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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28743 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Dou you know what sarcasm is? I think Israel is one of the most powerful nations in the world but most likely not the most powerful nation. I am sorry that I didnt check when I last posted and thus was off by a couple of days. Deary me.. also how funny is "I am going to quote you but hey listen mate.. dont you dare reply to me plz" Entitlement is strong with this one. W T F @Drone: He threw ad hominems at me too and the PMs werent nice on either end. So I find it a bit disturbing that he plays the victim and feels the need to even bring that up.. whilst also simply concealing the reason why I PMed him.. all just to make me look bad and to fit his narrative.. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28743 Posts
Not really sure that's part of why the US is supportive of Israel though, but it's coherent and not conspiratorial or anti-jew. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Just reread it please. You also take the time to post our PMs instead of simply answering why u equate USA = Jews in your response. It is classic you ever since I started engaging with you in this topic. You simply do not respond. You quote and quoted a lot but maybe 1 in 3 times at best actually respond to the points raised. Well that is a statement in itself isnt it? Regarding your "presuming it was Israel". I misread/misinterpreted that. But without any hesitation I stand by my statement that Israel is one of the most powerful nations in the world. Also it is not awful (or antisemitic) to realize that Israel and USA are extremely closely entwined. It is a fact. I literally gave lectures about that topic more than a decade ago at university.. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On December 02 2023 06:35 JimmiC wrote: That is what the other guy wrote: "Isreal should never have existed, same as the USA, Australia or various South American states. Now they have nuclear power, we can only hope they stay instead of disappearing with a bang. I reiterate, despite they're atrocious treatment of Palestians, they're decent towards their citizens from Palestinians origin. I was onl responding to that new account which started with that war, which stated wars were only initiated by Arab states when it's clearly not the case. Imo if the most powerful nation in the world right now did not steal land to establish itself, it would have been resolved already" You replied: It is strange because most of your post seem fairly civil but you included an anecdote in one about why Jews are bad and now you have the bolded short form of history which is to put it politely very one sided and completely missing context and nuance. I thought your point about Jews was in regards to the statement you bolded. Which is why I didnt understand it. You didnt mean that apparently? It is a bit bewildering to me how much you seem to thrive on playing the victim. Ofc things got heated but I can apologize and did so already several times for misunderstanding things. Meanwhile you play the victim. Pathetic. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
I think PhiL correctly points out that we've been going back and forth for a while and it seems we're no longer making progress, so I want to let it stand at your last comment. I do however find those surveys you posted very insightful. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmiC
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On December 02 2023 08:45 JimmiC wrote: So stop budding in and insulting me with your made up garbage. Your apologies are meaningless because its hours later when you are insulting me again. Yes of course you misread it, it is what you do. I'm not sure how much clearer I can be, stop naming me in your posts, your "interpretations' of me are so bad they can only be taken as purposeful insults. Excuse me? You are extremely clear. This isnt how this works though. You can not simply demand things. I am honestly flabbergasted at the entitlement you are showing. This mixture of playing the victim and at the same time demanding what I need/have to do in this topic is just absurd. Can you please get a grip? It is completely okay if you dislike me and/or are butthurt that i lashed out several times. But stating that you are the victim & at the same time demanding of me to do what you want me to do is almost a bit bizarre isnt it? I am willing to give it one last try and I promise to do my best to not engage with you again, if you would be so kind to answer me one last question without evading. What precisely do you mean by this: On November 02 2023 06:32 JimmiC wrote: ..It is however a long term antisemitic trope to call Israel out for genocide and ethnic cleansing... | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
@ Cerebrate re: the worst that might happen is some houses get built https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_demolition_of_Palestinian_property Clearly, the worst that might happen (and is already happening) is quite a bit worse than 'some houses getting built.' | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
Similar to Acrofales' posts about his municipality passing resolutions on the Middle East, the city of Oakland had their own resolution on ceasefire. Someone made a nice compilation from the public comments of people defending Hamas, calling criticism of Hamas anti-Arab racism, and suggesting that Hamas slaughtering people is a made up narrative. + Show Spoiler + Now it appears that there is a group of Oakland schoolteachers and activists that is encouraging educators to abandon the district-recommended curriculum and instead teach their students about the Palestinian struggle. The lesson plans made available to teachers in a Google document for the Wednesday teach-in included a Palestinian-themed alphabet book for transitional kindergarten through third-grade students, with the letter I representing “intifada,” a word historically connected to the armed uprisings by Palestinians against Israeli occupation and control of disputed land. Another lesson for the early elementary grades encouraged students to identify what they “will chant at a Palestine protest.” Imagine teaching kindergarteners that A is for apple.. I is for intifada.. lmao. Every time I read the local news I have to double check to make sure I'm not on The Onion. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6266 Posts
Ra’am chairman MK Mansour Abbas becomes the first Arab party leader in Israel’s history to publicly call on the armed Palestinian factions to demilitarize and work with the Palestinian Authority in order to establish a Palestinian state through non-violent means. “In order to move forward, the Palestinian militant groups need to throw down their arms. They need to work hand in hand with the Palestinian Authority in order to realize a national movement that will aspire for a state of Palestine in a peaceful solution alongside the state of Israel,” Abbas tells CNN in a rare interview with international media. Abbas, whose Islamist Ra’am party was the first independent Arab-majority faction to join an Israeli coalition — the 2021-22 Naftali Bennett-Yair Lapid government — begins the interview by reiterating his condemnation of the October 7 massacres. “Any action that is taken against innocent people — against women, children, elderly — is inhumane and it goes against the values of Islam as well. We categorically condemn this. This cannot be discussed or cannot be justified because it goes against all human values and religious values as well,” he says. “But at the same time, we cannot forget that there is a political struggle that is happening,” Abbas continues. “But the actions that the armed groups have decided to take and to use violence in order to achieve their means looking at the past have always failed. The victim of each and every one of those militant attempts have been the Palestinian people who were the ones who paid the price. In this current conflict, we look at the number of people killed we’re talking about over 15,000 Palestinians who lost their lives,” he laments. www.timesofisrael.com | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
Oh the irony and complete lack of self-awareness by this man. I have nothing else to say. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12391 Posts
On December 02 2023 19:04 Magic Powers wrote: “Any action that is taken against innocent people — against women, children, elderly — is inhumane and it goes against the values of Islam as well. We categorically condemn this. This cannot be discussed or cannot be justified because it goes against all human values and religious values as well,” he says. Oh the irony and complete lack of self-awareness by this man. I have nothing else to say. How so? | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
He's an Israeli born and raised. He's not a leader of Palestinians. His allegiance is to the State of Israel. Of course he'd be expected to condemn Hamas, but not any of the Israeli extremists who are responsible for the death of so many people in this conflict. | ||
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