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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On February 11 2024 06:59 Gorsameth wrote: They don't need to spy against Hamas, it would be not allowing Hamas to use their headquarters as a data center. And yes there is a chance Hamas would not have allowed them to stay if they said no. So they said yes, and now there will be no UNRWA is Gaza. That's assuming the employees at UNRWA had insight into what specifically Hamas was doing down there. They have a network of tunnels across Gaza, so this one instance would be just another friday. The UNRWA may not have had any specific incentive to snoop around and figure out what's going on, as that would mean they would have to do the same in all other places where Hamas has established itself. Angering Hamas by asking too many questions wouldn't go well. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26036 Posts
On February 11 2024 07:45 Magic Powers wrote: That's assuming the employees at UNRWA had insight into what specifically Hamas was doing down there. They have a network of tunnels across Gaza, so this one instance would be just another friday. The UNRWA may not have had any specific incentive to snoop around and figure out what's going on, as that would mean they would have to do the same in all other places where Hamas has established itself. Angering Hamas by asking too many questions wouldn't go well. To a point in general, in this case given there were apparently cables running down into the tunnels from above, seems dubious. It’s one thing Hamas doing their tunnel thing and not asking too many questions, another if your infrastructure is actually linked in such a manner | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On February 11 2024 07:45 Magic Powers wrote: That's assuming the employees at UNRWA had insight into what specifically Hamas was doing down there. They have a network of tunnels across Gaza, so this one instance would be just another friday. The UNRWA may not have had any specific incentive to snoop around and figure out what's going on, as that would mean they would have to do the same in all other places where Hamas has established itself. Angering Hamas by asking too many questions wouldn't go well. you think they had no idea? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On February 11 2024 11:12 WombaT wrote: To a point in general, in this case given there were apparently cables running down into the tunnels from above, seems dubious. It’s one thing Hamas doing their tunnel thing and not asking too many questions, another if your infrastructure is actually linked in such a manner oh shit :D :D | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Cerebrate1
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On February 12 2024 03:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So Israel seems to want to destroy the remnants of Hamas left in Rafah. That seems to be the sticking point for the US, Egypt and France with all those civilians trapped there. https://twitter.com/JoeTruzman/status/1756740472553504786 Na, Egypt would be quite happy if Israel eliminated Hamas. What they are terrified of is Gazans pouring over the border and starting all kinds of unrest in Egypt. That's why all their efforts recently have been about building up the border wall with Gaza bigger, deeper, and with more barbed wire. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-02-09/egypt-steps-up-security-on-border-as-israeli-offensive-in-gaza-nears Since the war between Israel and Hamas erupted on Oct. 7, Egypt constructed a concrete border wall that reaches six metres into the ground and is topped with barbed wire. It has also built berms and enhanced surveillance at border posts, the security sources said. Later pictures, which the group said were taken in early February, appear to show three vertical layers of coiled barbed wire being installed on top of the wall. Satellite images from January and December also show some new constructions along the 13 km (8 mile) border close to Rafah and the extension of a wall to the sea's edge at its northern end. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12340 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23469 Posts
On February 12 2024 09:56 Nebuchad wrote: Really unlucky for Israel that they once again have to airstrike the place where they've made Gazans go, clearly it's the only way to eliminate Hamas and that's their goal, but to the untrained eye of the masses it's going to look like they're just targeting civilians again. Where the hell are the 1,000,000+ Refugees supposed to go?? | ||
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zeo
Serbia6306 Posts
On February 12 2024 14:15 GreenHorizons wrote: Where the hell are the 1,000,000+ Refugees supposed to go?? I honestly thought that that was someone being mockingly cynical. But you read the name and realise it was an actual serious post... | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12340 Posts
On February 12 2024 17:17 zeo wrote: I honestly thought that that was someone being mockingly cynical. But you read the name and realise it was an actual serious post... Yikes who are you confusing me with? | ||
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zeo
Serbia6306 Posts
Oh shit sorry I mixed you up with Nezgar, that guy gives me the creeps. Yeah, you probably were being cynical / not serious with your post, my appologies | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On February 12 2024 14:15 GreenHorizons wrote: Where the hell are the 1,000,000+ Refugees supposed to go?? They should stop playing human shield for Hamas obviously. Their fault if they don't move to Canada. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6252 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26036 Posts
On February 13 2024 07:18 JimmiC wrote: I think because Hamas had claimed that Rafah was only home to refugees and no terrorist elements. They have also said that Israel using their military their will cause them to not participate in a ceasefire. But when you kill some terrorists and rescue hostages there is hard proof that in fact the area is being used by the terrorists and not just to govern or plan. Also, the IDF have been losing support for the war because of all the civilian deaths, the IDF deaths and no success getting the hostages back. With success freeing some by force some people will want the IDF to continue that were wanting a ceasefire a week ago. Surely that’s a case of civilian deaths versus no results versus civilian deaths with results? I’m not sure how high civilian deaths in isolation are weighted really, outside of the Israeli left which somewhat innately opposes them anyway. If support fluctuates spending on freeing a couple of hundred hostages in and around 10000+ civilian deaths, it’s not the civilian deaths that are concerning people. | ||
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