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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 14 2022 18:59 GMT
#1841
So it appears that the Moskva is still afloat, but still burning.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 14 2022 20:02 GMT
#1842
Russians just said that Moskva sank in a storm

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14383383
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9266 Posts
April 14 2022 20:25 GMT
#1843
So it's true, Moskva cruiser was promoted to submarine
You're now breathing manually
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-14 20:39:04
April 14 2022 20:38 GMT
#1844
funny, how did the other ships survive said storm?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Artesimo
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany565 Posts
April 14 2022 20:53 GMT
#1845
On April 15 2022 05:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
funny, how did the other ships survive said storm?


They actually might not have lied this time. From the russian press release, it says that it sunk while it was towed due to hull damage. They say the hull damage was caused by ammunition exploding after a fire. Just don't ask how or what started that fire.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2294 Posts
April 14 2022 21:21 GMT
#1846
This is my very unrepentant shadenfreunde. This ship was bombarding Odessa, I have no pitty neither for crew or a Russia as a whole.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-14 21:22:30
April 14 2022 21:21 GMT
#1847
So with some delay they actually sunk the main ship of the fleet. With a in-house designed anti ship missile. What a win.

The Moskva cruiser was also actually built in Ukraine in Mykolaiv, I wonder if they had some specific knowledge about it's radar weaknesses. Though I guess it probably has had several refits by now.
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2294 Posts
April 14 2022 21:28 GMT
#1848
On April 15 2022 06:21 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
So with some delay they actually sunk the main ship of the fleet. With a in-house designed anti ship missile. What a win.

The Moskva cruiser was also actually built in Ukraine in Mykolaiv, I wonder if they had some specific knowledge about it's radar weaknesses. Though I guess it probably has had several refits by now.


They had, they have twin unit docked in Mikolaiv named Ukraina. Which is a scrap today.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
April 14 2022 21:52 GMT
#1849
On April 15 2022 05:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
funny, how did the other ships survive said storm?

Well for one, the front didn't fall off.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
April 14 2022 22:35 GMT
#1850
Russia out there breaking records. The largest ship to sink since WW2. Bravo.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5727 Posts
April 14 2022 22:37 GMT
#1851
On April 15 2022 07:35 Mohdoo wrote:
Russia out there breaking records. The largest ship to sink since WW2. Bravo.

Soon to be the largest country to break up since the USSR. ;-)
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
April 14 2022 23:07 GMT
#1852
On April 15 2022 07:37 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2022 07:35 Mohdoo wrote:
Russia out there breaking records. The largest ship to sink since WW2. Bravo.

Soon to be the largest country to break up since the USSR. ;-)


Not if you believe the edgelord commies on Twitter

"Actually defaulting on their debt is terrible for the West"

"Russia this many soldiers in a war is only evidence capitalism has failed"

"Sanctions will only further erode Western dominance"

From what I can tell, the same people who were manipulated in 2016 and 2020, through incredibly transparent means and motivations, are extremely confident that their unique news sources are totally legit this time.

Oh and the whole "actually Ukraine is a modern Nazi state" nonsense.
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-15 01:12:18
April 15 2022 01:10 GMT
#1853
Russian media is going crazy over a ship that sank by ‘accident’

I hope they don’t go nuclear over this.

...
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 15 2022 01:49 GMT
#1854
--- Nuked ---
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14068 Posts
April 15 2022 02:58 GMT
#1855
Schrotingers Propaganda. The official story is both real and at the same time just propaganda that everyone knows isn't real.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
April 15 2022 03:17 GMT
#1856
On April 15 2022 11:58 Sermokala wrote:
Schrotingers Propaganda. The official story is both real and at the same time just propaganda that everyone knows isn't real.


Reminds me of Republican response to Jan 6.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18172 Posts
April 15 2022 08:22 GMT
#1857
On April 15 2022 11:58 Sermokala wrote:
Schrotingers Propaganda. The official story is both real and at the same time just propaganda that everyone knows isn't real.

Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 15 2022 09:30 GMT
#1858
Germany's Habeck angers allies in NATO by saying:

“Heavy weapons are synonymous with tanks, and all NATO countries have so far ruled this out to not become targets themselves,” said Habeck, who also serves as Germany’s economy and climate minister, arguing that NATO and the EU must first debate whether “we want to change this line.”


This comes after the Czechs sent T-72 tanks to Ukraine ten days ago, and several other allies sent heavy weapons as well.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17573 Posts
April 15 2022 09:46 GMT
#1859
Some of the recent developments are kind of worrying... There are videos of Russia moving ICBMs west. Japan has changed its constitution in order to send equipment to Ukraine (they changed articles about sending military aid to countries at war) and are now in the process of removing "Self Defense" prefix from their military - most likely the result of Russia dropping diplomatic relations with them and ceasing peace talks over Kuril Islands that have been ongoing since WW2, to which Japan responded "move out or we will move you out".

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Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-15 10:06:22
April 15 2022 10:06 GMT
#1860
On April 15 2022 18:46 Manit0u wrote:
Some of the recent developments are kind of worrying... There are videos of Russia moving ICBMs west. Japan has changed its constitution in order to send equipment to Ukraine (they changed articles about sending military aid to countries at war) and are now in the process of removing "Self Defense" prefix from their military - most likely the result of Russia dropping diplomatic relations with them and ceasing peace talks over Kuril Islands that have been ongoing since WW2, to which Japan responded "move out or we will move you out".

+ Show Spoiler +
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That development in Japan has been ongoing for a number of years and has been accelerated even more with the Abe government. They may use this as an opportunity to finalize this, but it is really not a surprise. The discussion on dropping the self-defense limitations has been going on for many years.
And if you look at their hardware, this development is even older. And it is rather clearly directed straight against China.

Look for example at their helicopter carriers of the Izumo class. Those ships were classified as escort ships and destroyers to comply with their self-defense clauses but are for all practical reasons full-fledged aircraft carriers armed with F35.
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