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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42738 Posts
March 23 2022 15:40 GMT
#1301
Given they’re already getting hundreds of millions I think it’s reasonable to just request it tbh. We already paid for it, and more.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 23 2022 16:21 GMT
#1302
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 23 2022 16:37 GMT
#1303
New Casualty estimates from NATO.

NATO says that up to 40,000 Russian troops have been killed, wounded, taken prisoner or are missing in Ukraine, said a senior military official from the alliance.

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization calculates the figure based on information provided by Ukrainian authorities and information obtained from Russia--both officially and unintentionally, the official said.

NATO estimates that between 7,000 and 15,000 Russian soldiers have been killed since the invasion began on Feb. 24. Using statistical averages from past conflicts that for every casualty roughly three soldiers are wounded, NATO analysts reach their total figure.

Russia began its invasion with roughly 190,000 troops. It has since brought in additional troops from Chechnya, Syria and other locations.


Source
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 23 2022 17:30 GMT
#1304
On March 23 2022 12:42 KwarK wrote:
I guess losing large amounts of hardware to the Ukrainians does make friendly fire more confusing. It could be both coming from your own artillery and decidedly unfriendly.

Check some reports about the A-10 from Afghanistan and Iraq, there was plenty of friendly fire, I wouldn't put too much into it.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-23 18:10:17
March 23 2022 18:10 GMT
#1305
Vietnam will be suspending flights to Russia in two days.

HANOI, March 23 (Reuters) - National flag carrier Vietnam Airlines will temporarily suspend regular flights from Hanoi to Moscow starting from March 25 until further notice, the state run Vietnam News Agency (VNA) reported on Wednesday.

The suspension was to review procedures, requirements and regulations related to flight operations in Russia, VNA reported. The two countries have close ties dating back to the Soviet era and Vietnam has not so far condemned Russia's invasion of Ukraine.


Source
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 23 2022 18:24 GMT
#1306
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17267 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-23 21:04:25
March 23 2022 21:03 GMT
#1307
On March 24 2022 01:37 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
New Casualty estimates from NATO.

Show nested quote +
NATO says that up to 40,000 Russian troops have been killed, wounded, taken prisoner or are missing in Ukraine, said a senior military official from the alliance.

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization calculates the figure based on information provided by Ukrainian authorities and information obtained from Russia--both officially and unintentionally, the official said.

NATO estimates that between 7,000 and 15,000 Russian soldiers have been killed since the invasion began on Feb. 24. Using statistical averages from past conflicts that for every casualty roughly three soldiers are wounded, NATO analysts reach their total figure.

Russia began its invasion with roughly 190,000 troops. It has since brought in additional troops from Chechnya, Syria and other locations.


Source


Russia accidentally leaked their losses. If they were true it were almost 10k killed and 16k wounded (just russians, not auxiliary).

Also, Russians are now moving Ukrainian children out of Ukraine and into Russia on the territories they're occupying. Reason unknown.
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SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria818 Posts
March 23 2022 21:34 GMT
#1308
On March 24 2022 06:03 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2022 01:37 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
New Casualty estimates from NATO.

NATO says that up to 40,000 Russian troops have been killed, wounded, taken prisoner or are missing in Ukraine, said a senior military official from the alliance.

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization calculates the figure based on information provided by Ukrainian authorities and information obtained from Russia--both officially and unintentionally, the official said.

NATO estimates that between 7,000 and 15,000 Russian soldiers have been killed since the invasion began on Feb. 24. Using statistical averages from past conflicts that for every casualty roughly three soldiers are wounded, NATO analysts reach their total figure.

Russia began its invasion with roughly 190,000 troops. It has since brought in additional troops from Chechnya, Syria and other locations.


Source


Russia accidentally leaked their losses. If they were true it were almost 10k killed and 16k wounded (just russians, not auxiliary).

Also, Russians are now moving Ukrainian children out of Ukraine and into Russia on the territories they're occupying. Reason unknown.


I'd not be surprised if the reason is propaganda. "Oh look, they're Ukrainian and they don't approve of leadership". That or moving civillians just to bomb cities harder.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 23 2022 22:14 GMT
#1309
It's going to the US.



User was warned for this post.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8986 Posts
March 23 2022 22:15 GMT
#1310
On March 24 2022 07:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
It's going to the US.

https://twitter.com/wipljw/status/1506673602015473670

I can only imagine the rolling of heads this is causing. Quite the fuckup by Russia and quite the gain from Ukraine.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1920 Posts
March 23 2022 22:29 GMT
#1311
On March 24 2022 07:15 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2022 07:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
It's going to the US.

https://twitter.com/wipljw/status/1506673602015473670

I can only imagine the rolling of heads this is causing. Quite the fuckup by Russia and quite the gain from Ukraine.


Instant payback for that very recent US cash injection!
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
March 23 2022 22:53 GMT
#1312
On March 24 2022 07:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
It's going to the US.

https://twitter.com/wipljw/status/1506673602015473670

I’ve seen this mentioned but I don’t actually know what it does. Does anyone have any rough estimates of what the function of this is? I’ve just seen “electronic warfare” but that’s fairly vague
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-23 23:00:55
March 23 2022 23:00 GMT
#1313
On March 24 2022 07:53 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2022 07:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
It's going to the US.

https://twitter.com/wipljw/status/1506673602015473670

I’ve seen this mentioned but I don’t actually know what it does. Does anyone have any rough estimates of what the function of this is? I’ve just seen “electronic warfare” but that’s fairly vague


Most likely radar or signal jammer.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
March 23 2022 23:33 GMT
#1314
On March 24 2022 07:53 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2022 07:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
It's going to the US.

https://twitter.com/wipljw/status/1506673602015473670

I’ve seen this mentioned but I don’t actually know what it does. Does anyone have any rough estimates of what the function of this is? I’ve just seen “electronic warfare” but that’s fairly vague

Allegedly it jams: AWACS at distances of up to 250km/160 miles, GPS, radio signals, and low Earth orbit satellites. This would affect drones/UAVs and ground-based radar as well. It can even permanently damage electronics at close enough ranges it seems. It's a very nice catch for the West.
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calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
March 24 2022 03:21 GMT
#1315
There is only a picture of what looks like the command trailer though, not sure if they also got the emitter. In any case Russian EW hasn't done so well this time around so IDK how good the system actually is vs manufacturer claims.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-24 08:42:30
March 24 2022 08:41 GMT
#1316
On March 24 2022 03:24 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2022 02:30 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 23 2022 12:42 KwarK wrote:
I guess losing large amounts of hardware to the Ukrainians does make friendly fire more confusing. It could be both coming from your own artillery and decidedly unfriendly.

Check some reports about the A-10 from Afghanistan and Iraq, there was plenty of friendly fire, I wouldn't put too much into it.

Lots is very subjective. this says 7 Americans were killed by friendly fire and 34 wounded. Certainly more than you would like (0 ideal) and I think lots is fair word. But considering the stories from Ukraine, if even a quarter are true, their "lots" is lots more.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/22/american-troops-friendly-fire-iraq#:~:text=US troops killed at least,public, the war logs reveal.

It was killing UK/Afghan forces as well. Considering the technological advantage... To be fair it's not just A-10 issue but the airplane has the least of the "technological advantage". You can find few bombs dropped in the close air support here and there.

Edit> The obvious point should be that if US/UK forces in the afghanistan/iraq fighting a totally different army have friendly fire, imagine fighting an army with the same equipment...
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 24 2022 14:25 GMT
#1317
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-24 14:30:48
March 24 2022 14:29 GMT
#1318
Ukrainian forces have sunk and damaged two other Naval ships via drone. Apparently Russian media broadcasted that the ships had broken through thus Ukraine knew exactly where they were.



Lviv, Ukraine (CNN)Ukrainian armed forces said they destroyed a large Russian landing ship at the port of Berdyansk in southern Ukraine on Thursday.

The port, which had recently been occupied by Russian forces with several Russian warships in dock, was rocked by a series of heavy explosions soon after dawn.

Social media videos showed fires raging at the dockside, with a series of secondary explosions reverberating across the city.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine said they had "destroyed a large landing ship," which they named as the "Orsk" in a post on Facebook.

Several Russian ships had been unloading military equipment at Berdyansk in recent days, according to reports from the port by Russian media outlets.

The Ukrainian armed forces said that besides destroying the Orsk, two more ships were damaged.

"A 3,000-ton fuel tank was also destroyed. The fire spread to the enemy's ammunition depot. Details of the damage inflicted on the occupier are being clarified," they said.

It's not known what weapon was used to attack the port.

Analysis of videos uploaded on Thursday showed that one Russian naval vessel left the port soon after the explosions.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11519 Posts
March 24 2022 15:12 GMT
#1319
On March 24 2022 23:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Ukrainian forces have sunk and damaged two other Naval ships via drone. Apparently Russian media broadcasted that the ships had broken through thus Ukraine knew exactly where they were.

https://twitter.com/HillridgeOSINT/status/1506885949321588742

Show nested quote +
Lviv, Ukraine (CNN)Ukrainian armed forces said they destroyed a large Russian landing ship at the port of Berdyansk in southern Ukraine on Thursday.

The port, which had recently been occupied by Russian forces with several Russian warships in dock, was rocked by a series of heavy explosions soon after dawn.

Social media videos showed fires raging at the dockside, with a series of secondary explosions reverberating across the city.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine said they had "destroyed a large landing ship," which they named as the "Orsk" in a post on Facebook.

Several Russian ships had been unloading military equipment at Berdyansk in recent days, according to reports from the port by Russian media outlets.

The Ukrainian armed forces said that besides destroying the Orsk, two more ships were damaged.

"A 3,000-ton fuel tank was also destroyed. The fire spread to the enemy's ammunition depot. Details of the damage inflicted on the occupier are being clarified," they said.

It's not known what weapon was used to attack the port.

Analysis of videos uploaded on Thursday showed that one Russian naval vessel left the port soon after the explosions.


Source


As the age-old saying states: "Loose lips sink ships."

Telling all the worlds when and where your ships are in a vulnerable position does not sound like a smart thing for a defense ministry to do.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-24 15:40:00
March 24 2022 15:15 GMT
#1320
On March 24 2022 23:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Ukrainian forces have sunk and damaged two other Naval ships via drone.
There's nothing to indicate damage was done via a drone. In fact the article states "It's not known what weapon was used to attack the port." It is extremely unlikely a weapon was delivered by a drone given what we know of Ukrainian drones.

A landing ship is also a low priority target, perhaps a high priority person was on board. Even if it was being used to transport tanks, the Russians have established land control over Crimea and the Russian border to that location. Odd, but I suppose to speaks to that Russian logistics are bad enough that they need to transport vehicles by sea.
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