and cracking down on their people even more. If all this continues they might end up like North Korea - completely isolating themselves from the rest of the world. For a fellow Pole pretty good, Doom Trooper/ Warzone fan somewhat slim .Most in this thread seem to assume that Chinese people are unhappy with status quo. Few seemingly Chinese people posting here seemed to think otherwise (apologies if I missed someone who claimed otherwise). If I were to take a guess I would say that it seems, like people are struggling with the concept that people living differently can be fine. Add to it fact that entire country seems to be successful and it is no surprise that people feel uncomfortable. Last paragraph is purely guess and so I may be wrong. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4767 Posts
On October 05 2022 18:37 Razyda wrote: For a fellow Pole pretty good, Doom Trooper/ Warzone fan somewhat slim Not as slim as one might have thought. I too played Doomtrooper/Warzone/Mutant Chronicles | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17768 Posts
On October 05 2022 19:21 Silvanel wrote: Not as slim as one might have thought. I too played Doomtrooper/Warzone/Mutant Chronicles The name "Razyda" would indicate Mutant Chronicles or Kult universum. It was not a complete shot in the dark on my part when it comes to favorite games. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10146 Posts
On October 05 2022 18:37 Razyda wrote: For a fellow Pole pretty good, Doom Trooper/ Warzone fan somewhat slim .Most in this thread seem to assume that Chinese people are unhappy with status quo. Few seemingly Chinese people posting here seemed to think otherwise (apologies if I missed someone who claimed otherwise). If I were to take a guess I would say that it seems, like people are struggling with the concept that people living differently can be fine. Add to it fact that entire country seems to be successful and it is no surprise that people feel uncomfortable. Last paragraph is purely guess and so I may be wrong. I didn't see that much about enjoying their lifestyle, but rather being submissive to their status quo. I enjoy my lifestyle right now, but I do think there is plenty room for change. Instead if memory serves (i am oversimplifying), most answers derived that China requires that kind of totalitarian rule. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14145 Posts
On October 05 2022 09:44 Manit0u wrote: I wonder if people in China even remember how to rise up though. They've been oppressed and brainwashed for so long and survived so many atrocities under this government that I don't really know what's their breaking point. If Great Chinese Famine (caused by the government) where tens of millions of people died didn't sway people it's hard to imagine what would. No body has revolted in the world like the Chinese have revolted. Great famines in the past has caused revolts but now people have cars factory jobs and education. You can't put the genie back into the bottle when it comes to giving people mountain dew if you know what I mean. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17768 Posts
China seems to ignore international laws. Members of the consulate in the UK tore down protester's signs, dragged them into embassy borders and started beating them up. They had to be saved by the UK policemen. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11885 Posts
On October 20 2022 01:19 JimmiC wrote: I hate the fashion and clothing industries. I do not get how they seem to escape the scrunity of other industries when the profit they make is so extreme and they do it off the backs of slave labour while poluting the world. China is the main contributor, apparently they need some unions because for a country that claims to be run by the people it sure treats their workers awfully. Im not even sure if these are the worst jobs in the country which is a scary thought. https://ca.style.yahoo.com/report-horrific-working-conditions-at-shein-193524024.html And the worst is that 80% of those clothes are completely useless. People just buy far too many clothes. Then these clothes sit in closets for a few years until being thrown away. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17768 Posts
On October 20 2022 04:47 JimmiC wrote: I really hate it, I think from a personal finance stand point it is awful, from a environmental standpoint (waste, dyes, energy costs both making and shipping) it is awful, from a two few people making WAY too much money it is awful and the human impact is horrific. I do not know why people seem to not think that it is on the level of "big banks", "big pharma", "big oil" because it is and in many ways it is worse. It provides very little benefit to people and is like 95% frivolous. "The spice must flow" - to quote the classic. It doesn't matter how fruitless or harmful something is as long as it's raking in money and providing business opportunities. But back to the topic of China providing much of the labor for a lot of things and their working conditions it does really go against their "communist" ideals where the working class should also be the one controlling the means of production and thus empowered. | ||
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pmh
1416 Posts
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-17/blinken-says-china-wants-taiwan-on-much-faster-timeline 3 days old story. Ww3 or whatever it will be called in history books has already started. Everyone is just waiting untill the inevitable happens (with inevitable i dont mean nuclear war by the way,ww3 could be conventional). Maybe i misjudge the situation,i can only hope so. | ||
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