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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.
EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation187 Posts
September 10 2025 13:16 GMT
#17181
On September 03 2025 20:10 Manit0u wrote:


A summary of Russian summer offensive. TLDR: nothing was really achieved.


fully agreed
^^
This man suffers from a bad heart, but I have plenty of medicine.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5739 Posts
September 10 2025 15:01 GMT
#17182
On September 10 2025 19:18 Sent. wrote:
Wonder if Russians are going to pretend those weren't their drones or come up something more creative.

They have done just that.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17610 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-11 03:05:36
September 10 2025 22:45 GMT
#17183
The drones supposedly had Polish and Lithuanian SIM cards in them. It wasn't an accident.

Also, looking at the drone paths it's pretty clear they're at least testing the air defense around 2 key areas:
  • Rzeszów airport - major hub in eastern Poland serving as a convergence and distribution point for military aid delivery to Ukraine
  • Suwałki gap - the tight channel that would be primary access from NATO territory into the Baltics if push came to shove.

What I'm worried about is that some of the drones flew over Ukraine and then Belarus to get to Suwałki region "from the back" basically. I wonder how that would affect the potential disposition of anti-air defense.

Edit: and pronunciation guide because those places might come up in the future
rzeszów - jeshoov
suwałki - soovawkee
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-11 13:28:17
September 11 2025 13:27 GMT
#17184
In my ideal world, what a response to this should be is a no fly zone over Ukraine west of Dnieper River.

It would be, if we are looking at this in normal, not conforming to Russian views of the world an under reaction, since it wouldn't involve NATO Air assets crossing into Russian territory.

It would be great to have all these jets and helis who helped down these shitty Shaheds to be patrolling and ready to intercept them as well as the cruise missiles that are hitting residential areas and, very rarely, military targets in and around Kyiv, Lviv and other important cities in the Western Ukraine and allow Ukraine's own anti air assets to be better utilized along the front.

Of course, none of that will happen, what I'm seeing discussed is a total visa ban for Russians which is dumb, because it prevents people who might want to escape that hellhole from doing so, but at least it might help against the constant Russian hybrid warfare shit like burning down malls and killing dissidents, but even for this I'm not holding high hopes.

To me, it seems like NATO is subservient to Trump, Rutte is a huge ass kisser and will do nothing too radical because it might anger Russia ally Trump.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3380 Posts
September 11 2025 17:06 GMT
#17185
On September 11 2025 07:45 Manit0u wrote:
The drones supposedly had Polish and Lithuanian SIM cards in them. It wasn't an accident.

That's been the case at least since July.
What's far more convincing is that Russian online bot army was standing by just as the attack took place.
The 'might be Ukrainian drones - you never know' narrative was pushed immediately without waiting for instructions.
They were clearly ready and waiting.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1975 Posts
September 12 2025 14:06 GMT
#17186
Poland rejects Trump's suggestion that Russia's drone raid "could have been a mistake"
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9268 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-12 14:42:10
September 12 2025 14:41 GMT
#17187
Hey, sending 19 drones hundreds of kilometers into another state's airspace is a honest mistake. It can happen to anyone!
You're now breathing manually
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11719 Posts
September 12 2025 15:59 GMT
#17188
It just happened to me the other day. My neighbour was really pissed off when they blew up his tomatoes, but then i apologized and said that it was a mistake, and now we are good again.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5739 Posts
September 13 2025 19:08 GMT
#17189
More drones crossing into NATO countries. Honestly, it's about time we started blowing Russians up in Ukraine.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9268 Posts
September 13 2025 20:00 GMT
#17190
My first idea was sending a swarm of unarmed drones to land on Kaliningrad or Petersburg's central squares but that would be stepping down to Russia's level.

I would consider starting to shoot down air targets IN western Ukraine FROM Poland but I'm not 100% convinced it would be the right move because there's no way Trump admin would okay that and if they don't they'll have a nice excuse to leave us on our own in case Russia decides to escalate further. I'm hoping the EU as a whole will come up with some good retaliation idea.
You're now breathing manually
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5739 Posts
September 13 2025 20:10 GMT
#17191
We should stop giving a shit about Trump. He's a Russian asset. The US won't lift a finger when push comes to shove.
spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-14 11:21:45
September 14 2025 10:07 GMT
#17192
Ah fk it I'll retract what I said
You were wrong before, what makes you think you're right now
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11719 Posts
September 14 2025 10:16 GMT
#17193
Firstly, AI is not a source, and the point of this forum is not to repost stuff AI tells you. Make your own arguments. Also, AI has zero authority, because you can get it to say whatever you want it to say if you give it the right prompt.

Secondly: Has anyone asked you to rehash the russian talking points again? Because that is what that is. This really looks like a bot post.
spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-14 11:22:27
September 14 2025 10:19 GMT
#17194
Fk it I retract what I said
You were wrong before, what makes you think you're right now
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5739 Posts
September 14 2025 11:55 GMT
#17195
On September 14 2025 19:16 Simberto wrote:
Firstly, AI is not a source, and the point of this forum is not to repost stuff AI tells you. Make your own arguments. Also, AI has zero authority, because you can get it to say whatever you want it to say if you give it the right prompt.

Secondly: Has anyone asked you to rehash the russian talking points again? Because that is what that is. This really looks like a bot post.

What did he say?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11719 Posts
September 14 2025 14:34 GMT
#17196
On September 14 2025 20:55 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2025 19:16 Simberto wrote:
Firstly, AI is not a source, and the point of this forum is not to repost stuff AI tells you. Make your own arguments. Also, AI has zero authority, because you can get it to say whatever you want it to say if you give it the right prompt.

Secondly: Has anyone asked you to rehash the russian talking points again? Because that is what that is. This really looks like a bot post.

What did he say?


Something along the lines of "I asked AI to critically evaluate (something about the Ukraine war that i don't recall exactly), and the response was "Standard Russian talking points about how totally unfair it is to call the war "unprovoked", and a bunch of other similar stuff".
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5739 Posts
September 14 2025 14:57 GMT
#17197
Makes about as much sense as calling the Holocaust unprovoked, citing some conspiracy theories.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9268 Posts
September 14 2025 15:22 GMT
#17198
He corrected himself, maybe let him keep his mistake secret.
You're now breathing manually
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1975 Posts
September 14 2025 19:11 GMT
#17199
On September 14 2025 23:57 maybenexttime wrote:
Makes about as much sense as calling the Holocaust unprovoked, citing some conspiracy theories.


Tucker Carlson was saying this exact thing recently. The Holocaust only happened because globalist FDR forced Germany to do it.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5739 Posts
September 17 2025 19:32 GMT
#17200
https://www.rmf24.pl/fakty/swiat/news-zamachy-planowane-w-polsce-niemczech-i-wielkiej-brytanii-w-t,nId,8021732

Several suspects have been identified with regards to the Russian terrorist attacks linked to GRU (you may remember those fires on DHL airplanes, etc.).
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