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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17724 Posts
July 07 2025 17:52 GMT
#16561
On July 08 2025 02:28 Simberto wrote:
Probably suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head three times.

Also, lol at literally everyone in that story being corrupt as fuck.


Death from natural bullets.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4613 Posts
July 07 2025 22:09 GMT
#16562
On July 08 2025 02:52 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2025 02:28 Simberto wrote:
Probably suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head three times.

Also, lol at literally everyone in that story being corrupt as fuck.


Death from natural bullets.


Lead poisoning?
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7148 Posts
July 08 2025 08:03 GMT
#16563
Trump says he’ll send new weapons to Ukraine

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/07/politics/trump-new-weapons-ukraine
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1346 Posts
July 08 2025 08:37 GMT
#16564
I know it's the general sentiment and it's been said many times, but the fact that a fate of a Country of 40+ million people depends on which side of the bed a malignant narcissist wakes up is just fucking depressing.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7148 Posts
July 08 2025 08:42 GMT
#16565
On July 08 2025 17:37 Jankisa wrote:
I know it's the general sentiment and it's been said many times, but the fact that a fate of a Country of 40+ million people depends on which side of the bed a malignant narcissist wakes up is just fucking depressing.


I think there were some additional phone calls to Putin and Zelensky where Putins was like "lol you do not have any more weapons" and Zelensky was like "you have the bestest weapons evar, can I try some? And also we'll appoint a pretty new ambassador lady just for you"
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8248 Posts
July 08 2025 08:53 GMT
#16566
On July 08 2025 07:09 0x64 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2025 02:52 Manit0u wrote:
On July 08 2025 02:28 Simberto wrote:
Probably suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head three times.

Also, lol at literally everyone in that story being corrupt as fuck.


Death from natural bullets.


Lead poisoning?


Acute lead poisoning.

This one is the first that could actually be a potential suicide tho. Not saying it's likely, based on Putin's history, but it is the first time it actually looks like one. Every other time they've been very obvious about the fact that they're assassinations, to send a message to anyone else who might think of crossing him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
July 08 2025 09:35 GMT
#16567
When is ‚you’re to be fired at‘ going to become a common way of being told you‘re being laid off in Russia ?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7148 Posts
July 08 2025 09:49 GMT
#16568
On July 08 2025 18:35 Vivax wrote:
When is ‚you’re to be fired at‘ going to become a common way of being told you‘re being laid off in Russia ?


It's actually " you are beeing thrown out" + Show Spoiler +
of a window
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11800 Posts
July 08 2025 09:51 GMT
#16569
You get fired. Out of a cannon. Into the sun.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1346 Posts
July 08 2025 10:16 GMT
#16570
On July 08 2025 17:42 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2025 17:37 Jankisa wrote:
I know it's the general sentiment and it's been said many times, but the fact that a fate of a Country of 40+ million people depends on which side of the bed a malignant narcissist wakes up is just fucking depressing.


I think there were some additional phone calls to Putin and Zelensky where Putins was like "lol you do not have any more weapons" and Zelensky was like "you have the bestest weapons evar, can I try some? And also we'll appoint a pretty new ambassador lady just for you"


Yeah, that tracks.

It's just that it's so fucking depressing, I mean, I don't even know, was there ever a historical precedence for this, just a stupid, easily manipulated leader changing his mind and doing random shit from day to day?

It's incredibly sad that because of this fucking moron people actually live or die, have ammunition or don't, have interceptors to defend their cities form terrorist bombings or don't, that some family might die in their beds or a bunch of young people in a bar because this fucking moron swindled a nation of (substantial numbers of) fucking morons into installing him as the most powerful person in the world and now he gets to decide all these things based on flattery and bribes.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2340 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-08 10:33:07
July 08 2025 10:32 GMT
#16571
On July 08 2025 17:53 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2025 07:09 0x64 wrote:
On July 08 2025 02:52 Manit0u wrote:
On July 08 2025 02:28 Simberto wrote:
Probably suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head three times.

Also, lol at literally everyone in that story being corrupt as fuck.


Death from natural bullets.


Lead poisoning?


Acute lead poisoning.

This one is the first that could actually be a potential suicide tho. Not saying it's likely, based on Putin's history, but it is the first time it actually looks like one. Every other time they've been very obvious about the fact that they're assassinations, to send a message to anyone else who might think of crossing him.


He was afraid he could kill himself with jump from a window, so he preempted himself with shoting... himself.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1667 Posts
July 08 2025 13:07 GMT
#16572
On July 08 2025 17:03 Harris1st wrote:
Trump says he’ll send new weapons to Ukraine

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/07/politics/trump-new-weapons-ukraine

Trump Always Chickens Out (TACO)

But really when you look into narcissist's this is just what they do. Create chaos around them that they can control and be the hero. So he cancels shit to get that rush than restarts to get that rush. Same thing with tariffs and likely his whole life.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-08 15:18:10
July 08 2025 15:17 GMT
#16573
On July 08 2025 19:16 Jankisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2025 17:42 Harris1st wrote:
On July 08 2025 17:37 Jankisa wrote:
I know it's the general sentiment and it's been said many times, but the fact that a fate of a Country of 40+ million people depends on which side of the bed a malignant narcissist wakes up is just fucking depressing.


I think there were some additional phone calls to Putin and Zelensky where Putins was like "lol you do not have any more weapons" and Zelensky was like "you have the bestest weapons evar, can I try some? And also we'll appoint a pretty new ambassador lady just for you"


Yeah, that tracks.

It's just that it's so fucking depressing, I mean, I don't even know, was there ever a historical precedence for this, just a stupid, easily manipulated leader changing his mind and doing random shit from day to day?

It's incredibly sad that because of this fucking moron people actually live or die, have ammunition or don't, have interceptors to defend their cities form terrorist bombings or don't, that some family might die in their beds or a bunch of young people in a bar because this fucking moron swindled a nation of (substantial numbers of) fucking morons into installing him as the most powerful person in the world and now he gets to decide all these things based on flattery and bribes.


Trump has strong enough institutions and short enough term that he doesn't bring his country down.

Historical rulers had much more opportunities, if Trump just got them he could belong among the greatest.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistory/comments/1bobv7i/who_are_some_of_the_most_incompetent_ancient/kwo8b83/
Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation618 Posts
July 08 2025 15:36 GMT
#16574
On July 08 2025 19:32 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2025 17:53 Excludos wrote:
On July 08 2025 07:09 0x64 wrote:
On July 08 2025 02:52 Manit0u wrote:
On July 08 2025 02:28 Simberto wrote:
Probably suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head three times.

Also, lol at literally everyone in that story being corrupt as fuck.


Death from natural bullets.


Lead poisoning?


Acute lead poisoning.

This one is the first that could actually be a potential suicide tho. Not saying it's likely, based on Putin's history, but it is the first time it actually looks like one. Every other time they've been very obvious about the fact that they're assassinations, to send a message to anyone else who might think of crossing him.


He was afraid he could kill himself with jump from a window, so he preempted himself with shoting... himself.

He was governor of Kursk region and was overseeing the construction of defensive lines, where tens of millions USD were allocated to, and several of those millions left missing, which became apparent after Ukraine incursion into Kursk. His former deputy (and briefly the next Kursk governor) Smirnov was arrested and, reportedly, was already testifying against former boss. There were also reports of Starovoit drinking heavily the last few months. I guess the case of Shoigu's team clearly shown that anyone openly stealing at the expense of the war effort will be dealt with regardless of the connections. And when you are government official used to luxury lifestyle it's kinda hard to cope with the fact that you'll spend the next fifteen-twenty years cutting trees in Siberia, and will be left with (comparatively to before) nothing after that.
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43898 Posts
July 08 2025 16:40 GMT
#16575
But Shoigu is openly stealing.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4613 Posts
July 08 2025 17:53 GMT
#16576
On July 09 2025 01:40 KwarK wrote:
But Shoigu is openly stealing.

They all are, that's how they were kept loyal until now. They also know that their turn will come, if things don't work out according to the plan.
If Putin runs out of corrupt people, he will also take a medal for cleaning corruption and the cycle continues like that forever.
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation618 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-08 18:22:13
July 08 2025 18:20 GMT
#16577
On July 09 2025 01:40 KwarK wrote:
But Shoigu is openly stealing.

Shoigu is THE Kremlin political heavyweight, being the only person in the current government who was at the top of the chain even when USSR was around (he was made the head of the State Commitee on Emergency Situations of RSFSR back in 1990, which was later reorganized as Ministry of Emergency Situations of Russian Federation), and he have close personal relations with Putin himself.
But even he in May 2024 was removed from any position of actual power or control over financial streams, now being a glorified envoy hugging with Kim. So he can't be stealing anything since he has nothing to steal from.

Other MoD top personnel on the other hand...

1. Timur Ivanov, Deputy Minister of Defence (housing and medical provision of troops, military mortgage, social services) - arrested on 22.04.2024, charge - bribe, sentenced to 13 years of general security prison.

2. Yuri Sadovenko, Head of the Office of Ministry of Defence - fired on 20.05.2024, no new appointments.

3. Dmitry Bulgakov, former Deputy Minister of Defence (2008-2022, supply and logistics) - arrested on 26.07.2024, charge - fraud.

4. Pavel Popov, Deputy Minister of Defence (RnD, communications, weapon testing) - arrested on 29.07.2024, charge - fraud.

5. Ruslan Tsalikov, First Deputy Minister of Defence (construction, financial control, state property management) - fired on 17.07.2024, later he was moved through United Russia party structure to a position of member of Tuva Republic parliament (Khural). Since Tuva is one of the shittiest Russian regions to live in, and he was repeteadly denied a position of a senator (member of Russian upper parliament, 2 of them per region) from Tuva (so he'll be back living and working in Moscow), I guess he is firmly and disgracefully exiled.

6. Tatiana Shevtsova, Deputy Minister of Defence (finances, financial planning, social spending) - fired on 17.07.2024, no new appointments, some reports of her leaving the country.

7. Nikolay Pankov, Deputy Minister of Defence (relations with other government branches) - fired on 17.07.2024, no new appointments. In his place was appointed Anna Tsivileva, daugher of Putin's cousin.

8. Yuri Kuznetsov, Head of MoD HR Department - arrested on 14.05.2024, charge - bribe.

9. Vadim Shamarin, Head of Main Communications Directorate of RuAF, Deputy Head of General Staff - arrested on 22.05.2024, charge - bribe, sentenced to 7 years of maximum security prison.

10. Vladimir Vertelezky, Head of the Department of State Defence Procurement - arrested on 23.05.2024, charge - bribe.

11. Vladimir Shesterov, Deputy Head of the MoD Department of Innovational Developments - arrested on 02.08.2024, charge - fraud.

12. Valeriy Mumindzhanov, Deputy commander of Leningrad Military District on Supply and Logistics - arrested on 02.09.2024, charge - bribe.

That's not including bunch of lower level generals and officials.
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1667 Posts
July 08 2025 18:26 GMT
#16578
That is basically proof that massive corruption is going on by basically everyone. No way that many high ups get caught and no one knew.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
July 08 2025 18:38 GMT
#16579
On July 09 2025 03:26 Billyboy wrote:
That is basically proof that massive corruption is going on by basically everyone. No way that many high ups get caught and no one knew.


It is a good way to signal to lower level people that the gravy train is over for now. Keep it in line and behave until the war is over. If they smack down the first few that pop up after the war as well it could be a permanent change, but seems unlikely in a dictatorship.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-08 19:00:15
July 08 2025 18:58 GMT
#16580
On July 09 2025 03:38 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2025 03:26 Billyboy wrote:
That is basically proof that massive corruption is going on by basically everyone. No way that many high ups get caught and no one knew.


It is a good way to signal to lower level people that the gravy train is over for now. Keep it in line and behave until the war is over. If they smack down the first few that pop up after the war as well it could be a permanent change, but seems unlikely in a dictatorship.

That is assuming it the corruption that got them arrested and not something "unloyal" and the corruption charges are just what is used. My guess is the new people are pulling the exact same scheme as before, maybe not quite as aggressively.

I think Ardias and his fellow Russians shouldn't be thinking, great we are fighting corruption. But how the hell did big powerful Putin who knows all have this all happening right under his nose?

Clearly he wanted it too.
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