Russo-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 106

On April 28 2022 21:21 Ardias wrote:
The best example is aviation engines. Before 2014 Motor-Sich plant in Ukraine was the biggest supplier of engines for Russian air force, especially helicopter and cruise missile ones. In spring of 2014 this cooperation stopped, we had to develop/restore our own plants to produce those.

BRUSSELS, April 28 (Reuters) - NATO is ready to maintain its support for Ukraine in the war against Russia for years, including help for Kyiv to shift from Soviet-era weapons to modern Western arms and systems, Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said on Thursday.

He spoke after the Kremlin warned that Western arms supplies to Ukraine, including heavy weapons, posed a threat to the security of the European continent "and provoke instability". read more

"We need to be prepared for the long term," Stoltenberg told a youth summit in Brussels. "There is absolutely the possibility that this war will drag on and last for months and years."

The NATO chief said the West would continue to put maximum pressure on Russian President Vladimir Putin to end the invasion of Ukraine, which Moscow calls a "special military operation", through sanctions and economic as well as military aid to Kyiv.

"NATO allies are preparing to provide support over a long period of time and also help Ukraine to transit, move from old Soviet-era equipment to more modern NATO-standard weapons and systems that will also require more training," Stoltenberg said.

Most of the heavy weapons NATO countries have sent to Ukraine so far are Soviet-built arms still in the inventories of east European NATO member states, but the United States and some other allies have started to supply Kyiv with Western howitzers.

Germany on Tuesday announced the shipment of Gepard tanks equipped with anti-aircraft guns to Ukraine, the first time Berlin has approved heavy weapons deliveries for Kyiv. read more

Ukraine's pleas for heavy weapons have intensified since Moscow shifted its offensive to the Donbas, an eastern region with largely flat, open terrain seen as better suited for tank battles than the areas in the north around the capital Kyiv where much of the earlier fighting took place.

The $20 billion in military aid includes $5 billion in additional authority to transfer weapons and equipment to Ukraine from U.S. inventories, $6 billion for the Ukraine security assistance initiative and $4 billion for the State Department’s Foreign Military Financing program.

“The president’s funding request is what we believe is needed to enable Ukraine’s success over the next five months of this war,” an administration official told reporters on a call Wednesday. “And we have every expectation that our partners and allies … will continue to provide comparable levels of assistance going forward.”

On April 28 2022 23:01 Clouden wrote:

Russians just kept buying those through Bosnia. The Bosnian company was created 2 months before sanctions and was owned by military guys, one of whom was Russian ex-deputy chief of Air Force.
https://www.radiosvoboda.org/a/30047163.html
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On April 29 2022 01:25 Erasme wrote:
I find Russia complaining about the attacks on their soil beyond amusing.
Isn't russian gas the bigger fish compared to russian oil ?

On April 28 2022 21:13 zatic wrote:

Germany today green lit delivery of further heavy weapons including infantry fighting vehicles, tanks, and artillery to Ukraine.

As a first step Slovenia and Chechia would send their T-72s to Ukraine which would be replaced by Germany with Western equipment. This makes sense as Ukraine won't need additional training to put those tanks to use.

Germany will also train Ukrainians on Western equipment, as I understand for future deliveries.

Currently being discussed (not agreed yet) is the delivery of up to 100 Marder IFV, 88 Leopard 1 tanks, and up to 100 PzH2000 (!) to Ukraine (By delivering from Dutch and German army arsenals and backfilling from KMW, the manufacturer). Even anything close to that number would be a game changer, especially the PzH2000. Trained crews provided they would rip through Russian positions.

On April 29 2022 01:19 Ghanburighan wrote:
I propose German appreciation day for April 28th.

https://twitter.com/marceldirsus/status/1519691280116334594

On April 29 2022 05:19 Ghostcom wrote:


Not sure they are particularly deserving of appreciation for finally doing the right thing. But it is a very positive step.