EPTA British citizen, an Australian citizen, a dual Canadian/American citizen were among the dead.
Are they trying to piss absolutely everyone off?
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Jockmcplop
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A British citizen, an Australian citizen, a dual Canadian/American citizen were among the dead. Are they trying to piss absolutely everyone off? | ||
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JimmiC
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Nebuchad
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(At least Haaretz is saying this too) | ||
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PoulsenB
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stilt
France2749 Posts
On April 02 2024 22:31 JimmiC wrote: It reads like you are now openly supporting Hamas, am I correct? Netanyahu is taking responsibility, and you are not wrong. The last few days even before this have had larger and larger anti netanyahu protests, I expect them to grow. Read it as you want, not that I care much about a negationnist who are denying the israeli induced famine within gaza. | ||
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JimmiC
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Cerebrate1
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On April 02 2024 08:59 Magic Powers wrote: I'm not sure what the point is. Prisoners of war have rights, too. Can't just imprison suspects and let them rot. I wasn't actually addressing the claim of prisoner mistreatment because that wasn't actually the main point of Salazarz' post (merely his attempt at supporting evidence). His main point stemmed from cherry picking my words and also translating my word "certain" to mean "all." Maybe I'll address your point in a future post when I find time. | ||
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JimmiC
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Magic Powers
Austria4138 Posts
On April 03 2024 01:39 Cerebrate1 wrote: I wasn't actually addressing the claim of prisoner mistreatment because that wasn't actually the main point of Salazarz' post (merely his attempt at supporting evidence). His main point stemmed from cherry picking my words and also translating my word "certain" to mean "all." Maybe I'll address your point in a future post when I find time. Don't worry about it, I don't have a definitive position on the prisoner situation. My view is that people are too quick to judge things, whether that's accusing Israel of definitively mistreating its prisoners or assuming that mistreatment is certainly not happening. With "mistreatment" I consider anything ranging from merely failing to follow legal procedure to more serious allegations of neglect and infliction of physical harm. My view is that it should not be assumed that Israel is or is not mistreating prisoners, as either would be too presumptive at the moment. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23244 Posts
On April 03 2024 02:08 Magic Powers wrote: Don't worry about it, I don't have a definitive position on the prisoner situation. My view is that people are too quick to judge things, whether that's accusing Israel of definitively mistreating its prisoners or assuming that mistreatment is certainly not happening. With "mistreatment" I consider anything ranging from merely failing to follow legal procedure to more serious allegations of neglect and infliction of physical harm. My view is that it should not be assumed that Israel is or is not mistreating prisoners, as either would be too presumptive at the moment. There's plenty of evidence including video (taken and posted by IDF members) of them illegally abusing and humiliating POW's, which is a war crime. It should be understood that Israel is mistreating Palestinian prisoners. And while the grunts are too dense to know they're doing the quiet part loud, leadership knows they should be hiding this stuff, so they try. International Committee of the Red Cross (I.C.R.C.) has been banned from visiting all Israeli prisons since October 7th. We also know—through evidence that P.C.A.T.I. and other N.G.O.s have collected—of what we view as systemic abuse and violence by prison guards toward Palestinian detainees since October 7th. We’ve documented nineteen different incidents of torture and abuse in seven different Israel Prison Service (I.P.S.) facilities by different I.P.S. units, all of which have led us to believe that we’re looking at a policy rather than just isolated incidents. www.newyorker.com | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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JimmiC
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Acrofales
Spain18002 Posts
On April 03 2024 03:19 JimmiC wrote: What do you mean to the "right" of Trump? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/6/trumps-talk-on-gaza-highlights-stark-choice-for-voters-in-us-election edit: Biden reaction. I don't think "to the right" is fair, but it's 6 of one to half a dozen of the other, at this point. Biden sure *sounds* outraged, but actions speak louder than words and his actions have been to unequivocally stuff his nose further up Bibi's ass. | ||
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stilt
France2749 Posts
On April 03 2024 01:11 JimmiC wrote: Feel free to try to find that quote, clearly Hamas and Israel being at war is creating a famine. Glad to see your taking the mask off, not that it was very disguising. As expected of a negationnist, you easely forget : On March 04 2024 06:29 stilt wrote: Show nested quote + It doesn't change the fact the famine is due to israeli blocus which include bombing and shoting at trucks while blocking it during inspection according to humanitarians which operate there. Humanitarians which israeli successfully villified to the point the support from western country ceased. There is only one responsible of this famine, negationism is bad. On March 04 2024 06:34 JimmiC wrote: Show nested quote + Most of the aid is coming through Egypt and is being stopped because the Egyptians don't want to die or have their trucks destroyed by Hamas and the other gangs they control. Why do you keep ignoring the reality of the situation? All this info is everywhere including this thread. Most of the aid is coming through Egypt and is being stopped because the Egyptians don't want to die or have their trucks destroyed by Hamas and the other gangs they control. Why do you keep ignoring the reality of the situation? All this info is everywhere including this thread. This discussion will lead to poor me trying to convice you with the numerous facts at my disposal and you denying over and over the israeli induced famine. You end up concluding by this analogy : "if america wipes off north korea, this is not a genocide" which in the actual situation is the validation of this slaughter. Yes, jimmyc, negationnist is a good term to describe you as you're doing your best to cover their crimes while deliberatly ignoring facts giving by the journalists from un and ngo. Which leads me to the question, why are you supporting israel so much ? You always question our motives but yours ? What are they ? | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9122 Posts
On April 03 2024 04:41 JimmiC wrote: I’m not sure I follow? I feel like there is a wide gulf between up someone’s ass and not completely cutting off Israel. Was anything cut off though? No serious person is asking him to stop helping Israel with stocks for the missile shield or with deterrence against Hezbollah & friends, but refusing to send Israel bombs, artillery shells and tank ammunition is the bare minimum that he should have done many months ago. | ||
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JimmiC
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GreenHorizons
United States23244 Posts
Anera, a Washington-based aid group that has been operating in the Palestinian territories for decades, said that in the wake of the strikes it was taking the “unprecedented” step of pausing its own operations in Gaza, where it had been helping to provide around 150,000 meals daily. “The escalating risks associated with aid delivery leave us with no choice,” it said in a statement. Jamie McGoldrick, the United Nations humanitarian coordinator for the Palestinian territories, said the strikes were “not an isolated incident.” The U.N. says more than 180 humanitarian workers have been killed in the war. “This is nearly three times the death toll recorded in any single conflict in a year,” he said. Two other Israeli strikes late Monday killed at least 16 Palestinians, including eight children, in Rafah, where Israel has vowed to expand its ground operation despite the presence of some 1.4 million Palestinians, most of whom have sought refuge from fighting elsewhere. One strike hit a family home, killing 10 people, including five children, according to hospital records. Another hit a gathering near a mosque, killing at least six people, including three children. apnews.com | ||
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