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KwarK
United States43869 Posts
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Ardias
Russian Federation618 Posts
On July 09 2025 07:31 KwarK wrote: Did Shoigu sell his mansions and donate the money back to the military? The idea of Shoigu investigating anyone else for corruption is absurdly Russian. He fucking knows they took kickbacks, he has to know, he has to know when and how much so that he can ensure they're paying him his cut. I don't think that you understood the situation. Shoigu didn't investigate anything (his deputies are mainly his friends and long-time colleagues, after all), he and his team after the start of the war were under investigation from other government agencies (FSB and Investigative Committee), when it became clear that they lied to Putin about the state of readiness of the Armed Forces. Then the regular reshuffle of the government after the presidential elections was used to remove Shoigu from a position of Minister, so it wouldn't look like that he was sacked for something bad (for the reasons I described in my previous post). However he was removed from any authority or access to any kind of finances besides his salary. He keeps his mansions, yes, but that's it, he won't be getting any kind of power anymore. The fate of his team I've described above. There is also case of Andrey Turchack, son of Putin's close friend Anatoliy Turchak. In he 2017-2024 was Secretary of a General Council of United Russia Party (basically a party CEO position), as well as first deputy of the Federation Council (Russian upper parliament) but soon after the cases of fraud and overspending in Kursk started to pop up (it was some time before the Ukraine's incursion), he was sacked from this position and sent to govern the Altay republic, one of the poorest and smallest regions of Russia far in Siberia (for your understanding 70+% of population of just 200 thousand there is rural) Few months prior he was sent with inspection to Kursk defensive lines, and was reporting that everything is good and ready. So he was basically exiled into shit position where there is basically nothing to steal from, and you have to live in a poor town of 50k people, where the only good thing is a nice scenery. TLDR (also replying to BilliBoy's post): Putin doesn't care about corruption, but he cares if said corruption gets in the way of his plans, as well as if he is directly lied to about something. Close personal relations can save you from jail, but, like Shoigu and Turchak, you'll be demoted to shitty position without any power and influence, and won't be back in good graces any time soon. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9530 Posts
On July 08 2025 02:34 Billyboy wrote: I feel like there has to be a site tracking these "suicides". There is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_Russia-related_deaths_since_2022 | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7142 Posts
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Billyboy
1644 Posts
On July 09 2025 19:29 Ardias wrote: I don't think that you understood the situation. Shoigu didn't investigate anything (his deputies are mainly his friends and long-time colleagues, after all), he and his team after the start of the war were under investigation from other government agencies (FSB and Investigative Committee), when it became clear that they lied to Putin about the state of readiness of the Armed Forces. Then the regular reshuffle of the government after the presidential elections was used to remove Shoigu from a position of Minister, so it wouldn't look like that he was sacked for something bad (for the reasons I described in my previous post). However he was removed from any authority or access to any kind of finances besides his salary. He keeps his mansions, yes, but that's it, he won't be getting any kind of power anymore. The fate of his team I've described above. There is also case of Andrey Turchack, son of Putin's close friend Anatoliy Turchak. In he 2017-2024 was Secretary of a General Council of United Russia Party (basically a party CEO position), as well as first deputy of the Federation Council (Russian upper parliament) but soon after the cases of fraud and overspending in Kursk started to pop up (it was some time before the Ukraine's incursion), he was sacked from this position and sent to govern the Altay republic, one of the poorest and smallest regions of Russia far in Siberia (for your understanding 70+% of population of just 200 thousand there is rural) Few months prior he was sent with inspection to Kursk defensive lines, and was reporting that everything is good and ready. So he was basically exiled into shit position where there is basically nothing to steal from, and you have to live in a poor town of 50k people, where the only good thing is a nice scenery. TLDR (also replying to BilliBoy's post): Putin doesn't care about corruption, but he cares if said corruption gets in the way of his plans, as well as if he is directly lied to about something. Close personal relations can save you from jail, but, like Shoigu and Turchak, you'll be demoted to shitty position without any power and influence, and won't be back in good graces any time soon. Shitty situation, sucks for all Russians. On July 09 2025 20:56 2Pacalypse- wrote: There is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_Russia-related_deaths_since_2022 Thank you, I knew it was long, but wow. On July 09 2025 21:37 Harris1st wrote: Russia without all the corruption would have been scary Terrifying, or a real Democracy that was a global contributor. How wild would that be? | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1451 Posts
On July 09 2025 20:56 2Pacalypse- wrote: There is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_Russia-related_deaths_since_2022 Some of the explanations on this page are wild: "Reportedly arrived at the residence under the influence of alcohol and drugs to participate in a ritual intended to relieve the hangover, and then died of a heart attack, though critics allege toad poison."  | ||
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Yurie
12081 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17719 Posts
On July 11 2025 01:44 Yurie wrote: Kind of unrelated. Somebody is increasing their GPS and AIS jamming in the Baltic sea, Poland tracing it back to somewhere near Kaliningrad. Seems to be another escalation in the Baltic sea on top of the previous ones aimed at aircraft and cutting cables. Can confirm. Have a friend who's a runner tracking his runs and he lives near the Baltic Sea. Due to GPS jamming it makes the tracker go wild and register morning runs of over 300km (and he didn't even get top time for this distance). But runners be damned. I wonder if it has any impact on say maritime traffic in the area. Plenty of big ports around there. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17719 Posts
This is kinda worrying though. Russians are now producing Shahed drones with advanced AI for swarm logic and autonomous operation. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8247 Posts
On July 11 2025 10:46 Manit0u wrote: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/generalklochkov_shahed-136-ms001-a-digital-predator-we-weren-activity-7347608838025502720-67sh This is kinda worrying though. Russians are now producing Shahed drones with advanced AI for swarm logic and autonomous operation. We can barely make AI run an office fridge without it having a Blade Runner esque identity crisis and start selling tungsten cubes. There is no way Russia is successfully using it to run a combat drone autonomously. Secondly, if that thing is running Nvidia cards, it won't be produced in high volumes. Yeah, it's possible to get around the export block for some items, but not easily and not in high numbers. I'm a lot less worried about this than whoever wrote that article is | ||
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Yurie
12081 Posts
On July 11 2025 10:43 Manit0u wrote: Can confirm. Have a friend who's a runner tracking his runs and he lives near the Baltic Sea. Due to GPS jamming it makes the tracker go wild and register morning runs of over 300km (and he didn't even get top time for this distance). But runners be damned. I wonder if it has any impact on say maritime traffic in the area. Plenty of big ports around there. Well AIS is the warning system so ships see each other. GPS says where on sea you are so you don't hit ground in the shallow Baltic sea... | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5783 Posts
An interesting thread about extrajudicial executions in the Russian army. The scale is pretty astonishing. Trash taking itself out, I guess. Peak Russkiy Mir. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
On July 13 2025 02:27 maybenexttime wrote: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1943951342004850734.html An interesting thread about extrajudicial executions in the Russian army. The scale is pretty astonishing. Trash taking itself out, I guess. Peak Russkiy Mir. Thank you for the laugh, reading this while eating my morning cereal. A lot of the grifters pissed off to whatever hole they crawled out of when the USAID money dried up, so its mostly the hard core schizos and draft dodgers posting this slop. Anything not to talk about how things are going on the front line lol | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5783 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8247 Posts
On July 13 2025 17:03 zeo wrote: Thank you for the laugh, reading this while eating my morning cereal. A lot of the grifters pissed off to whatever hole they crawled out of when the USAID money dried up, so its mostly the hard core schizos and draft dodgers posting this slop. Anything not to talk about how things are going on the front line lol Hahaha mass murder is so funny!! | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5783 Posts
The ironic thing is that is zeo had the guts to join his fascist friends, they'd discard him as soon as he stopped being useful. Like this clown: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/american-pro-kremlin-soldier-tortured-to-death-by-four-russian-soldiers/ar-AA1qUUGH | ||
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Billyboy
1644 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
On July 13 2025 20:15 maybenexttime wrote: It's funny how you can't acknowledge just how shitty the side you're supporting is even to its own people. This is the kind of world clowns like you are helping build. It must be funny (for you) to see people base opinions on fact and not low effort propaganda. What a radical idea! The AI slop Youtube market is booming thanks to people like you with no sense about whats real. On July 14 2025 00:46 Billyboy wrote: @zeo are you Marko Perovic fan? He made news up here in Canada. I have no idea who this is. Google says hes some Monenegrin guy that used to go on shitty Serbian reality TV shows. Never seen him before dont know why he would be in Canadian news | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1451 Posts
On July 13 2025 17:03 zeo wrote: Anything not to talk about how things are going on the front line lol How things are going: Russia are three years behind schedule on their three day invasion. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17719 Posts
On July 13 2025 02:27 maybenexttime wrote: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1943951342004850734.html An interesting thread about extrajudicial executions in the Russian army. The scale is pretty astonishing. Trash taking itself out, I guess. Peak Russkiy Mir. And now imagine that at some point this war will be over and all of those people will come back to "reintegrate" into society. Good luck. | ||
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