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Billyboy
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ETisME
12680 Posts
Probably related to the whole Palestine Israel even since they start shooting soon after hanukkah started. Too much relentlessness hate against the Jewish community for the past few years. What a depressing world we live in. Mass export/import of hatred. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8794 Posts
On December 14 2025 18:51 ETisME wrote: Not confirmed yet but a mass shooting just happened at Bondai beach in Sydney. few deaths already. Probably related to the whole Palestine Israel even since they start shooting soon after hanukkah started. Too much relentlessness hate against the Jewish community for the past few years. What a depressing world we live in. Mass export/import of hatred. will have to see what the confirmed motive is but the hanukkah theory is truly retarded if it ends up being true. why the fuck would you open fire on the most populated tourist beach on the country because you are fed up with jews? the logic is just fucking retarded. i actually went to the beach last week for the first time in like 10 years. kind of feels surreal to me now | ||
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pmp10
3381 Posts
On December 14 2025 19:57 evilfatsh1t wrote: will have to see what the confirmed motive is but the hanukkah theory is truly retarded if it ends up being true. why the fuck would you open fire on the most populated tourist beach on the country because you are fed up with jews? the logic is just fucking retarded. In all likelihood a retaliation for the Hamas commander that Israel killed yesterday. If so, I bet they found local synagogue too well protected and picked whatever targets they could. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12386 Posts
On December 14 2025 19:57 evilfatsh1t wrote: will have to see what the confirmed motive is but the hanukkah theory is truly retarded if it ends up being true. why the fuck would you open fire on the most populated tourist beach on the country because you are fed up with jews? the logic is just fucking retarded. i actually went to the beach last week for the first time in like 10 years. kind of feels surreal to me now Targeted a jewish event that was taking place at the beach | ||
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ETisME
12680 Posts
On December 14 2025 19:57 evilfatsh1t wrote: will have to see what the confirmed motive is but the hanukkah theory is truly retarded if it ends up being true. why the fuck would you open fire on the most populated tourist beach on the country because you are fed up with jews? the logic is just fucking retarded. i actually went to the beach last week for the first time in like 10 years. kind of feels surreal to me now They probably thought it's a "close enough" event to start shooting. Apparently there's a kid amongst the casualties as well, and police just found a pipe bomb. Every week or so there's protest against Israel and shouting pretty radical stuff, they dampen it down but everyone know what they are part of, just don't know how many are extremists and how many are just normies (so to speak). There's a fire bomb incident in melb couple months ago targeting Jewish community. Let's hope it doesn't get worse. The fact that it happens in Australia, amongst all places, is even more shocking. But to some extent, I can also see why. The integration of immigrants are probably one of the lowest in many nation. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8794 Posts
On December 14 2025 20:35 ETisME wrote: They probably thought it's a "close enough" event to start shooting. Apparently there's a kid amongst the casualties as well, and police just found a pipe bomb. Every week or so there's protest against Israel and shouting pretty radical stuff, they dampen it down but everyone know what they are part of, just don't know how many are extremists and how many are just normies (so to speak). There's a fire bomb incident in melb couple months ago targeting Jewish community. Let's hope it doesn't get worse. The fact that it happens in Australia, amongst all places, is even more shocking. But to some extent, I can also see why. The integration of immigrants are probably one of the lowest in many nation. it is somewhat shocking that these incidents happen in australia, but i dont see what youre getting at with your reasoning. what do you mean integration of immigrants is low in australia? australias as multicultural as you can get. although in the past few years anti-middle east sentiment has been going up drastically. its not even strictly anti muslim or anti israel or whatever, its just anti middle east. | ||
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ETisME
12680 Posts
On December 14 2025 21:03 evilfatsh1t wrote: it is somewhat shocking that these incidents happen in australia, but i dont see what youre getting at with your reasoning. what do you mean integration of immigrants is low in australia? australias as multicultural as you can get. although in the past few years anti-middle east sentiment has been going up drastically. its not even strictly anti muslim or anti israel or whatever, its just anti middle east. Australia imo is no different than Hong Kong in that aspect. There's multiculture, but it's not integrated, it's quite segregated. Singapore on the other hand is where multiculture really blend into one singapore culture, with different characteristics. Anyways that's outside the topic. I watched some footage how one of the gunmen handles the rifle and he is definitely professionally trained if not a professional himself. The hero tackling down the gunman is also a muslim. Still shocked to see this happening in Australia, which should be far away from all the middle east drama. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4381 Posts
The shooter was investigated in 2019 by ASIO for links to an Islamic state terror cell in Sydney, which should have been the time his ability to hold a firearms license was suspended. | ||
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Ze'ev
147 Posts
Like take gays/blacks or jews, cause they all have experienced something similar in the last 10~ years: a minority of people really hate you and they can target you for mass murder. If that happens enough times -- even if the group that hates you is small as a relative percentage and the odds of you getting massacred are pretty low -- its obviously going to have a huge impact on the psychology of that community. Like, how many gay clubs get shot up before gays are terrified back into the closet, etc? How do we 'save' liberal society from this disproportionate capacity to target, kill, and therefore terrify, specific communities? | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1114 Posts
I firmly believe that more prosperous societies are there is less need for things such as religion, conspiracy, radicalization of any kind in general. Then you have social media and enormous propaganda machines on all sides pushing people to be more radical and violent, and shit like this happens, and each side chooses to interpret it their way and ascribe it to the other and it's a vicious cycle of radicalization. To me, the only thing from this fucked up situation in Australia that gives me hope is the vendor who jumped on the guy with the gun, what a hero, the pieces of shit who did this should be secondary in a just world, they wanted for the world to continue escalating, in my perfect world, we'd all focus on the guy who was an immigrant and was a Muslim and still didn't hesitate to go and put his life on the line to save people. | ||
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Ze'ev
147 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On December 16 2025 08:31 Jankisa wrote: I might be naive, but to me, the only way is to work towards a society where we are all chill, happy, fed and free of conflict. I firmly believe that more prosperous societies are there is less need for things such as religion, conspiracy, radicalization of any kind in general. Then you have social media and enormous propaganda machines on all sides pushing people to be more radical and violent, and shit like this happens, and each side chooses to interpret it their way and ascribe it to the other and it's a vicious cycle of radicalization. To me, the only thing from this fucked up situation in Australia that gives me hope is the vendor who jumped on the guy with the gun, what a hero, the pieces of shit who did this should be secondary in a just world, they wanted for the world to continue escalating, in my perfect world, we'd all focus on the guy who was an immigrant and was a Muslim and still didn't hesitate to go and put his life on the line to save people. You just need a good guy without a gun | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1114 Posts
There was another couple who went and tried to disarm the attackers, with their bare hands: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2341yx719o So many good people in this story. Seems like the attacker was a Muslim immigrant from India, he and his son apparently went to IS training camp in the Philippines a few weeks ahead of the attack: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-16/bondi-gunmen-went-to-philippines-for-military-style-training/106148662 In my opinion, as someone who has spent a lot of time arguing with people who seem to have racist, nationalist and xenophobic reasons to hate Muslims and immigrants in general, if police gets even a whiff of an immigrant having ties to organizations such as IS or their affiliates, the burden of proof should be lower than usual and they should be deported as soon as possible. I understand that there is the possibility of this being abused, but there is a happy middle ground where controls over shit like this are tightened and laws changed so people understand that fucking with this kind of rhetoric and being in contact with these evil fuck is an instant kick in the ass and out of the country you so clearly hate. | ||
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Ze'ev
147 Posts
I had no idea IS operated in the Philippines--- how is that allowed to continue? If could find out about them getting training there, how in the hell is the Philippines government not aware of it and mass arresting everyone? | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1114 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4381 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9768 Posts
On December 17 2025 05:07 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Trump announced last week all visa holders looking to enter USA must hand over 5 years worth of social media history to enter that country. Thus completing America's transition to become.... China | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1114 Posts
The problem is that countries like Israel and US use companies like Palantir to completely trample any and all privacy, they are still pretending like this surveillance state approach will be only for immigrants/Palestinians but I guarantee you that thir current governments have 0 issues abusing this technology against it's own citizens. | ||
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Ze'ev
147 Posts
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